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Psychosis hsv
08 Apr 2006, 09:05 AM
first was
1. woerns
2.kahn

next will be
mertersacker
huth
friedrich

things are getting better daily, go klinsmann don't be afraid of anybody

the first 2 is right because they are old.

the next 3 it will be right because they are not good

Natrium
08 Apr 2006, 09:28 AM
I would hope for the skillfree Kuranyi and Asamoah to be his next victims, but Klinsmann sadly seems to fancy them.

Zwanzigoetzel
08 Apr 2006, 12:48 PM
first was
1. woerns
2.kahn

next will be
mertersacker
huth
friedrich

things are getting better daily, go klinsmann don't be afraid of anybody

the first 2 is right because they are old.

the next 3 it will be right because they are not good

Sorry, but to take out Woerns was not a performance based decision. It was because of personal differences. Because of age? What does that have to do with it? Lehmann is 36 also, in addition Woerns has been one of the best German defensive players of the BL season!!!! In fact a little bit of age and experience is exactly what the team is MISSING! That's why I believe for examle Scholl should have been nominated for the team a long time ago.

I certainly DO agree that Huth and Friedrich should go. Huth, since he simply SUCKS and doesn't get any playing time in Chelsea and Friedrich, who has been weak in the BL as well. Mertesacker is one of the better defensive players we have and he should stay on.

Psychosis hsv
08 Apr 2006, 01:04 PM
woerns was dropped for personal reasons yes. but he was still dropped, he is a good palyer and would have preferd him partnered with Reinhardt in Germany's defence
the purpose of the thread is to post those players you think klinsmann will drop

Zwanzigoetzel
08 Apr 2006, 01:41 PM
woerns was dropped for personal reasons yes.[/B]

Well, that's not what you said in your first post and why I respectfully disagreed. That's all....

Plus there is a difference between who will he still or who he should have dropped a long time ago.

Should have: Huth, Friedrich,Assamoah, Schneider, Kuranyi.

Will drop: Nobody, due to lack of alternatives and the little time left to the WC.

Now he should work with what he has got and make sure that they will be at their peak performance for the WC!

"Eisenfuß" Eilts
08 Apr 2006, 02:11 PM
What do you have with Bastian Reinhardt?

He made only 100 minutes in 2006 for HSV.
He´s a total substitute player at Hamburg
and Hamburg plans to let him leave at end of season.
He never proven himself on international level,
he´s a total questionmark.

From Hamburg there i see Trochowski and Lauth
as candidates, but definetely not Reinhardt.

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Friedrich will stay in the national team, there is no question behind him,
i know, he´s not world-class, but do you know
a better German right defender?

ForeverRed
08 Apr 2006, 02:48 PM
Klinsman is not dropping Huth...if anything, Robert is Jurgen's sweetheart....

Who knows who the next victim will be.....

Duncan Idaho
08 Apr 2006, 03:08 PM
The next victim will be Klinsmann and his boy club (Bierhoff, Löw, Köpke) ;)
Or do most of you really think that the German NT can meet the expectations of the whole german nation? I can't, and considering the fact the Klinsmann was mostly like an elefant in a porcelain shop in doing the things he wanted to do. Even when some things were undoubtedly good, he simply crushed too much porcelain and made himself to many enemies, who will all come out at the first sign of failure in the World Cup and will try to sack him! Sure, there is still the chance that the NT can meet the expectations somehow, but that's quite unrealistic if you ask me.

ForeverRed
08 Apr 2006, 05:18 PM
The next victim will be Klinsmann and his boy club (Bierhoff, Löw, Köpke) ;)
Or do most of you really think that the German NT can meet the expectations of the whole german nation? I can't, and considering the fact the Klinsmann was mostly like an elefant in a porcelain shop in doing the things he wanted to do. Even when some things were undoubtedly good, he simply crushed too much porcelain and made himself to many enemies, who will all come out at the first sign of failure in the World Cup and will try to sack him! Sure, there is still the chance that the NT can meet the expectations somehow, but that's quite unrealistic if you ask me.

He won't, expectations are too high anyways. I was going to say he will be the victim himself but I don't want to be too pessimistic here..

Duncan Idaho
08 Apr 2006, 05:40 PM
I wouldn't call it pessimistic, I think it's just a realistic view on the WC aftermath

BerlinWall
08 Apr 2006, 07:55 PM
@ Vertical Horizon:

you think, friedrich is not good enough? ok.
but who would be the right player for WC'06 on the position?

hinkel? ... haha
owomoyela? ... haha haha

there's no choice

Psychosis hsv
09 Apr 2006, 10:16 AM
Hinkel is better ask vfb fans, and

i would like to see mertersacker out.

Reinhardt is better than mertersacker and so many players in klinsi squad

Huth will not be dropped because he is funny , the way he clears everything that comes in his way

The Old Lady Hertha
10 Apr 2006, 12:52 AM
Hinkel is better ask vfb fans, and

i would like to see mertersacker out.

Reinhardt is better than mertersacker and so many players in klinsi squad

Huth will not be dropped because he is funny , the way he clears everything that comes in his way

I don't think many VfB fans consider Hinkel better than Friedrich.

The best soultion at RB....switch Lahm to RB and have Malik Fathi play LB

Psychosis hsv
10 Apr 2006, 11:02 AM
I don't think many VfB fans consider Hinkel better than Friedrich.

The best soultion at RB....switch Lahm to RB and have Malik Fathi play LB
how about Jansen?
many vfb fans i have talked to have said Hinkel is regaining his form

The Exchanger
10 Apr 2006, 05:10 PM
Well.. Its sad to see Oliver Kahn sitting on the bench in WC2006.. and its sad to see an experienced defender like Worns left out of the squad..

I hope the next victim is Kuranyi cause he is terrible infront of goal and wastes a lot of good chances ..

Also, I hope to see Asamoah, Ernst, Huth, Schneider and Owomoyeela dropped from the squad..

I'm affraid Benny Lauth is a new victim..

"Eisenfuß" Eilts
10 Apr 2006, 05:20 PM
Fathi is a good talent for left back position,
sometimes he will play NT,
but IMHO Klinsi should name Jansen,
he is a good left back and he is better in offense than Fathi.

The Old Lady Hertha
10 Apr 2006, 05:25 PM
Fathi is a good talent for left back position,
sometimes he will play NT,
but IMHO Klinsi should name Jansen,
he is a good left back and he is better in offense than Fathi.

But you need balance IMHO....
Defensively, Fathi is much better and thats what this team needs, a good defender. I actually, like Jaison has said, want him to play up, maybe as backup for Schweinsteiger, or have Piggy play right and Jansen play left.

ohk4
10 Apr 2006, 06:28 PM
Well.. Its sad to see Oliver Kahn sitting on the bench in WC2006.. and its sad to see an experienced defender like Worns left out of the squad..

please define sad.

I hope the next victim is Kuranyi cause he is terrible infront of goal and wastes a lot of good chances ..

Also, I hope to see Asamoah, Ernst, Huth, Schneider and Owomoyeela dropped from the squad..

who will you replace these players with?


I'm affraid Benny Lauth is a new victim..

you have be part of the team to be a victim. Benny Lauth has never played for Klinsmann.

Psychosis hsv
11 Apr 2006, 01:27 PM
Well.. Its sad to see Oliver Kahn sitting on the bench in WC2006.. and its sad to see an experienced defender like Worns left out of the squad..

I hope the next victim is Kuranyi cause he is terrible infront of goal and wastes a lot of good chances ..

Also, I hope to see Asamoah, Ernst, Huth, Schneider and Owomoyeela dropped from the squad..

I'm affraid Benny Lauth is a new victim..
concerning kahn and woenrs , germany has to move forward and the young stars must be given a chance. woerns at times is clumsy. like the redcard against croatia in 1998, i was 13 but can still remeber.

asomoah is very bad and lacks ideas on when to release the ball whether to pass it or shot and gets himself tangled up

ernst -poor distributor of the ball
scneider - was good and may be his time is up
owomoyela i gree should be dropped

but mertersacker should also be dropeed,-he has slow motion legs and marks spaces

arne friedrich runs as though he is carrying a 50 kg load and shopuld be dropped.

i agree with you exchanger

poorvi
11 Apr 2006, 01:31 PM
Hitzlsperger should be dropped. So should Kuranyi and Huth. But I don't think that will happen.