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usain2010
27 Jul 2002, 07:11 PM
everyone help me compile a list of all the brazilian legends ever

heres mine that i can think of really fast

Pele
Jarzinho
Revilino
Tostao
Garrincha
Zico
Socrates
Falcao
Romario

i know there are many more but its been a long day

moacir
27 Jul 2002, 10:46 PM
The first Brazilian Super Star was Leonidas called the Black Diamond by the Italians.

Riotom9
27 Jul 2002, 11:37 PM
Originally posted by usain2010
everyone help me compile a list of all the brazilian legends ever

heres mine that i can think of really fast

Pele
Jarzinho
Revilino
Tostao
Garrincha
Zico
Socrates
Falcao
Romario

i know there are many more but its been a long day

Zagallo? Torres? Didi?

Has Ronaldo finally matched Romario on the world stage? Certainly he's behind in the records, club goals and the like...but he's accomplished as much at 25 as Romario did at 28. If he returned to Brasilian club football as Romario did soon after the 94 World Cup, Ronaldo would easily pass into this class. (I'm secretly hoping he'll win a scudetto for Inter next year, then play for 5 years at Flamengo...)

I believe as the modern era passes into the 'previous generation', Roberto Carlos and Ronaldo will definitely make the list. Cafu and Rivaldo should be on the short list after that.

I recently looked back and watched a few hours of tape of Pele and his teams from 58 and 62...certainly it's another era, and the speed, size, and strength of the players doesn't match today. But I couldn't help but have a little more respect for some of todays players that perform much of the same magic..the fabulous ball control, penetrating the box - all against MUCH more difficult defenses. The defenders in those days played 1 meter off of the ball and just let the player stand at the penalty line for 5-10 seconds as his teammates were making runs and cuts to open space.

Those players listed are all historically world class, but I felt a little more respect for some of the greats of the modern game also, given the new obstacles in front of them.

footballcrazee
28 Jul 2002, 12:22 AM
I don't feel that the current players are necessarily faster, although they are certainly stronger. Marking wasn't as close during that era, it is true, but a defender couldn't mark Pele closely or he'd be embarrassed (unless able to get away with fouling like Portugal in '66, for example).

Some other Brazilian legends of the past:

Vava
Gerson
Nilton Santos
Djalma Santos

FiveXChampion
28 Jul 2002, 12:48 AM
Originally posted by usain2010
everyone help me compile a list of all the brazilian legends ever

The great Didi, inventor of the curly freekick. Gerson...

BTW, you mispelled Rivelino's name.

copaantl98
28 Jul 2002, 12:50 AM
How about Carlos Alberto?

slipknotter
28 Jul 2002, 06:04 PM
Gilmar, anyone? Why don't we just choose the entire 1970 squad for this?

edmundo animal
28 Jul 2002, 09:51 PM
SO MANY PLAYERS TO LIST. WOULD TAKE WEEKS JUST TO NAME THEM ALL. HERE'S MY LIST:

RONALDO FAUSTO PIAZZA
OCTACILIO ZIZINHO NILTON SANTOS
CARECA BELLINI BRITO
TOSTAO GERSON EDU
AMARAL DIRCEU PAULO CESAR
CASAGRANDE JOSIMAR ALEMAO
BRANCO DUNGA MULLER
MAURO GALVAO
***** EDMUNDO *****

THERE ARE MORE BUT HOPE THIS HELPS!

SoccerScout
29 Jul 2002, 12:00 PM
I will concentrate on Southern Brazil, Rio Grande do Sul State, where Internacional and Gremio are the big clubs. The hall of famers produced there would be and Im probably missing a few names:

- Falcao (70's & 80's WC82 & 86)
- Dunga (80's & 90's WC90, 94, 98)
- Taffarel (80's - current WC90, 94, 98)
- Batista (70's & 80's WC78 & 82)
- Tesourinha (40's, 50's)
- Renato Gaucho (80's , 90's WC's?)
- Valdomiro (WC 74)
- Jair (70's & 80's)
- Mauro Galvao (70's, 80's, 90's, still active WC 90)
- Branco (80's and 90's WC 86,90,94)
- Everaldo (WC 1970 starter, died a few years later in car crash
- Larri Pinto de Faria (50's)
- Tarciso (70's , 80's)

usain2010
30 Jul 2002, 03:46 PM
thanks for the help keep thinking of others... brazil is the shitttttt!!!!!!! I LOVE BRAZIL hahahahaha

Elninho
08 Oct 2002, 04:08 AM
Originally posted by edmundo animal
SO MANY PLAYERS TO LIST. WOULD TAKE WEEKS JUST TO NAME THEM ALL. HERE'S MY LIST:

RONALDO FAUSTO PIAZZA
OCTACILIO ZIZINHO NILTON SANTOS
CARECA BELLINI BRITO
TOSTAO GERSON EDU
AMARAL DIRCEU PAULO CESAR
CASAGRANDE JOSIMAR ALEMAO
BRANCO DUNGA MULLER
MAURO GALVAO
***** EDMUNDO *****

THERE ARE MORE BUT HOPE THIS HELPS!

EDMUNDO?!?!?! He doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as any of the above.

Cool Rob
08 Oct 2002, 11:44 AM
ALL Time Brazil XI


Gilmar

Carlos Alberto N Santos Junior Roberto Carlos

Garrincha Zico Didi Rivaldo


Pele Ronaldo

Bench:

Socrates
Rivelino
Tostao
Jairzinho
Falcao
Marcos
Leonidas
Vava
Cafu
Eder
Dunga

Sao Taffarel
08 Oct 2002, 04:34 PM
eh? you seem to have 2 left backs and 2 right backs! where are the central defenders?!

SoccerScout
08 Oct 2002, 04:45 PM
Now that this thread has been reborn I must say its a HUGE task to compose a Brazilian Hall of fame list, because there are SO MANY GREAT players...and I mean GREAT...that are not known Internationally but that were huge in there club career in Brazil. Brazil has so many greats that not all could shine on the national team, most greats only had a few passings with the National team. Just to name a few that I can think of from the era I lived there (79-85)

Reinaldo (Atletico MG)
Jair (Inter RS also WC with Penharol in 80-something)
Renato Gaucho
Carpegianni
Dario (aka...King Dada)
Escurinho
Biro-Biro
Alemao
Casagrande
Mario Sergio
Some Goalies: Manga, Leao, Taffarel, Raul Plasmann

These are just a few from that era..if we were to list all eras the list would be gigantic, in the hundreds.

Playable Back
10 Oct 2002, 09:07 AM
Originally posted by Cool Rob
ALL Time Brazil XI


Gilmar

Carlos Alberto N Santos Junior Roberto Carlos

Garrincha Zico Didi Rivaldo


Pele Ronaldo

Bench:

Socrates
Rivelino
Tostao
Jairzinho
Falcao
Marcos
Leonidas
Vava
Cafu
Eder
Dunga

Did I miss something or did Romario not make your starting XI OR even your bench?

Cool Rob
30 Oct 2002, 03:38 PM
Yes, I forgot Romario. Shame on me.

By the way, Brazil does not need center backs.

Can you think of any that would push the other
11 out of the lineup??
I really believe Lucio will eventually be the best
ever.

slipknotter
01 Nov 2002, 09:44 PM
Leonidas da Silva, the man who revolutionized the bicycle kick.