Genesis to reform?

[sardus_pater]

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/12032006/364/genesis-reform.html

Phil Collins and Peter Gabriel will reportedly reveal their plans to regroup the Land Of Confusion band's classic line-up at a press conference in Los Angeles on Tuesday.

That "land of confusion" classic lineup is silly given it's Peter Gabriel we're talking about (and maybe Hackett?).
"The lamb lies down on broadway" 1974 classic lineup would be correct.

If it's Gabriel to conduct the whole thing I am positively waiting for it otherwise I think it's just a useless way to make some extra money.

btw the eventual live tour could be really interesting despite everything.

If the rumours are more than just rumours.

[Crimen y Castigo]

Only if this guy shows up ....

http://www.nndb.com/people/079/000023010/petergabriel03.jpg

[Smiley321]

I'm a huge fan of the band back when they had Gabriel on voice and Collins on drums. However, the odds are high that the graybeard reunion will be unimpressive. They would probably sucker me into spending my money if they did "Selling England by the Pound" however......

One of the few reunions that I give good marks to is Cream's recent reunion. I saw one of their concerts on the tube recently, and it was better than they were in their prime. Back in their prime, they'd do half-hour jams that got pretty tiresome. Ginger Baker can still play, and the drumming is the first thing that falls off with these geezer bands.

[sardus_pater]

Only if this guy shows up ....

http://www.nndb.com/people/079/000023010/petergabriel03.jpg

A flower? A flower! If you go down to willow farm to look for butterflies, flutterbyes, gutterflies...

The real news is that Gabriel looks to be involved, if it was the late trio it would have been only a saddening rumour.

[IntheNet]

That "land of confusion" classic lineup is silly given it's Peter Gabriel we're talking about (and maybe Hackett?)...As I recall, Collins and Gabriel parted ways on unhappy notes (after "The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway" in late 1974) so I would see a reunion of Genesis being pushed by one or the other of these former leads of Genesis not both... On a personal level, I would love to watch dual percussion setups of Phil Collins and Chester Thompson just one more time... their dueling drum solo on "Dance on a Volcano" was classic and worth seeing and hearing! But alas I doubt a reunion is in the cards; from the band's publicist (http://www.genesis-music.com/newsgenesis.htm#Statement):

"Statement from the members of Genesis/1st December 2005"
In the light of current speculation about their activities, the members of the Genesis have issued the following statement through Tony Smith Personal Management: "There are no decisions by Genesis to perform anywhere whatsoever at this time. This situation will not alter in the next twelve months."

[SoccerNova2009]

From World of Genesis (http://www.worldofgenesis.com/news-March06.htm):

An article posted yesterday on the Contact Music website claimed that a Genesis reunion with Phil Collins and Peter Gabriel was imminent. This same news was posted on Virgin.net. News of this alleged press conference started with the Daily Star, a UK tabloid, yesterday and since then rumors are spreading like wildfire. To reiterate, according to a statement from Genesis' management, there are no plans for a Genesis reunion in 2006. To date, there is no confirmation of such a press conference from any official source connected to the band or it's former members. More news on this when we get it, but this information appears to be false.

On the progressive rock message boards it seems that there is a Genesis reunion rumor every other week or so. I think it will happen at some point as all the members seem open to it now. I just wonder what kind of reunion will it be, would they play big stadiums of people expecting to hear the 80's songs or would they play the classic Gabriel era songs to mid sized venues. A mix of both I suppose with a greater emphasis on the 70's. A new album would be very interesting.

It will be huge news if it does come off. I would travel anywhere to see them play Foxtrot, Selling England by the Pound, Lamb Lies Down on Broadway material. 3 albums which BTW have shockingly yet to be claimed in the album draft.

[bojendyk]

On the progressive rock message boards it seems that there is a Genesis reunion rumor every other week or so. I think it will happen at some point as all the members seem open to it now. I just wonder what kind of reunion will it be, would they play big stadiums of people expecting to hear the 80's songs or would they play the classic Gabriel era songs to mid sized venues. A mix of both I suppose with a greater emphasis on the 70's. A new album would be very interesting.

It will be huge news if it does come off. I would travel anywhere to see them play Foxtrot, Selling England by the Pound, Lamb Lies Down on Broadway material. 3 albums which BTW have shockingly yet to be claimed in the album draft.

Now, I'm not a fan of any of Genesis's incarnations, but . . . wouldn't a tour emphasizing the 70s material be more likely to be successful? Because I would imagine that there aren't many people out there who are dying to hear "Invisible Touch" or "I Can't Dance" played live, outside of the county fair circuit. The cult surrounding those early Genesis records appears to me to be smaller but much more fervent.

[obie]

Let's consider PG's last few years for a moment:

-- 2002 album Up took ten years to record, all in PG's own studios, and it sold very poorly.
-- "Growing Up" world tour was his most expensive ever to produce and it did terribly at the box office, playing to 20-25% capacity in some American cities where on the Secret World tour he sold out.
-- Tapped as the artistic director of the FIFA WC06 opening ceremony, which was cancelled due to poor ticket sales.
-- Real World Records hasn't had a hit since the first Afro-Celt Sound System release, which was ten years ago.
-- Software development projects have resulted in no prominent releases.
-- WOMAD loses money every year.
-- Two ex-wives.
-- To say that Peter's tastes run expensive is like saying the sun runs hot.

So basically, I see this as a let's-build-up-that-bank-account move for Peter. Can't imagine that any of the final three (Collins, Rutherford, Banks) are desperate for cash, maybe Steve Hackett is, but by including PG this goes from a summer shed outing to stadium shows.

Oh, and if this includes actual recording, forget about seeing any product any time soon. PG tinkers so much in the studio that his next album is already called Chinese Democracy.

Not even that I care very much to be honest but if they do it up right and mix the old and new correctly, maybe first set with Phil leading and second set with PG leading, they'll all make boatloads of cash.

[#10 Jersey]

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/12032006/364/genesis-reform.html



That "land of confusion" classic lineup is silly given it's Peter Gabriel we're talking about (and maybe Hackett?).
"The lamb lies down on broadway" 1974 classic lineup would be correct.

If it's Gabriel to conduct the whole thing I am positively waiting for it otherwise I think it's just a useless way to make some extra money.

btw the eventual live tour could be really interesting despite everything.

If the rumours are more than just rumours.

Wow! You and agree on something! Yes!

I would love to see the Lamb performed live.

[#10 Jersey]

A flower? A flower! If you go down to willow farm to look for butterflies, flutterbyes, gutterflies...

The real news is that Gabriel looks to be involved, if it was the late trio it would have been only a saddening rumour.

It's 1 o clock and time for lunch...dumdee dumdee dumdee dum... right album?

[sardus_pater]

It's 1 o clock and time for lunch...dumdee dumdee dumdee dum... right album?

No. :)

This is "Selling england" (I know what I like), mine was "Supper's ready" from Foxtrot.

[BillQ]

I would pay to see a Genesis with Gabriel and Collins in it. But, there bave been way too many rumors of them getting back together that I'm taking this with a grain of salt.

[SoccerNova2009]

I think the actual LA announcement was about a different reunion : THE CARS (or The New Cars)

Rock reunion combines Cars members, Rundgren

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060315/music_nm/leisure_cars_dc


Still nothing credible concerning Genesis.

[doppelganger]

I would travel to a Colony of Slipperman if they were to perform anything Lamb-era and older...

set up the kickdrum!

[spejic]

Now, I'm not a fan of any of Genesis's incarnations, but . . . wouldn't a tour emphasizing the 70s material be more likely to be successful?I really don't think that is true. The Collins Genesis had like 10 times the record sales of the Gabriel Genesis in America, and maybe 100 times the fame (given the use of pop-Genesis songs in commercials and film). And Gabriel Genesis is so different musically from the Collins one that the people who only know the pop hits are going to be very disapointed with bizzare flights of fancy.

Besides, after Collins lost hearing in one ear, his touring has gone way way down.

[IntheNet]

Collins seperates (http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Music/03/16/people.collins.reut/index.html) from wife!

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/5070/storycollinsap6sy.th.jpg (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=storycollinsap6sy.jpg)

I think he needs new glasses... bad move from an obvious perspective!

[SoccerNova2009]

More news (http://www.genesis-news.com/news/) on the possible reunion from Phil Collins

Phil Collins on Reunion: Reproduction of The Lamb Show discussed
Further News on The Reunion issue: In today's 6am broadcast on KGO NewsTalk, Phil Collins was heared, confirming the November Reunion meeting and also saying that the band discusses to re-stage The lamb Lies Down On Broadway Show "for a limited run of shows, that would be recorded and filmed" and that Genesis will try to realise this idea.

Sounds good to me. Performing The Lamb using all the latest technology and effects could be a very impressive show to say the least. I suppose they would then encore with a medley of songs from the other points in the bands career.

[SoccerNova2009]

Genesis had a press conference yesterday and the reunion tour is going forward but it will be the three person Genesis lineup of Tony Banks, Phil Collins and Mike Rutherford. More news here (http://www.genesis-music.com/):

Tony Banks, Phil Collins and Mike Rutherford of the iconic band Genesis unveiled the dates for their first tour in 15 years. Turn It On Again - the tour

Tony Banks, Phil Collins and Mike Rutherford will be joined on stage by long time Genesis sidemen, Chester Thompson on drums and Daryl Steurmer on guitar.

According to the press conference, we'll get to see material from as far back as 1973. Tony Banks mentioned "Los Endos" and "In the Cage" as likely songs to be played. They are "not planning" to play Supper's Ready and said nothing from Calling All Stations will be played. I imagine it will be heavy on the post Hackett material with a old song medley as they have done in the past.

Well, for those of us that had hoped for a reunion of the full classic lineup this is somewhat disapointing news. But I suppose it could be looked at as a first step towards a reunion with Steve and Peter. The statement on Hacketts' official site was:

"First of all I would like to congratulate Tony, Mike and Phil for flying the flag once again. Good luck to them and I really hope they have a very successful tour.

I was originally approached to discuss the possibility of a five piece which would have included Peter Gabriel and yours truly but since Peter’s schedule precludes this it makes sense for the other three to celebrate the brand in their ‘own special way’ as it were ...."

Collins said that the five members had met and discussed the plan, but Gabriel had been "more sensitive" about what such a reunion would mean.

"This is just music, us getting together and playing some songs," he said. "Peter has been doing his thing since he left and he is just a little over-cautious about going back."

Gabriel was a founding member of the band, singing with them until 1975, when he left to pursue a solo career.

Keyboardist Tony Banks said that the Genesis gigs would include songs from most albums in the band's history.

"If Genesis is playing on the radio, it tends to be Follow You Follow Me or I Can't Dance," said Banks.

"Genesis has another side to it, a more complex area of music. One side gets slightly more attention than the other. We are trying to reacquaint people."

No new material was announced at this time but the possibility exists after this tour is complete that they may record a new release.

Other news at the press conference regarded the re-issuing of 14 Genesis studio albums in three stages during 2007. All the releases will be SACD/DVD double disc sets featuring newly re-mastered 5.1 surround sound and stereo mixes. The release schedule is as follows:

March 2007: A Trick Of The Tail (1976), Wind & Wuthering (1977), …And Then There Were Three…(1978), Duke (1980) Abacab (1981)

June/July 2007: Genesis(1983), Invisible Touch(1986), We Can't Dance (1991), Calling All Stations(1997)

Late 2007/Early 2008: Trespass (1970), Nursery Cryme (1971), Foxtrot (1972 ), Selling England By The Pound (1973), The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway(1974)