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Rowdies4ever
13 Jun 2007, 10:14 PM
i always thought baseball came from cricketNo. Think rather of cricket as baseball's older brother.
Baseball does come from rounders but the baseball game that developed in America bears little resemblance to rounders today.
Rowdies4ever
13 Jun 2007, 10:17 PM
as long as it's not franchises, that word makes me angry :DAgreed. Soulless corporations love the word "franchise". It's the death of true sports fandom. Who the f_ck wants to cheer for a "franchise"? I don't care if the word is accurate from a business point of view; from a fan point of view the word is horrid. Call them clubs or teams or sides but not "franchises".
Rowdies4ever
13 Jun 2007, 10:23 PM
Can we have one sport in the world that isn't americanized garbage and turned to utter shite like the NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL, etc. etc.No; that would be "unAmerican". We must turn soccer into a soulless copy of all other North American McSports franchise marketing entities; if it is good enough for McDonald's and KFC and Wall Street, it is good enough for McSoccer fans. We cannot allow McAmerican McSports McFans from having any choice in the matter. They must all be nothing more than consumers, first, last, and always. Fans are not welcome.
Benedict XVI
13 Jun 2007, 11:04 PM
people call american sports teams clubs.
lighten up, folks.
OKTerrific
13 Jun 2007, 11:47 PM
people call american sports teams clubs.
lighten up, folks.
Mostly baseball.
Benedict XVI
13 Jun 2007, 11:53 PM
Mostly baseball.
true.
Chicago Bears are officially the Chicago Bears Football Club, Inc.
Cashcleaner
15 Jun 2007, 05:47 PM
Except that baseball was a modified version of rounders (invented by the brits) and American Football is a variant of rugby... :D
Wasn't it the Irish that developed rounders? I'd agree that there are obvious similarities, but I'd say Baseball has truly developed as it's own sport. I'll say the same for Rugby and North American Football as well. But I know what you mean. Even Ice Hockey has it's obvious roots with European Field Hockey.
FijiUnited
15 Jun 2007, 11:35 PM
true.
Chicago Bears are officially the Chicago Bears Football Club, Inc.
A lot of NHL teams refer to themselves as clubs too.
VTunited
18 Jun 2007, 07:40 PM
Can we have one sport in the world that isn't americanized garbage and turned to utter shite like the NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL, etc. etc.
YES YOU CAN! PLAY CRICKET!
WelshCelt
22 Jun 2007, 11:24 AM
Wasn't it the Irish that developed rounders?
Can't be, its not violent enough.
crazypete13
22 Jun 2007, 09:06 PM
No. Think rather of cricket as baseball's older brother.
Baseball does come from rounders but the baseball game that developed in America bears little resemblance to rounders today.
So Football and Rugby are brothers then - that makes American and Canadian football what - nephews?
Rowdies4ever
22 Jun 2007, 09:46 PM
So Football and Rugby are brothers then - that makes American and Canadian football what - nephews?Well, technically, rugby is the older brother, if you want to look at it that way. But American and Canadian gridiron are most close to each other, so I would consider them to be brothers, and rugby to be their parent.
Gridiron developed out of rugby (so in that sense rugby is the parent), but this happened at an early point in rugby's evolution. It's one reason why we call touchdowns, "touch downs" even though gridiron no longer requires players to touch the ball down. It's a holdover term from rugby.
Canadian gridiron held on to a lot of the rugby aspects of the game longer (they even called their governing bodies rugby unions for a long time), but they always ended up adopting American gridiron ideas (like the forward pass), sooner or later, so that the two games are now very similar.
Rowdies4ever
22 Jun 2007, 09:56 PM
Wasn't it the Irish that developed rounders? I'd agree that there are obvious similarities, but I'd say Baseball has truly developed as it's own sport. I'll say the same for Rugby and North American Football as well. But I know what you mean. Even Ice Hockey has it's obvious roots with European Field Hockey.Rounders was played in both Britain and Ireland. It was one of those amorphous ancestral games without any obvious origin (it was also sometimes called baseball; the names were interchangeable). There are people who theorize that the Irish immigrants to the USA in the 19th century preferred rounders to cricket, and that they helped switch Americans from playing cricket to playing the various ancestral forms of baseball/rounders/townball, etc. Maybe.
When the Gaelic Athletic Association was formed, though, one of the first sports they sponsored was rounders, along with hurling and gaelic football. GAA rounders apparently has different rules from the version of rounders played in England. But they are both pretty similar to each other, so I understand, and very different from modern baseball.
SideshowBob
26 Jun 2007, 11:25 AM
people call american sports teams clubs.
lighten up, folks.
Seriously. Callign our teams "clubs" doesn't strike me as Eurosnobery at all. It doesn't even strike me as European. It's perfectly normal in America to call our sports teams -- of any sport -- "clubs". I know I do it all the time referring to, say, baseball teams.
peabrainedidiot
26 Jun 2007, 11:35 AM
Seriously. Callign our teams "clubs" doesn't strike me as Eurosnobery at all. It doesn't even strike me as European. It's perfectly normal in America to call our sports teams -- of any sport -- "clubs". I know I do it all the time referring to, say, baseball teams.
agree, the only thing snobby is telling other people what they should or shouldn't call teams