Official Chinese Abroad Thread, 2005 - 2006 Edition [R] (Part IV)

[Txtriathlete]

Continued from
http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=288289&page=32

[The Old Lady Hertha]

Looks like Tex has stuck his head out....

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[chinesefootballfan]

Looks like Tex has stuck his head out....

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same here

[chengb02]

Li Tie could still play in Europe, in a lower English division or a lesser Euro league, but there is no present market for him. He didn't play in a single top flight match this season and most teams will view him as a huge risk. He is lucky, though, because he has an MNT coach who adores him (considering they've been together since he was 12 or so) and so he can take a risk on staying in Europe and not getting the minutes without worrying he'll be dropped from the MNT lineup. As long as Zhu's the coach, there will be a spot for Li Tie.

If he did come back to China, I think CFF's assessment is way off. Beijing would have no problem putting together a decent package for him. I'm not sure how much interest Dalia would have in him, but they could sign him. It wouldn't be easy for Shenyang, especially if a bidding war would start, but I could imagine them digging up the money to sign their native son, it would be a way to get butts in the stadium and drum up excitement. LiaoZu can't hold onto players once they reach the age 22 or so, but if Benshan gives up all his money from his next tv show or movie, then maybe they could buy him, but that's not really a reality. In Shandong he can hook up with his old friend Dayu and Zheng Zhi...

At this point its sad, if he were to come back, I don't think it would be as hotly contested as Datou's preseason move. How different their careers have been since they both signed on at Everton...

[xfactor857]

Li Tie could still play in Europe, in a lower English division or a lesser Euro league, but there is no present market for him. He didn't play in a single top flight match this season and most teams will view him as a huge risk. He is lucky, though, because he has an MNT coach who adores him (considering they've been together since he was 12 or so) and so he can take a risk on staying in Europe and not getting the minutes without worrying he'll be dropped from the MNT lineup. As long as Zhu's the coach, there will be a spot for Li Tie...

At this point its sad, if he were to come back, I don't think it would be as hotly contested as Datou's preseason move. How different their careers have been since they both signed on at Everton...You're first point should have had fired Zhu Guanghu already.

And I don't see how the two careers have diverged that much. A CSL championship can't be viewd as an great achievement if you're an ambitious, "talented" Chinese international. Being a captain is in name only if no one respects you. Plus, a few more red cards and Li Weifeng will start to achieve Li Yi's level of national infamy.

[ForzaGrifo]

And I don't see how the two careers have diverged that much. A CSL championship can't be viewd as an great achievement if you're an ambitious, "talented" Chinese international. Being a captain is in name only if no one respects you. Plus, a few more red cards and Li Weifeng will start to achieve Li Yi's level of national infamy.

I agree. Li Weifeng's name in China isn't a lot more respected than Li Yi's. The CSL as a whole isn't highly regarded. I think some, like I, repect Li Tie more so than Li Weifeng, just because Li Tie is in Everton.

Anyhow, any news of new Chinese players going abroad as the Euro season is coming to an end and new season about to start?

[chengb02]

I agree. Li Weifeng's name in China isn't a lot more respected than Li Yi's. The CSL as a whole isn't highly regarded. I think some, like I, repect Li Tie more so than Li Weifeng, just because Li Tie is in Everton.

Anyhow, any news of new Chinese players going abroad as the Euro season is coming to an end and new season about to start?

Which is sort of the point I've got at in the past, too long abroad and so too disconnected from the actual thinking in China. Li Tie has done nothing at Everton in 2 years, in the meantime, Datou has led his team to the Chinese title and a ACL semifinal(?) and he's led China to the AC Final.

[chengb02]

Anyhow, any news of new Chinese players going abroad as the Euro season is coming to an end and new season about to start?

As for this question, we're a long way before discussing this. If some Chinese players really do well in the next few months, perhaps they can get a look at from a Euro club, but with this being a World Cup summer, I highly doubt you will see much interest shown in Chinese players.

[xfactor857]

Which is sort of the point I've got at in the past, too long abroad and so too disconnected from the actual thinking in China. Li Tie has done nothing at Everton in 2 years, in the meantime, Datou has led his team to the Chinese title and a ACL semifinal(?) and he's led China to the AC Final.A CSL title isn't viewed with much respect as an individual achievement. Going abroad is. I think of the title as being more of a team thing.

He marshalled the backline well in the AC. That's about it. Ever since then it's been downhill for him in the eyes of any non-Shenzhen, Chinese football fan (minus chengb02).

[seb_perpignan]

woaw i just read this is for the toulon preparation Jia Xiuquan's squad:

Goalkeepers: Wang Dalei, Guan Zhen, Yang Qipeng

Defenders: Liu Yu, Tan Wangsong, Feng Xiaoting, Liu Jianye, Zhao Ming, Wang Hongliang, Yuan Weiwei, Zheng Tao, Yang Shanping

Midfielders: Chen Tao :eek:, Hao Junmin, Cui Peng, Zhao Xuri, Zhou Haibin, Shen Longyuan, Wang Lin, Lu Lin, Wang Shouting, Zhang Ke, Huang Bowen, Yu Hai, Dai Lin, Yu Hanchao, Zhang Wenzhao

Strikers: Wang Yongpo, Mao Biao, Gao Lin :eek:, Jiang Ning, Dong Fangzhuo:eek: , Zhu Ting, Yang Xu, Mao Jianqing

im gonna see them for real !!!!!!!!!!! i need to find a china team jersey before the tournament for make them sign it !!!!!!!!!!

[chinesefootballfan]

woaw i just read this is for the toulon preparation

im gonna see them for real !!!!!!!!!!! i need to find a china team jersey before the tournament for make them sign it !!!!!!!!!!

The sad thing is, you need to go to foriegn websites to order one. It's almost impossible to find an authentic one in China. This is so ironic.

[xfactor857]

woaw i just read this is for the toulon preparation

im gonna see them for real !!!!!!!!!!! i need to find a china team jersey before the tournament for make them sign it !!!!!!!!!!Photographs and autographs please! :)

[xfactor857]

A clear club vs. country row will occur between Antwerp/Manchester United and China regarding this Toulon Cup. Dong Fangzhuo's last club match is on May 7th. Afterwords, Antwerp (hopefully) will be engaged in a four team promotion playoffs.

[ForzaGrifo]

The sad thing is, you need to go to foriegn websites to order one. It's almost impossible to find an authentic one in China. This is so ironic.

man that's sad.

[chengb02]

The sad thing is, you need to go to foriegn websites to order one. It's almost impossible to find an authentic one in China. This is so ironic.

While I can't speak for most areas right now, in Beijing and Shanghai it is NOT hard to find an authentic Chinese national team jersey.

[seb_perpignan]

While I can't speak for most areas right now, in Beijing and Shanghai it is NOT hard to find an authentic Chinese national team jersey.

i think even if i can't find online maybe they will sell it during the tournament

anyway im gonna take pics of course a lot of pics and im gonna try to get the max autograph i can !!!!! and im supose to go to st etienne for the match against france on 7 june is just 250 km from where i work so a piece of cake

[xfactor857]

i think even if i can't find online maybe they will sell it during the tournament

anyway im gonna take pics of course a lot of pics and im gonna try to get the max autograph i can !!!!! and im supose to go to st etienne for the match against france on 7 june is just 250 km from where i work so a piece of cakeIt's easy to find online. :)

Subsidesports (http://www.subsidesports.com/uk/store/product_list.jsp?id=50) is a UK-based option, with prices starting at €18.50! :)

[xfactor857]

http://skysports.planetfootball.com/images/players/11675.jpg...SUN JIHAI MATCH UPDATE...http://skysports.planetfootball.com/images/badges/100x100/43.gif

04.08.06 - Did not dress. 1-2. L
04.02.06 - Did not dress. 0-1. L
03.25.06 - Did not dress. 0-2. L
03.20.06 [FA Cup Quarterfinals] - Ejected 56'. Red Card 56'. 1-2. L
03.18.06 - Played full match. 0-1. L
03.14.06 [FA Cup] - Played full match. 2-1. W
03.11.06 - Played full match. 1-2. L
03.05.06 - Substituted in 60'. 2-1. W
02.26.06 - Did not dress. 0-1. L
02.19.06 [FA Cup] - Did not dress. 1-1. D
02.12.06 - Did not dress. 3-2. W
02.04.06 - Played full match. 0-1. L
02.01.06 - Played full match. 3-0. W
01.28.06 [FA Cup] - Played full match. 1-0. W
01.21.06 - Played full match. Yellow Card 86'. 0-2. L
01.14.06 - Played full match. 3-1. W
01.07.06 [FA Cup] - Played full match. 3-1. W
01.04.06 - Played full match. 0-2. L
12.31.05 - Played full match. 0-0. D
12.28.05 - Played full match. 0-1. L
12.26.05 - Played full match. 3-4. L
12.17.05 - Played full match. Yellow Card 82'. 4-1. W
12.10.05 - Played full match. 0-2. L
12.04.05 - Played full match. Yellow Card 60'. 5-2. W
11.26.05 - Substituted in 75'. 0-1. L
11.19.05 - Played full match. 0-0. D
11.05.05 - Substituted in 68'. 1-2. L
10.31.05 - Substituted in 45'. 3-1. W
10.22.05 - Substituted in 85'. 0-1. L
10.16.05 - Substituted in 87'. 2-1. W
10.02.05 - Substituted in 90'. 2-0. W
09.24.05 - Played full match. 0-1. L
09.21.05 [League Cup] - Played full match. 1-1. [Penalties: 0-3] L
09.18.05 - Substituted in 26'. 0-1. L
09.10.05 - Substituted in 72'. 1-1. D
08.27.05 - Substituted in 45'. 2-1. W
08.23.05 - Substituted in 80'. 2-1. W
08.20.05 - Substituted in 72'. 2-1. W
08.13.05 - Did not play. 0-0. D

Next match - 04.15.06 Man City is 13th and 14 points behind 5th (UEFA Cup berth).

[xfactor857]

http://skysports.planetfootball.com/images/players/34033.jpg...DONG FANGZHUO MATCH UPDATE...http://www.kbhz.be/logos/antwerp.gif

04.08.06 - Substituted out 78'. 0-1. L
04.01.06 - Substituted out 68'. 0-0. D
03.25.06 - Substituted out 83'. Scored 23'. 2-1. W
03.22.06 - Substituted out 82'. Scored 30'. 3-2. W
03.19.06 - Played full match. Scored 47'. 2-1. W
03.11.06 - Ejected 80'. Scored 52'. Red card 80'. 3-2. W
03.04.06 - Substituted in 73'. 1-1. D
02.25.06 - Did not play. 3-1. W
02.18.06 - Played full match. Yellow card 89'. 1-0. W
02.12.06 - POSTPONED
02.04.06 - Substituted out 79'. Scored 11', 53', and 73'. 4-1. W
01.28.06 - Played full match. Scored 73'. 1-1. D
01.21.06 - Substituted out 69'. 0-1. L
01.14.06 - Played full match. 0-2. L
01.11.06 - Played full match. Scored 14'. 1-4. L
01.07.06 - Played full match. 1-2. L
12.17.05 - Played full match. 1-1. D
12.10.05 - Played full match. 0-0. D
12.03.05 - Played full match. Scored 34', 68', and 83'. 5-0. W
11.27.05 - POSTPONED
11.19.05 - Did not play. 4-3. W
11.05.05 - Substituted in 84'. 1-0. W
10.30.05 - Played full match. 0-4. L
10.23.05 - Played full match. Scored 56'. 1-5. L
10.15.05 - Played full match. 1-2. L
10.09.05 - Played full match. Scored 56' and 88'. Yellow card 89'. 4-1. W
10.01.05 - Substituted in 67'. 0-0. D
09.25.05 - Substituted out 81'. 0-3. L
09.17.05 - Did not play. 2-3. L
09.10.05 - Ejected 44'. Scored 23' (penalty). Yellow card 43' and 44'. 3-1. W
09.04.05 - Played full match. Scored 78' (penalty). 2-2. D
08.31.05 - Played full match. Scored 80'. 1-1. D
08.26.05 [Friendly] - Substituted out 85'. Scored 17'. 4-0. W
08.20.05 - Played full match. 2-4. L
08.16.05 [Friendly] - Ejected 51'. Scored 17' and 33'. Red card 51'. 3-2. W
08.13.05 [Friendly] - Substituted in 46'. Scored 68'. 3-0. W
08.10.05 [Friendly] - Did not play. 0-2. L
08.06.05 [Friendly] - Substituted out 76'. 0-1. L
08.03.05 [Friendly] - Substituted in 64'. 1-6. L

Next match - 04.15.06 Antwerp is 6th and 16 points behind 1st.

Belgian 2nd Division 3rd Period
1. RAEC Mons..................8...17
2. [B]Antwerp....................8...17
3. KV Red Star Waasland...8...17

4 matches remain.

[xfactor857]

http://home.skysports.com/images/players/13115.jpg...SHAO JIAYI MATCH UPDATE...http://www.bundesliga.de/imperia/md/images/vereine/36.gif

04.09.06 - Played full match. 1-1. D
04.03.06 - Did not dress. 0-1. L
03.29.06 - Did not dress. 0-1. L
03.26.06 - Substituted out 63'. Scored 54'. 3-0. W
03.19.06 - Played full match. 1-0. W
03.13.06 - Substituted out 81'. 0-1. L
03.05.06 - Substituted out 83'. 3-3. D
02.27.06 - Substituted in 67'. Yellow Card. 1-2. L
02.17.06 - Did not dress. 1-1. D
02.10.06 - Substituted out 62'. 0-2. L
02.06.06 - Played full match. 2-2. D
01.29.06 - Substituted in 59'. 1-3. L
01.25.06 [German Cup] - Played full match. 1-3. L
01.20.06 - Played full match. 0-0. D
12.20.05 [German Cup] - Played full match. Scored 90'. Yellow Card. 1-1. [AET: 3-1] W
12.16.05 - Played full match. 2-3. L
12.11.05 - Played full match. 0-0. D
12.04.05 - Played full match. 1-4. L
11.27.05 - Substituted out 62'. Scored 17'. Yellow Card. 2-1. W
11.20.05 - Played full match. Scored 68'. 1-1. D
11.04.05 - Played full match. Scored 6'. 2-0. W
10.31.05 - Substituted in 55'. 0-0. D
10.26.05 [German Cup] - Played full match. Scored 37'. 3-2. W
10.23.05 - Substituted in 85'. 2-1. W
10.14.05 - Substituted in 84'. 1-0. W
10.03.05 - Did not dress. 0-1. L
09.23.05 - Substituted in 58'. 1-0. W
09.20.05 - Substituted in 77'. 0-1. L
09.16.05 - Did not play. 5-2. W
09.09.05 - Did not dress. 1-2. L
08.29.05 - Did not dress. 2-2. D
08.19.05 [German Cup] - Did not play. 2-1. W
08.12.05 - Did not dress. 4-1. W
08.07.05 - Did not dress. 2-1. W

Next match - 04.16.06 1860 Munich is 13th and 4 points above 15th (relegation).