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Crimen y Castigo
13 Mar 2006, 03:05 PM
Big Board Recap Here (http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=322778)

Part I Here (http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=322416]Here's%20part%20I%20baby)

Part II Here (http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=323822)

bojendyk
13 Mar 2006, 03:05 PM
As I was saying, Buena Vista Social Club is boring.

Ghost
13 Mar 2006, 03:11 PM
As I was saying, Buena Vista Social Club is boring.

Boring, I haven't listened to it enough to know. Pretentious? That's a certainty.

afgrijselijkheid
13 Mar 2006, 03:18 PM
Pretentious? That's a certainty.


:confused:

Gunner Phan
13 Mar 2006, 03:20 PM
As I was saying, Buena Vista Social Club is boring.
I would disagree.

Not sure how it's pretentious either.....

Dr. Know
13 Mar 2006, 03:35 PM
Neither boring nor pretentious. It's a great collection of musicians. But I don't know if many have actually heard more afro cuban son or salsa besides that album.

bojendyk
13 Mar 2006, 03:40 PM
Neither boring nor pretentious. It's a great collection of musicians. But I don't know if many have actually heard more afro cuban son or salsa besides that album.

Maybe I've never heard it in its proper context. But the times I have heard it, I haven't noticed my toes tapping or my heart beat speeding up. Instead, I keep expecting the song to be interrupted by "You're listening to NPR."

ForeverRed
13 Mar 2006, 03:42 PM
Maybe you and other doubters would enjoy Buena Vista Social more if you watch Ry Cooder's documentary....it's a brilliant cultural analysis and a fantastic discovery....a real hidden gem that was exposed with this album.

Musicians like Ferrer should be making millions instead of Ashley Simpson and other such dolts.

Dr. Know
13 Mar 2006, 03:54 PM
Musicians like Ferrer should be making millions instead of Ashley Simpson and other such dolts.

Ibrahim Ferrer saldly passed away last year. Compay Segundo and Ruben Gonzalez from Buena Vista have also passed away. I doubt Ferrer was making millions but I also doubt he still lived in that little house shown in the documentary. I saw him live around 2003 playing to a packed theater and the tickets were not remotely cheap.

Ghost
13 Mar 2006, 03:54 PM
Instead, I keep expecting the song to be interrupted by "You're listening to NPR."

This is sor t of what I mean. Maybe the music itself isn't pretentious, but being a fan of it certainly is.

Dr. Know
13 Mar 2006, 03:57 PM
Maybe the music itself isn't pretentious, but being a fan of it certainly is.

Why?:confused:

ForeverRed
13 Mar 2006, 04:03 PM
Ibrahim Ferrer saldly passed away last year. Compay Segundo and Ruben Gonzalez from Buena Vista have also passed away. I doubt Ferrer was making millions but I also doubt he still lived in that little house shown in the documentary. I saw him live around 2003 playing to a packed theater and the tickets were not remotely cheap.

And rightly so but seeing the documentary, you can see that it was LONG overdue. He had been doing that for decades before the documentary spread the messege to the world.

MeridianFC
13 Mar 2006, 04:05 PM
UnorthodoxYank - Ornette Coleman Double Quartet - Free Jazz (A Collective Improvisation)

Man oh man. Important, yup. Influential, yup. Difficult, yup. Enigmatic, yup. I have to assume that Ornette is speaking to intelligent life from beyond in their own language. Of interest is the cd reissue with both takes of free jazz. Lest one assume that the musicians were just playing notes willy nilly (I admit I thought it did sound like that on first blush), to see how closely they traced their paths both go rounds is impressive as it is frightening.

23. petezuke17 - Damien Rice - O

Understandable pick, though there's a lot of artists in this type of zone. Oddly enough there's a lot of Irish artists in this type of zone. Must be something in the water. You noted how important this recording is to you but what makes you think it's worth 10% of your choices to be representative of all that's going on. Please send your note to the court reporter.

Pints - The Kinks - The Village Green Preservation Society

This stands up to any classic rock pick of that era and it's an era worth representing. Solid Pick, good timing.

25. bmurphyfl - Buena Vista Social Club - Buena Vista Social Club

Boring and pretentious? Jaysus I feel like I've gone through the looking glass. Classic nearly forgotten artists making beautiful, soulful, subtle (I think this is what gets to some rock trained ears) music filled with so much heart and hip oil it'll make you wanna shake, cry, and dance. The fusions of music here (african, latin, big band, folk, jazz, etc) is sublime and this mix doesn't dilute only highlights each component. Simply a stunning pick and I'd call it a steal to get it in this round. A long cool drink of finest rum, complex with honey overtones. I think the ******* ****** record was recorded better and might be more cohesive, but there not doubting the slow burn this provides. Patience will be rewarded.

drknow - The Stooges - Fun House

I like this best of the Stooges record but I think you know what would've been a better choice. Just sayin' like. Still I'll listen to "Dirt" all day long.

Via_Chicago - The Who - Tommy

I love the Who. I like this record and I know it's serves it's place in the rock can do many things category. I dunno I'm gonna have to think about this for a bit and decide if it's going to save humanity or if it's just the milemarker pointing to the downfall of both the Who and mankind.

bojendyk - Duke Ellington - Ellington at Newport

Duke Ellington records, for the most part, are like picking kryptonite to fight Superman. How can you go wrong. This is like a particularly large chunk of the green antisuperhero substance. Two thumbs up, way up. Props for quantifying the edition.

Quango - Best of Motown, Vol. 1 [Compilation Pick]

Great record. This is both tactical and enjoyable, kicking the Motown wait and see crew in the pants (oh don't despair soul fans you know there's plenty still out there. You could vault right over this one). Easy pick. Do you want the bar of gold or the stick in the eye?

YanksFC - Django Reinhardt & Stephane Grappelli - Quintette du Hot Club de France: 25 Classics 1934-1940

Powerful record, but I wonder about this as a cornerstone jazz pick. I'll need to see you before the committe to explain this, unless it's fitting in some categorial way I haven't seen. Love the version of "Lady Be Good" but when thinking of DJ you've got to have "Nuages" non?

Dr. Know
13 Mar 2006, 04:05 PM
And rightly so but seeing the documentary, you can see that it was LONG overdue. He had been doing that for decades before the documentary spread the messege to the world.

Yeah definitely. Cuba, Puerto Rico, and other Caribbean places are full of these type of forgotten musicians. It was great to see how Ry Cooder got all those guys together to make that record.

obie
13 Mar 2006, 04:14 PM
"Pretentious"? Are you kidding? Ibrahim was literally shining shoes for a living in Cuba for thirty years before Cooder met him. He didn't have a pretentious bone in his body; one of the purest recording musicians ever. Listening to him on BVSC is like listening to an Alan Lomax recording, just with a better microphone.

JPH
13 Mar 2006, 04:15 PM
With its 4th pick in the BS Album Draft, JPH selects:

http://dvweb.mpf.arcstarmusic.com/image/a0fa1cd2%5Ca0fa1cd2-c5ec-4b6f-a4c2-c9ffb37c640a.BIG.jpg

Thelonious Monk - The Best of the Blue Note Years

If I had to pick only one jazz artist and composer to be included in the time capsule, it would probably be Monk. Between his off-kilter style of piano playing and his uniquely sounding compositions, Monk is definitely one of the giants of jazz.

This collection covers his early recording period (mid 40s to early 50s), right before the album format was around. The 16 tracks here have all become jazz standards, and here you get to hear the original version of each.

Great great stuff.

Note: sorry about the delay. Work has been very busy today.

ForeverRed
13 Mar 2006, 04:21 PM
With its 4th pick in the BS Album Draft, JPH selects:

http://dvweb.mpf.arcstarmusic.com/image/a0fa1cd2%5Ca0fa1cd2-c5ec-4b6f-a4c2-c9ffb37c640a.BIG.jpg

Thelonious Monk - The Best of the Blue Note Years

If I had to pick only one jazz artist and composer to be included in the time capsule, it would probably be Monk. Between his off-kilter style of piano playing and his uniquely sounding compositions, Monk is definitely one of the giants of jazz.

This collection covers his early recording period (mid 40s to early 50s), right before the album format was around. The 16 tracks here have all become jazz standards, and here you get to hear the original version of each.

Great great stuff.

Note: sorry about the delay. Work has been very busy today.

HOT HOT HOT! sweet pick, Monk is one of my absolute favorites. It really is hard to pick a single recording from such jazz greats thats why you gotta go with a compilation like this.

So far, along with Buena Vista, my two favorite picks of this round.

Wait till you see what I got in store...:D

Ghost
13 Mar 2006, 04:31 PM
"Pretentious"? Are you kidding? Ibrahim was literally shining shoes for a living in Cuba for thirty years before Cooder met him. He didn't have a pretentious bone in his body; one of the purest recording musicians ever. Listening to him on BVSC is like listening to an Alan Lomax recording, just with a better microphone.

People like BVSC less for the actual music than for the opportunity they provide to have wankery conversations.

Norsk Troll
13 Mar 2006, 04:34 PM
People like BVSC less for the actual music than for the opportunity they provide to have wankery conversations.This, coming from the defender of Eyes Wide Shut, of all people.

obie
13 Mar 2006, 04:35 PM
People like BVSC less for the actual music than for the opportunity they provide to have wankery conversations.
:rolleyes: There's no pleasing some people, I suppose.