Fan Code of Conduct?

[McOwen]

http://www.mlsnet.com/MLS/dcu/fans/code_of_conduct/

What is this load of crap?

To be clear this appears to be an MLS HQ thing and NOT a DC United thing, (I first saw it in rivalries where we were laughing at KC fans) but one has to wonder.

--With attendance rates bordering on embaressing league wide, what does the league SERIOUSLY hope to accomplish with this?

[BBBulldog]

Barra board > you :D

I would guess they have that thing every year, we just never found it before :)

[MattMathai]

http://www.mlsnet.com/MLS/dcu/fans/code_of_conduct/

What is this load of crap?

To be clear this appears to be an MLS HQ thing and NOT a DC United thing, (I first saw it in rivalries where we were laughing at KC fans) but one has to wonder.



I believe this is a fine set of guidelines for the family section.

[MikeLastort2]

It is a load of crap.

What the hell do some of these things even mean? The items in the "Fan Bill Of Rights" are extremely vague.

[bofahey]

It is a load of crap.

What the hell do some of these things even mean? The items in the "Fan Bill Of Rights" are extremely vague.
Which of these is really so hard to comply with?

[McOwen]

Dear Mod(s)

This is not a "supporter" issue but a fan one :D

--Jokes aside, I will admit this bugs me a bit because I feel it is aimed at supporters LEAGUE WIDE and they are the modest few who go the extra mile to keep this league where it "is today"

On top of that, are they really serious? I mean do they honestly expect people to forgo their right to free speech (tasteful banners or objections to referees) ? :rolleyes:

This whole thing looks amateur and minor league.

[Nick_78]

I'll probably use these rules to light my cigarette in front of my seat which isn't assigned to me after spilling my beer on a small child during an obscenity laced tirade at whatever indivdual was dumb enough to piss me off. This individual may be, but is not limited to, referees, opposing players, other fans, ball kids, random kids, mascots, stadium employees, my seat, the stadium, the ball, myself, birds, the beer man, clouds, the sun, the moon, rain, snow, weather in general, and/or badgers.

And if those ball kids don't want to get pegged with a ball, they should pay more attention in dodgeball class.

:D :D

[Nick_78]

Which of these is really so hard to comply with?

Pretty much all of them with the exception of not trying to take a ball kids head off, and, to be honest, I'm tempted to break that one at times.

:D

[bofahey]

Pretty much all of them with the exception of not trying to take a ball kids head off, and, to be honest, I'm tempted to break that one at times.

:D
Well, I do agree with you about the ball kids. They definitely don't seem to understand stalling with the return of balls to the opposition, etc., at times. :D

[KGDG2005]

A fan attending a Major League Soccer game has the right to watch the game in a safe, clean and healthy environment.

I believe that to be impossible in the Swamp!

A fan attending a Major League Soccer game has the right to know that the investors, team management, coaches, and players appreciate each fan's support.

Hmmm... that must not apply to the ESC!

A fan attending a Major League Soccer game has the right to know that the investors, team management, coaches, and players maintain the highest regard for the integrity of the game of soccer.

Ummm... that is why we had to endure such abominations like the shootout clock in those early days! Or that smearing SOB Ellinger...

A fan attending a Major League Soccer game has the right to be treated in a consistent, courteous, and professional manner by all stadium and team personnel.

CSC????


A fan attending a Major League Soccer game has the right to 'cheer on' his or her team provided that the support is in good taste and does not negatively impact the event experience of his/her fellow spectators.

Bwahahahahahahahahaha!!! Who exactly is going to be the deus ex machina determining what is in good taste?

A fan attending a Major League Soccer game has the right to 'cheer on' his or her team provided that the support is in good taste and does not negatively impact the playing of the game.

They are clearly referring to RSL and Crew fans! Here we believe strongly that our role is to make sure that the opposition is negatively impacted.

A fan attending a Major League Soccer game has the right to be treated with dignity and respect by other spectators attending the game as well as the stadium personnel, competing teams, and organization staging the game.

Erm... does this include 750 RBNY freeloaders?


A fan attending a Major League Soccer game has the right to expect good sportsmanship, on and off the field, from Major League Soccer personnel.

Just wait till Amado Guevara or Carlos Ruiz shows up!

A fan attending a Major League Soccer game has the right to expect prompt and accurate information as it relates to the competition and stadium experience.

Could you turn that jock rock up a bit more?

A fan attending a Major League Soccer game has the right to expect reasonable prices for all goods and services available at the game and under the control of the team.

Note the subtle like a hammer avoidance of parking rates!

A fan attending a Major League Soccer game has the right to express constructive criticism regarding the competition and the stadium experience and have those opinions transmitted to Major League Soccer or its representatives.

Dear Don Garber and your minions... no more Bill of Rights, please :p

[MikeLastort2]

Which of these is really so hard to comply with?
Are you trying to tell me that you don't think a single one of those items is vague and that there is no room for interpretation?

[bofahey]

Are you trying to tell me that you don't think a single one of those items is vague and that there is no room for interpretation?
Of course there is room for interpretation.

What do you want though, an itemized list that says which words/actions are inciteful and which aren't?

Use some common sense and you'll be fine.

[Nick_78]

Of course there is room for interpretation.

What do you want though, an itemized list that says which words/actions are inciteful and which aren't?

Use some common sense and you'll be fine.

Or how about we continue to behave as we always have and not worry about a stupid set of rules that were only put out to show that the league "cares" about a family friendly environment.

[alco_soccerstar]

Are you freaking kidding me!? No fould language or gestures toward players or refs? Oh, Im sorry. I forgot we want the family to come and watch a wholesome game of soccer. Well guess what...F*&K THAT S&*T!! LOL But seriously. Soccer needs passion and cursing is passion to most of us. Seriously. Its how we express ourselves. I was at the Fire playoff game last year. If these rules were in effect it would have sucked even more. Upper people at MLS, you need to understand. Every game that takes place from now until the end will have the support groups chanting, screaming and cursing. I in no way endorse rascist remarks. That is stupid and uncalled for. Throwing things isnt cool unless its paper. The smoke bombs are cool in the stands, but not on the field. We were all pissed but come on now. Its like they dontwant us to have fun or something. All I can figure is no one will pay attention to it and things will go as they have, which is a good thing.

[bofahey]

On top of that, are they really serious? I mean do they honestly expect people to forgo their right to free speech (tasteful banners or objections to referees) ? :rolleyes:

The rules prohibit "obscene, indecent, political or inciteful messages" and "taunting, abusing or any other improper gestures" towards referees. Hardly anything restrictive.

So I think it's safe to say that making monkey noises when Edson Buddle takes a corner or chanting F*** You Ref are prohibited. A banner that says "New Name, Same Lame" is OK. Use common sense with respect to actions in between.

Don't worry, the First Amendment isn't in danger here. (If you want to see that, just attend a "W" rally and be forced to take the loyalty oath.)

[MattMathai]

Of course there is room for interpretation.

What do you want though, an itemized list that says which words/actions are inciteful and which aren't?

Use some common sense and you'll be fine.

You're exactly right.

In fact, your words, "Use some common sense and you'll be fine" could serve just fine as a code of conduct.

What they've got listed is pointless.

[bofahey]

Or how about we continue to behave as we always have and not worry about a stupid set of rules that were only put out to show that the league "cares" about a family friendly environment.
That's exactly right. These rules just codify rules that have already been in existence. Nothing has changed.

[MikeLastort2]

Of course there is room for interpretation.

What do you want though, an itemized list that says which words/actions are inciteful and which aren't?

Use some common sense and you'll be fine.
As long as they consider $30.00 a reasonable price for a personalized jersey, like I do, then I guess it's not vague at all.

[MikeLastort2]

That's exactly right. These rules just codify rules that have already been in existence. Nothing has changed.

Then why the hell did MLS feel it necessary to create them?

[MattMathai]

Then why the hell did MLS feel it necessary to create them?

Mike, Mike, Mike. You've consulted for the government, so I'm sure you're familiar with this principle:

It isn't important to do something useful so long as you do something that allows you to CLAIM you've done something useful.