Ukrainian election thread

[JBigjake]

http://www.optonline.net/News/Article/Feeds?CID=type%3Dxml%26channel%3D32%26article%3D17804400
"Ukrainians cast ballots Sunday in a parliamentary election that could tip this divided ex-Soviet republic back toward Russia just 16 months after the Orange Revolution helped put it on a westward course. ... Yushchenko's ratings plummeted from 70 percent a year ago to under 20 percentage points in recent opinion polls."
Another nascent democracy about to experience the backlash phenomenom?

[ViscaBarca]

http://www.optonline.net/News/Article/Feeds?CID=type%3Dxml%26channel%3D32%26article%3D17804400
"Ukrainians cast ballots Sunday in a parliamentary election that could tip this divided ex-Soviet republic back toward Russia just 16 months after the Orange Revolution helped put it on a westward course. ... Yushchenko's ratings plummeted from 70 percent a year ago to under 20 percentage points in recent opinion polls."
Another nascent democracy about to experience the backlash phenomenom?
well, given that the in the west so celebrated orange revolutionists are the very same people who got the ukraine into that whole mess many years ago in the first place, i'm not surprised at all. maybe if the west would choose the people it supports on the basis of competence instead of loyalty and willingness to sell their country off things could be a lot better in many countries.

[odessit19]

http://www.optonline.net/News/Article/Feeds?CID=type%3Dxml%26channel%3D32%26article%3D17804400
"Ukrainians cast ballots Sunday in a parliamentary election that could tip this divided ex-Soviet republic back toward Russia just 16 months after the Orange Revolution helped put it on a westward course. ... Yushchenko's ratings plummeted from 70 percent a year ago to under 20 percentage points in recent opinion polls."
Another nascent democracy about to experience the backlash phenomenom?

I'll be there in 6 weeks and I will let you know what is going on there... ok

[Zenit]

13% is the latest figure for Yushchenko's party, firmly entrenched in 3rd place, anywhere between 10-12 percentage points behind Yanukovich's & Timoshenko's parties, respectively.

[JBigjake]

if the west would choose the people it supports on the basis of competence instead of loyalty and willingness to sell their country off things could be a lot better in many countries.
& you would be the one to tell us who is who?

[ViscaBarca]

& you would be the one to tell us who is who?
a little bit of research into the wests hero Yushchenko would have told you exactly what kind of guy that is and why the west is supporting him in the first place. democracy up my ass!!!
maybe this link will help you a bit..
http://www.bhhrg.org/LatestNews.asp?ArticleID=53

here's a summery, but please read to whole article:

What is obvious is that the West’s preference for Yushchenko stems not from his democratic credentials or his championing of the rights Ukrainians, but precisely the opposite: from his contribution to increasing the cost of living in Ukraine. Prime Minister Yushchenko succeeded in selling off several regional electricity distribution enterprises (oblenergos) in western Ukraine to foreigners, including to the American company AES. Those familiar with AES’s history in the ex-Soviet republic of Georgia will know that the privatization had disastrous results for the electricity sector there, and left many Georgians in the dark and cold in winter. This sort of change – privatization, scarcity, increased prices – is why Yushchenko’s candidacy is really valued in the West, not for democracy, “civil society,” or any of the other slogans the West trumpets. Apparently, despite Yushchenko’s support among the “enlightened” urbanites of Kiev who long to be “cool” and “Western,” and despite the control that pro-Yushchenko supporters have been able to exercise over the electoral process and machinery in Kiev and much of western Ukraine, a majority of Ukrainian voters in the 2004 election nevertheless remembered Yushchenko’s true legacy, and chose not to return to it.

[nicephoras]

The "orange revolution" was about a big crook knocking off an even bigger crook. That the big crook had more Western Ukranian connections doesn't make him more "western" or "democratic". Its a common Western European/American theme to incorrectly gauge Russian "liberals" as American "liberals". Someone who's liberal in Russia wouldn't be a liberal in the US.
My favorite example of this has always been Rostoftzeff, who after fleeing Russia in 1918 was received as a liberal emigre in the West. Its too bad the liberals hadn't read some of his works (in Russian) which were practically pining for an enlightened monarchy.

[JBigjake]

democracy up my ass!!!
I think that you're in the wrong forum! :D