Errata to ATR 2001

[SparkeyG]

I just printed out ATR 2001. I'm just wondering if there were any errate published since?

[whipple]

There have been no specific modifications to the ATR, however, Chicago is always refining the advanced instruction through its position papers. I just posted some at http://www.massref.net/info.htm

Additionally, specific interpretations are released by Jim Allen and he has recently added a collection of papers on his site as well at: http://www.drix.net/jim/positionpapers

[Tame Lion]

Originally posted by SparkeyG
I just printed out ATR 2001. I'm just wondering if there were any errate published since?
12.28.7 conflicts with 11.10. I am told that 11.10 is the correct caution (unsporting behavior) for leaving the field without permission to put an opponent in an offside position while 12.28.7 applies to [just about] every other case of leaving the field without permission.

[pkCrouse]

Originally posted by Tame Lion
12.28.7 conflicts with 11.10. I am told that 11.10 is the correct caution (unsporting behavior) for leaving the field without permission to put an opponent in an offside position while 12.28.7 applies to [just about] every other case of leaving the field without permission.
I think you might have that backwards. You're right that there is disagreement within the ATR: 11.10 labels it as unsporting (UB) while 12.28.7 labels it as leaving the field (L). However, the 7&7 list it as L (at 7.a.), which makes more sense to me since it is the more specific of the two categories. On the pro point system, it's only worth 2 points, as opposed to half of the bullets under UB which are worth either 3 or 4 points.

You can tell it's a slow day when we're discussing something as dry and minuscule as this. Not nearly as much fun as the "advantage beyond law 12" debate. We may soon need to dredge up one of the oldie-but-goodie topics, like putting more than one whistle onto the pitch! ;)

[Tame Lion]

Originally posted by pkCrouse
I think you might have that backwards. You're right that there is disagreement within the ATR: 11.10 labels it as unsporting (UB) while 12.28.7 labels it as leaving the field (L). However, the 7&7 list it as L (at 7.a.), which makes more sense to me since it is the more specific of the two categories. On the pro point system, it's only worth 2 points, as opposed to half of the bullets under UB which are worth either 3 or 4 points.
I was just repeating what Jim Allen and several other law experts have told me.

[pkCrouse]

Originally posted by Tame Lion
I was just repeating what Jim Allen and several other law experts have told me.
Interesting. Since he has significant input to the wording of both the ATR and the 7&7, you'd think Mr. Allen would have them changed to reflect this interpretation. Maybe in the next printing.

[whistleblowerusa]

Originally posted by pkCrouse
Interesting. Since he has significant input to the wording of both the ATR and the 7&7, you'd think Mr. Allen would have them changed to reflect this interpretation. Maybe in the next printing.
The ATR has quite a few things wrong and these are expected to be corrected in the next printing. Jim Allen also is wrong on his comments at times as well.
No one is perfect.
Remember the ATR is just a guide.