The Official Torneo Apertura Comex 2003 Predicition Thread

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TORNEO APERTURA COMEX 2003 CONTEST STATUTES

Eligibility for the Contest

Article 1
Only Big Soccer Members are allowed to participate in the contest.

Article 2
Each contestant must pay a nonrefundable fee in order to be eligible for the contest.

§ 1
The entrance fee was set at 9 USD and shall be sent to the Onion Bag before the start of the regular season or unless otherwise told by the Contest Committee.

Duration of the Contest

Article 3
The contest will begin the first week of the Mexican League Regular season and end the last week of the Mexican League regular season

§ 1
The Mexican League regular season consist of 19 weeks

Prediction Due Dates

Article 4
Contestants shall post their predications no later then 1 pm CT of each saturday unless told otherwise by the Committee.

§1
Contestants are expected to submit their predications for each week regardless if a game a postponed for a future date.

§2
Unless a game is scheduled for an earlier date, contestants must submit their predications according to Article 4 §1 of the Torneo Apertura Comex 2003 Contest Statutes.

Point System

Article 5
The contestant with the most points at the end of the regular season or 19th week wins the contest.

§ 1
1 point is accumulated if the result is in your favor (win, tie, or lose).

§ 2
2 points are accumulated the marker is in your favor (actual score).

Tie Breaker

Article 6
In case 2 or more contestants accumulate the same amount of points, a tie breaking system shall be implemented to ensure one winner.

§ 1
A designated member shall receive all the predictions via PM day before the 1st leg of the quarterfinal (or reclassification) match. The designated member shall post all the predictions an hour before kickoff.

§ 2
The designated member shall be an ex contestant or elected member.

Contest Committee

Article 7
A Contest Committee shall consist of 3 contestants and 2 elected members, which shall be chosen at a further date after each contestant’s eligibility is finalized and considered valid.

§ 1
The Committee shall have the power to grant leniency and allow special requests at the consensus of the group.

§ 2
The 2 elected members shall in no way, shape, or form have special interest other than overseeing the contest itself.

Unforeseeable Circumstances

Article 8
The Committee shall have power to remedy any unforeseen event.

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THREAD RULES

1. Only contestants and elected members are allowed to posts.

2. Under no circumstance is there to be any dialogue in this thread. ONLY predictions and official news with respects to postponements.

3. The thread shall be locked 2 hours before the start of the week and unlocked an hour after the final game of the week.

4. Contestants shall copy and paste the week's fixtures from this thread ensuring a standardized system.

example:

Week
Date
Marker Home Score - Score Visitor Marker

This is how it should look;

Week 1
August 3rd
L/PUMAS/0 -- 2/AMERICA/W

Calender

Jornada 1
2 y 3 de agosto
LOCAL VISITANTE
Necaxa vs. San Luis
Guadalajara vs. Santos
Tigres vs. Jaguares
Cruz Azul vs. Monterrey
Veracruz vs. UAG
Irapuato vs. Morelia
Querétaro vs. Pachuca
Puebla vs. Atlas
Toluca vs. Atlante
UNAM vs. América

Jornada 2
9 y 10 de agosto
LOCAL VISITANTE
Jaguares vs. Toluca
Atlante vs. Guadalajara
Pachuca vs. Tigres
Monterrey vs. Veracruz
San Luis vs. Puebla
UAG vs. Irapuato
Atlas vs. UNAM
Santos vs. Necaxa
América vs. Cruz Azul
Morelia vs. Querétaro

Jornada 3
16 y 17 de agosto
LOCAL VISITANTE
Necaxa vs. Atlante
Guadalajara vs. Jaguares
Tigres vs. Morelia
Cruz Azul vs. Atlas
UAG vs. Monterrey
Irapuato vs. Querétaro
UNAM vs. San Luis
Puebla vs. Santos
Toluca vs. Pachuca
Veracruz vs. América

Jornada 4
23 y 24 de agosto
LOCAL VISITANTE
Morelia vs. Toluca
Jaguares vs. Necaxa
Atlante vs. Puebla
Pachuca vs. Guadalajara
Monterrey vs. Irapuato
San Luis vs. Cruz Azul
Atlas vs. Veracruz
Querétaro vs. Tigres
Santos vs. UNAM
América vs. UAG

Jornada 5
30 y 31 de agosto
LOCAL VISITANTE
Cruz Azul vs. Santos
Necaxa vs. Pachuca
Toluca vs. Querétaro
Puebla vs. Jaguares
UNAM vs. Atlante
Irapuato vs. tigres
UAG vs. Atlas
Monterrey vs. América
Guadalajara vs. Morelia
Veracruz vs. San Luis

Jornada 6
6 y 7 de septiembre
LOCAL VISITANTE
Atlante vs. Cruz Azul
Tigres vs. Toluca
Pachuca vs. Puebla
Jaguares vs. UNAM
Atlas vs. Monterrey
Querétaro vs. Guadalajara
Santos vs. Veracruz
América vs. Irapuato
San Luis vs. UAG
Morelia vs. Necaxa

Jornada 7
13 y 14 de septiembre
LOCAL VISITANTE
Necaxa vs. Querétaro
Guadalajara vs. Tigres
UNAM vs. Pachuca
Monterrey vs. San Luis
Cruz Azul vs. Jaguares
Veracruz vs. Atlante
UAG vs. Santos
Irapuato vs. Toluca
Puebla vs. Morelia
América vs. Atlas

Jornada 8
20 y 21 de septiembre
LOCAL VISITANTE
Atlante vs. UAG
Tigres vs. Necaxa
Pachuca vs. Cruz Azul
San Luis vs. América
Morelia vs. UNAM
Jaguares vs. Veracruz
Atlas vs. Irapuato
Querétaro vs. Puebla
Santos vs. Monterrey
Toluca vs. Guadalajara

Jornada 9
(Doble) 24 y 25 de septiembre
LOCAL VISITANTE
Necaxa vs. Toluca
Monterrey vs. Atlante
Cruz Azul vs. Morelia
UAG vs. Jaguares
Irapuato vs. Guadalajara
Atlas vs. San Luis
UNAM vs. Querétaro
Puebla vs. Tigres
América vs. Santos
Veracruz vs. Pachuca

Jornada 10
27 y 28 de septiembre
LOCAL VISITANTE
Guadalajara vs. Necaxa
Jaguares vs. Monterrey
Atlante vs. América
Tigres vs. UNAM
Pachuca vs. UAG
San Luis vs. Irapuato
Querétaro vs. Cruz Azul
Santos vs. Atlas
Toluca vs. Puebla
Morelia vs. Veracruz

Jornada 11
4 y 5 de octubre
LOCAL VISITANTE
UNAM vs. Toluca
Monterrey vs. Pachuca
San Luis vs. Santos
Cruz Azul vs. Tigres
Veracruz vs. Querétaro
UAG vs. Morelia
Irapuato vs. Necaxa
Atlas vs. Atlante
Puebla vs. Guadalajara
América vs. Jaguares

Jornada 12
11 y 12 de octubre
LOCAL VISITANTE
Necaxa vs. Puebla
Morelia vs. Monterrey
Guadalajara vs. UNAM
Atlante vs. San Luis
Tigres vs. Veracruz
Pachuca vs. América
Jaguares vs. Atlas
Querétaro vs. UAG
Santos vs. Irapuato
Toluca vs. Cruz Azul

Jornada 13
18 y 19 de octubre
LOCAL VISITANTE
Monterrey vs. Querétaro
San Luis vs. Jaguares
Cruz Azul vs. Guadalajara
UAG vs. Tigres
Irapuato vs. Puebla
Atlas vs. Pachuca
Santos vs. Atlante
América vs. Morelia
UNAM vs. Necaxa
Veracruz vs. Toluca

Jornada 14
(Doble) 22 y 23 de octubre
LOCAL VISITANTE
Jaguares vs. Santos
Necaxa vs. Cruz Azul
Guadalajara vs. Veracruz
Atlante vs. Irapuato
Tigres vs. Monterrey
Pachuca vs. San Luis
Querétaro vs. América
Puebla vs. UNAM
Toluca vs. UAG
Morelia vs. Atlas

Jornada 15
25 y 26 de octubre
LOCAL VISITANTE
Cruz Azul vs. Puebla
San Luis vs. Morelia
Monterrey vs. Toluca
Atlante vs. Jaguares
Irapuato vs. UNAM
América vs. Tigres
Santos vs. Pachuca
Atlas vs. Querétaro
UAG vs. Guadalajara
Veracruz vs. Necaxa

Jornada 16
1 y 2 de noviembre
LOCAL VISITANTE
Jaguares vs. Irapuato
Querétaro vs. San Luis
Tigres vs. Atlas
Puebla vs. Veracruz
Pachuca vs. Atlante
Toluca vs. América
Necaxa vs. UAG
Morelia vs. Santos
Guadalajara vs. Monterrey
UNAM vs. Cruz Azul

Jornada 17
8 y 9 de noviembre
LOCAL VISITANTE
San Luis vs. Tigres
Atlante vs. Morelia
Veracruz vs. UNAM
UAG vs. Puebla
Irapuato vs. Cruz Azul
Atlas vs. Toluca
Santos vs. Querétaro
Monterrey vs. Necaxa
América vs. Guadalajara
Jaguares vs. Pachuca

Jornada 18
15 y 16 de noviembre
LOCAL VISITANTE
Necaxa vs. América
Guadalajara vs. Atlas
Tigres vs. Santos
UNAM vs. UAG
Cruz Azul vs. Veracruz
Irapuato vs. Pachuca
Querétaro vs. Atlante
Puebla vs. Monterrey
Toluca vs. San Luis
Morelia vs. Jaguares

Jornada 19
22 y 23 de noviembre
LOCAL VISITANTE
Atlante vs. Tigres
Pachuca vs. Morelia
Monterrey vs. UNAM
San Luis vs. Guadalajara
Jaguares vs. Querétaro
UAG vs. Cruz Azul
Atlas vs. Necaxa
Santos vs. Toluca
América vs. Puebla
Veracruz vs. Irapuato

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The following matches will be postponed. No specific date just yet.

Cruz Azul-Monterrey
Puebla-Atlas
UNAM-América

http://el-universal.com.mx/pls/impreso/noticia.html?id_nota=158900&tabla=notas

[efernandez9]

NOTE: JORNADA #1
PREDICT all 10 games, even tho 3 games are already postponed for date TBA

the same for any Othere Jornada con juegos aplazados por cualquier motivo, creo entender que siempre se debe votar por 10 juegos.

RDL: idea for tie brakers, predict the top goal scorer for .5 of a point?

[Levante]

I'd like to suggest that we also sticky a dialogue thread for all that good "smack talk." :D

You can add the sticky after the Gold Cup is over.

[efernandez9]

great idea - I second that!


remember there is also a Club section for individual games and such

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Alright gentlemen... we have 6 confirmed contestants and all joined in that order

ricv56
monkeyboy2000
coster
sidspaceman
rdl674
levante.


***we need to elect 3 contestants on that that committee.

I personally dont care if we do it out in the open, or have a secret ballot and send a PM to onion bag with out candidates. I also dont care if the first 3 to join fill up those positions.. but we need to do this fast.. because there are some issues at hand that need to be resolved. A couple members have PMed me asking for the deadline to be extended 2 weeks into the season. Some are out of town and others are out of the country.

all paid contestants need to decide how they want to vote and lets try to vote BY sunday at 6 PM CT

***we will also need to elect 2 non-contestants onto that committee

we need 2 3rd party members on that committee. They can not be contestants. they have to be nuetral on the matter.

electing these members is not a priority just yet.

after the contest committe is established with the 3 contestants.. and when they decide on the extended deadline issue and after we have all possible contestants eligible... then we can elect them..

every paid contestant can choose or recommend a name... after all names are gathered.. we will have a ballot..

for example.. If contestant john doe wants to recommend mickey mouse onto the ballot... then mickey mouse is a candidate for the 3rd party member candidacy.

MY 2 choices for 3rd party committe members are

* Thomas Flannigan
* Crazy Yank

If by chance one of them cant do it then my 3rd choice would be

* Alex_1

[ricv56]

personally, I think pretty much anybody who's on the list would do fine on that kinda committee. The only thing I can think of that would preclude someone would be one of the members themselves thinking/knowing they wouldn't be able to keep up with some of the minutiae or whatever, so if someone wants to take themselves out of consideration, that wouldn't be a problem.

That said, I think something arbitrary would be most effective, like the three most senior members or the first three who signed up or paid, or whoever sent the most money.

As far as third-party folks, I'm on board with Thomas Flannigan, Crazy Yank and Alex_1 as well.

ricv56

[sidspaceman]

My third-party nomination would be Chaski.

[Levante]

We need to vote by today...let's do it soon because there is a lot of soccer to be watched today.....Mexico-Brasil, Osasuna-Pachuca, Juventus-Barcelona, America- Man U...etc. etc.

Should we have a poll and only let the existing 6 participants plus the onion bag vote for three committee members? Once we have the twenty one votes tallied up, those with the most votes will be on the committee?
OR we can also PM the results to one of our third party nominations.

What do you guys think?

By the way.....my third party nominations are all of the above. I would also like to add Concacaf to that list.

[sidspaceman]

I'm voting for

ricv56
monkeyboy2000

Reason being they were the first ones to step up to the plate.

My 3rd choice is RDl since he came up with the game.

[Monkeyboy2000]

Sounds good to me :)

[Levante]

Yes....RDL, Ric and that one guy that hid behind his sister's coach before Blanco took that PK against Croatia. :D

[ricv56]

I won't vote for myself, but I'm cool with being on if it shakes out that way. My votes go to Monkeyboy2000 and Coster for being on board quick, second and third, I think; and rdl for coming up with the idea.

ricv56

[Monkeyboy2000]

Originally posted by Levante
Yes....RDL, Ric and that one guy that hid behind his sister's coach before Blanco took that PK against Croatia. :D

damn you :p

[sidspaceman]

Well I guess this means that Monkeyboy and RDl are in and one more vote for Ric and we have our committee.

[Coster]

Originally posted by sidspaceman
Well I guess this means that Monkeyboy and RDl are in and one more vote for Ric and we have our committee. I'm down with that. They get my votes too.

[Coster]

Alright kids, I will be leaving town tomorrow night and will not be back until Sunday so I need to give you my picks now because I don't know if I'll be able to get to a computer by the time I leave. Here they are:

Week 1
August 2nd and 3rd
Home --- Away
W/Necaxa/3 -- 0/San Luis/L
L/Guadalajara/1 -- 2/Santos/W
W/Tigres/2 -- 0/Jaguares/L
D/Cruz Azul/2 -- 2/Monterrey/D
W/Veracruz/3 -- 1/UAG/L
L/Irapuato/1 -- 2/Morelia/W
D/Querétaro/1 -- 1/Pachuca/D
D/Puebla/0 -- 0/Atlas/D
W/Toluca/4 -- 2/Atlante/L
L/UNAM/0 -- 1/América/W

[Levante]

Originally posted by Coster
I'm down with that. They get my votes too.

So I guess that settles it. Rdl, Monkeyboy, and Ric, you guys are our committee members. Now we need to decide on the outside non-participating committee member.

[ricv56]

Originally posted by Levante
So I guess that settles it. Rdl, Monkeyboy, and Ric, you guys are our committee members. Now we need to decide on the outside non-participating committee member.
does this mean i can get kickbacks?? :)

ricv56