England cannot win the World Cup

[leg_breaker]

As long as Sven and Beckham are around.

It's a fact that you CANNOT win the World Cup when you have a manager with a losing mentality. Sven has a losing mentality, as soon as England take the lead against a top team he panics, it's like he's scared that we've scored and angered the other team. Compare this to the 66 when Alf Ramsey made sure the players KNEW they were going to win.

We also cannot win when our 'captain' is the most one-dimensional, unreliable, petulant player in the world. He's ruined the last two world cups, first by being sent off, then by playing injured. This is also the fault of the manager who doesn't have the balls to drop him.

[Eertamai]

We also cannot win when our 'captain' is the most one-dimensional, unreliable, petulant player in the world. He's ruined the last two world cups, first by being sent off, then by playing injured. This is also the fault of the manager who doesn't have the balls to drop him.
I take it you haven't had the chance to watch much Spanish football this season. Also, are you familiar with Messrs Reyes and Bellamy?

England have a chance to win it, if the main players are fit and on the top of their game, and the luck goes their way.

[sinner78]

Well well well.
Mr negative is back with another doom-laden post .
Everything in the world is crap for you aint it??? just top yourself and be done with it .all we need now is for the TheBaron and Cobra to show up and we got ourselves a real suicide party.

Brazil are top faves ,italy in 2nd and then us in a group behind them .
Im just gonna roll with and enjoy it.
you can f'ck off and listen to manic street preachers.

[sendorange]

Brazil are top faves ,italy in 2nd and then us in a group behind them .
Im just gonna roll with and enjoy it.
you can f'ck off and listen to manic street preachers.
Too right:cool:

[benni...]

England can definately win it. They have a pretty easy group, and they would be playing the second place team in Germany's group if they win, and most likely Germany if they dont win the group. That right there is an automatic quarterfinal birth.

[sinner78]

Too right:cool:


enjoy the cup ,sendo.
just dont go over to leg_fakers house to watch the games.

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[TheBaRoN]

Well well well.
Mr negative is back with another doom-laden post .
Everything in the world is crap for you aint it??? just top yourself and be done with it .all we need now is for the TheBaron and Cobra to show up and we got ourselves a real suicide party.

Brazil are top faves ,italy in 2nd and then us in a group behind them .
Im just gonna roll with and enjoy it.
you can f'ck off and listen to manic street preachers.

You called....

I agree with some of Leg-end's post, Sven seems to bottle it but Beckham has been very good for Madrid this season.

But the fact is who cares, nothing will change now and depressing youself over it now is stupid.Lets go to Germany and freaking enjoy it and hopefully we'll win the bloody thing.

[white riot]

I saw an interesting program on Hartlepool FC last night, they're known as the Monkey Hangers because during the Napoleonic Wars a French ship was wrecked off of Hartlepool and the only survivor was the ships monkey dressed in a military uniform, because the townsfolk had never seen a Frenchman before and the monkey couldn't speak English they hanged it as a French spy, bloody French hangings too good for 'em. Anyway it made me laugh.

http://www.hartlepoolunited.premiumtv.co.uk/page/MonkeyLegend/0,,10326,00.html

[Alan_V]

I would submit that any team, especialy those that advance from the group stages, have a chance to win it all. Yeah, it takes some luck and the team playing there socks off, combined with let's say, Ronaldinho, Ronaldo and Roberto Carlos going missing for injury, suspension, whatever. The old standard of "On any given day, any team CAN beat any other team" will never die.

[The Potter]

I saw an interesting program on Hartlepool FC last night, they're known as the Monkey Hangers because during the Napoleonic Wars a French ship was wrecked off of Hartlepool and the only survivor was the ships monkey dressed in a military uniform, because the townsfolk had never seen a Frenchman before and the monkey couldn't speak English they hanged it as a French spy, bloody French hangings too good for 'em. Anyway it made me laugh.

http://www.hartlepoolunited.premiumtv.co.uk/page/MonkeyLegend/0,,10326,00.html


It probably was a Frenchman, a small French child they're rather monkey-esque. The story is just a ploy to make the people of the north-east look backward, which we all know they aren't. Right?

[white riot]

It probably was a Frenchman, a small French child they're rather monkey-esque. The story is just a ploy to make the people of the north-east look backward, which we all know they aren't. Right?

Not at all, they actually seem quite proud of it, they've got a monkey as a mascot, he's called Hangus.

[The Potter]

Not at all, they actually seem quite proud of it, they've got a monkey as a mascot, he's called Hangus.


Not true he even had famous last words, translated from French it sounds something like.....

I wanna be a man, mancub
And stroll right into town
And be just like the other men
I'm tired of monkeyin' around!
Oh, oobee doo


Very sad.

[benni...]

I like the concept of you guys here. If someone comes here with a bogus or negative thread you swiftly change the topic to something more interestiong. Im going to use that.


By the way I am not being sarcastic.

[Sempre]

enjoy the cup ,sendo.
just dont go over to leg_fakers house to watch the games.

http://sambot.com/images/postimages/asylum/lg/noose.jpg

Sinner is legend. :)

I don't think Italy is the 2nd favorite, though. I like England's
defense better; they can lose one of their main defenders and
a class act like King or Carragher will cover. Rooney also seems
ready for a big Cup. I would have the same confidence in Totti
except that terrible injury he just suffered has made me a bit
doubtful. :cool:

[RichardL]

Not at all, they actually seem quite proud of it, they've got a monkey as a mascot, he's called Hangus.
he got elected as mayor of hartlepool a few years ago too. I think he campaigned with the promise of free bananas for all schoolchildren or something like that. Whether he kept that promise, and whether he attended civic meetings in the monkey outfit wasn't covered by the news though.

[The Potter]

he got elected as mayor of hartlepool a few years ago too. I think he campaigned with the promise of free bananas for all schoolchildren or something like that. Whether he kept that promise, and whether he attended civic meetings in the monkey outfit wasn't covered by the news though.


Don't think he did. He actually struck me as a bit of a plank.

[white riot]

Don't think he did. He actually struck me as a bit of a plank.

He took himself pretty seriously he said something like "After I got elected it was time to get out of the monkey suit and roll up my sleeves and see what we could do." You work for local government mate, you're not saving the World. Anyway Hartlepool got a new bloke to be Hangus so it's not like the pompus twat's been missed.

[white riot]

Who can't win the World Cup?

http://www.bigsoccershop.com/shop-by-team-england-national-team-england-germany-world-cup-2002-qualifier-video.html

[matty boy]

As long as Sven and Beckham are around.

It's a fact that you CANNOT win the World Cup when you have a manager with a losing mentality. Sven has a losing mentality, as soon as England take the lead against a top team he panics, it's like he's scared that we've scored and angered the other team. Compare this to the 66 when Alf Ramsey made sure the players KNEW they were going to win.

We also cannot win when our 'captain' is the most one-dimensional, unreliable, petulant player in the world. He's ruined the last two world cups, first by being sent off, then by playing injured. This is also the fault of the manager who doesn't have the balls to drop him.

I think you might have a bit of a point, Sven tries to play to our strengths very good defense with quality and pace up front, playing defencive and tring to catch the opposition on the break.
The problem is weirdly when we score, we tend to try and defend the 1-0 for 85 mins, then when the opponents go all out to score we defend too deep, panic and boot the ball up the pitch to nobody, instead of keeping possesion, catching them on the break and making the opponent work to get the ball back.

[gaijin]

I saw an interesting program on Hartlepool FC last night, they're known as the Monkey Hangers because during the Napoleonic Wars a French ship was wrecked off of Hartlepool and the only survivor was the ships monkey dressed in a military uniform, because the townsfolk had never seen a Frenchman before and the monkey couldn't speak English they hanged it as a French spy, bloody French hangings too good for 'em. Anyway it made me laugh.

http://www.hartlepoolunited.premiumtv.co.uk/page/MonkeyLegend/0,,10326,00.html

You never knew that mate?

Common knowledge round here. Bit thick the ol' poolies. :cool: