View Full Version : Referee Marking 10 yards w/paint
ctsoccer13
07 Apr 2006, 10:08 AM
I was watching a game from Brazil this past weekend when I saw a referee use what appeared to be spray paint to mark the 10 yards from the free kick spot. This was the first time I had seen this. Is this becoming a standard or just a trial thing?
bluedevils
07 Apr 2006, 12:02 PM
as an American referee, I've never heard of anything like this. Did the ref pull the container from his pocket or what?
IASocFan
07 Apr 2006, 12:05 PM
Brasil has been experimenting with this procedure for several years.
I think it's been fairly successful.
DerbyRam54
07 Apr 2006, 12:06 PM
I think we've had a thread on this before. Apparently the referee has a small spray can of some sort of paint which he can use to mark the distance. The paint evaporates or fades very quickly, so you don't end up with a lot of extraneous markings on the pitch. Presumably this idea works OK for Brazil.
Law5
07 Apr 2006, 12:08 PM
I think we've had a thread on this before. Apparently the referee has a small spray can of some sort of paint which he can use to mark the distance. The paint evaporates or fades very quickly, so you don't end up with a lot of extraneous markings on the pitch. Presumably this idea works OK for Brazil.
I am told that this is actually foam rather than paint.
denver_mugwamp
07 Apr 2006, 12:11 PM
It doesn't appear to be paint--more like a foam that's gone in a short while. I love the system because there's none of crap with the players setting up 5 yards away and having to be moved back. The ref marks the ball and a line for the wall and the players immediately take their places. It really, really speeds the game up.
Screw the foam. Just give me a can of mace and I'll have them back ten yards in no time flat. :)
Chas (Psyatika)
07 Apr 2006, 01:08 PM
NSA Gold :)
I like the foam idea...i actually thought about some kind of evapourating paint for the ten yard marking when i was about 13 years old, but of course i was too young to do anything about it then. Glad to see it being used somewhere. How big is the canister?
ctsoccer13
07 Apr 2006, 03:29 PM
I didn't get a great look at it, just able to see that his hand was able to go around it entirely. I thought it was a great idea, and that's coming from a player's point of view.
From soccer-europe.com. Feb. 2001:Brazil Fixes The Problem Of The 'Moving Walls'
An inventor from S�o Paulo seems to have created the definitive solution to
avoid players standing too close to the ball in free kicks. It's a white
foam spray that the referee uses to mark the place where the ball should be
put in the free kick (drawing a circle on the grass) and the place were the
defensive wall should stand (drawing a line on the grass). With those
clearly visible marks, it becomes impossible for the players to approach the
ball. After about 2 minutes, the white foam vanishes without doing any
damage to the pitch. This new invention is in use in the S�o Paulo State
Championship and has showed 100% efficiency.
IIRC, the cans were not much bigger than the typical mace spray. ;) Figure half the diameter, half the height, of a regular aerosol can. I think they had a little holster for it.
bigsoccer, 10/2002 (http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=336796&postcount=4)
From Guardian Unlimited:WHITE LINES ... GO AWAY
"While watching Brazilian league football, it appeared that once the referee had set the wall for a free-kick, he took out an aerosol and sprayed a line on the pitch, presumably so that the defending team could not cross it until the kick had been taken," writes Billy Stewart. "Can anyone confirm this is true?"
We can, Billy. It transpires that Brazilian football fan and chemist Heine Allemagne is to thank for inventing a high-tech spray in 2000. The referees carry a small aerosol can - or one is brought out to them - so that whenever a defensive wall needs to be formed near the penalty area, they can spray the foam and mark out the 10 yards that players must retreat. As if by magic, the dye evaporates from the grass within 60 seconds, because, as Rio resident José Sette explains, "it is a white water-based foam that is non-toxic, odourless, and does not affect the ozone layer." Phew! And what's more "it is composed of mineralised water, coconut by-products, additives and a propellent gas."
It was first used in the São Paulo State Championship in 2001, with the Brazilian Football Confederation and state federations then extending its usage around the country. But despite proving a highly effective tool in upholding the rules of the game, Fifa remains unconvinced as to its necessity and is yet to take the idea worldwide.
And the original bigsoccer post-crash paint thread (http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13266&)
Statesman
07 Apr 2006, 03:44 PM
A friend of mine is actually working on engineering a "pen" with super-compressed liquid that when combined creates the evaporating foam effect as it ejects from the tip. The pen itself would contain about 2 games worth of liquid. To refill you purchase a quart or so of the condensed liquids, clip the pen onto the pressurized container, which then injects the liquid into the pen. The biggest problem right now is the reliability of the mechanisms inside the pen, but hopefully his team will work that out and we'll start seeing this technique used at all levels of the game.
jacathcart
07 Apr 2006, 04:09 PM
Screw the foam. Just give me a can of mace and I'll have them back ten yards in no time flat. :)
ROTFL!!!!!!
Chas (Psyatika)
07 Apr 2006, 06:54 PM
A friend of mine is actually working on engineering a "pen" with super-compressed liquid that when combined creates the evaporating foam effect as it ejects from the tip. The pen itself would contain about 2 games worth of liquid. To refill you purchase a quart or so of the condensed liquids, clip the pen onto the pressurized container, which then injects the liquid into the pen. The biggest problem right now is the reliability of the mechanisms inside the pen, but hopefully his team will work that out and we'll start seeing this technique used at all levels of the game.Oh dear...i can see it now...a supercompressed, super explosion in the referee's front pocket :D
Even worse, what will the players think if the pen explodes in his back pocket?
Oh dear...i can see it now...a supercompressed, super explosion in the referee's front pocket :D
Even worse, what will the players think if the pen explodes in his back pocket?You have given out too much Reputation in the last 24 hours, try again later.
If it ain't gone in two minutes ...
sandaroo
08 Apr 2006, 12:19 AM
oh you silly boys... ;)
I like the idea of mace...I could use it for enforcing the required distance or on the over friendly male assessors :rolleyes: