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THOMA GOL
27 Mar 2006, 09:44 PM
I'm not sure if this thread currently exists, but if not, I'm keen to know of the Englishmen representing at clubs globally. And in your honest opinion, who has been the best English player to play abroad? (some would say Lineaker,Keegan, Gazza, maybe Beckham or Platt?)
The Potter
28 Mar 2006, 08:58 AM
And in your honest opinion, who has been the best English player to play abroad? (some would say Lineaker,Keegan, Gazza, maybe Beckham or Platt?)
Didn't Waddle do rather well in France? I think it's fair to say Keegan has been the most impressive Englishman abroad.
gaijin
28 Mar 2006, 11:52 AM
http://www.venneravpompey.com/pompeybilder/mark%20hateley%20monaco.jpg
o_O
The Potter
28 Mar 2006, 12:10 PM
It looks like some kind of small rodent has curled-up and died on Glenn's head.
THOMA GOL
28 Mar 2006, 07:58 PM
What are reasons why there aren't that many English Abroad? IMHO, the Premier League is in top form with its quality, and Englishmen could give this quality to the world for various club sides. Is there some form of aprehension from clubs aborad? Are the English aprehensive about leaving home?
Placid Casual
28 Mar 2006, 08:02 PM
What are reasons why there aren't that many English Abroad? IMHO, the Premier League is in top form with its quality, and Englishmen could give this quality to the world for various club sides. Is there some form of aprehension from clubs aborad? Are the English aprehensive about leaving home?
Money. Premiership is pretty much the best payer top to bottom in Europe.
The Potter
28 Mar 2006, 08:02 PM
What are reasons why there aren't that many English Abroad? IMHO, the Premier League is in top form with its quality, and Englishmen could give this quality to the world for various club sides. Is there some form of aprehension from clubs aborad? Are the English aprehensive about leaving home?
-Bigger wages at home
-English players cost alot
-No foriegn league is noticebly better
three lions
28 Mar 2006, 09:26 PM
1. Money
2. Most like staying closer to home
3. Prestige of playing in the F.A Premier League...
THOMA GOL
29 Mar 2006, 12:03 AM
True, true. Maybe I'm just being naive, but it would be nice to see something different/fresh in other leagues i.e. an English GK shutting em down in Spain or the States;) , a solid English bruiser playing in Germany or Russia, a spirited English midfielder making moves in Italy or Portugal, or an English striker pimping the goals in France or Holland.
glennaldo_sf
29 Mar 2006, 03:52 AM
I'm not sure if this thread currently exists, but if not, I'm keen to know of the Englishmen representing at clubs globally. And in your honest opinion, who has been the best English player to play abroad? (some would say Lineaker,Keegan, Gazza, maybe Beckham or Platt?)
Some other Englishmen to have had some sort of champions league success abroad: Steve McManaman, Owen Hargreaves, and Mark Hateley @ Glasgow Rangers. The latter I believe would've played in the 93 final had it not been for Marseille bribing their way instead.
leg_breaker
29 Mar 2006, 06:01 AM
More money in the Premiership, even for the smaller teams. Owen gets more money playing for Newcastle than he did Real Madrid.
Leto
29 Mar 2006, 09:18 AM
Few Englishmen play abroad purely because their domestic league is already one of the strongest in the world. Until recent seasons very few Spaniards or Italians played abroad for the same reason (and even with greater movement in recent times most still remain at home).
For those that do move, if there are any problems settling in or playing at their new club the natural place to return is back to England (eg Michael Owen, or Robbie Keane - for the purposes of this discussion English/Irish/Scots/Welsh players can be included as "domestic").
Anyway, Michael Ball's at PSV and he seems to have disappeared off everyone's radar entirely.
poorvi
29 Mar 2006, 10:23 AM
John Barnes was fairly sucessful at Inter Milan.
Leto
29 Mar 2006, 11:09 AM
John Barnes never played for Inter.
Luther Blissett at Milan, on the other hand...hugely successful. Hugely.
FiveMagics
29 Mar 2006, 11:42 AM
Hargreaves is doing well at Bayern, Beckham at Real, thats probably the only ones in good leagues.
English players actually do rather abroad. Hoddle at Marseille, Ince at Inter, Gazza at Lazio (to some extent) and many more etc.
Leto
29 Mar 2006, 11:49 AM
Hargreaves is doing well at Bayern, Beckham at Real, thats probably the only ones in good leagues.
Woodgate is the best of all English players abroad.
The Potter
29 Mar 2006, 12:18 PM
John Barnes never played for Inter.
Luther Blissett at Milan, on the other hand...hugely successful. Hugely.
I think it was a joke Leto. The rumour is they brought Blissett thinking it was Barnes.
Leto
29 Mar 2006, 12:27 PM
I did wonder - I didn't see why he'd substitute Inter in though, and figured he'd confused the story. Mea culpa.
three lions
29 Mar 2006, 12:43 PM
Woodgate is the best of all English players abroad.
Yeah, his "own" goals have been superb.. :rolleyes: Nothing against Woodgate, but not the best abroad imo....
The Potter
29 Mar 2006, 01:35 PM
Yeah, his "own" goals have been superb.. :rolleyes: Nothing against Woodgate, but not the best abroad imo....
Yes he is. A fit Woodgate is one of the best defenders in the world.