Germany: United States [R]

[footyfan1]

National pride or not, they can't deprive the team of their support just because Klinsmann decided not to call up Wörns. That is to say, of course they can! But in that case Dortmund should be handled like Florence was by the Italian FA: No more international game for a long long time.


Dortmund fans will support the team. Although I expect Klinsmann himself to draw loud whistles.

[footyfan1]

Well, I don't think I used the word destroyed, but I do think we will look like a US team of 8-10 years ago.

The defense will be solid, and the midfield will work hard but the quality isn't there to create and our forwards will starve.

The player who can really show a lot for himself here is Convey. OK Bob, you like playing in the middle. Here you go.

Many of our fans are really discounting Germany way too much, and giving way too much credit to the players we will have there running the show.

I just think we are in for a reality check.


THOSE FANS are in for a reality check. I know what our team is and what it can do.

I also know this is a USA "B" side going up against a German team that should be hell-bent on restoring its pride.

It will not be pretty for us USA fans, but anyone should be able to see this coming.

Now if the Germans have trouble with this USA "B" side, then they really do have problems.

But I expect a Germany win by at least two goals, maybe three.

Not because Germany are that much better than the USA. I'm not saying that at all. If it were our "A" team going out there, I'd expect one hell of a match.

I just think the factors of it being a USA "B" team and Germany wanting to restore its pride after the way they bent over for the Italians will swing things in Germany's favor.

[snoooop]

You should not forget that it is ONE Game !!

In one game Bayern can loose against an 5th division team and Chelsea against Untertupfingen, one game has nothing to say .

Many important german players are also out for the game. frings, deisler..

i do not count on that one game, i see the whole last 2 years and there was exellent games and some of the badest games ive ever seen.

i think 2010 - 2012 will germany back at that level they played the 40 years before the new yearthousend begans or beguns or begins? whats the right word??


ive heard that the USA called up Benny Feilhaber in the sqad.. he plays for Hamburgs amateur team!?

he has an austrian grandfather.. so uhm.. can he really play football??:D :D :D

[Dead Fingers]

ive heard that the USA called up Benny Feilhaber in the sqad.. he plays for Hamburgs amateur team!?

he has an austrian grandfather.. so uhm.. can he really play football??:D :D :D

he is also part Brazilian. I know he was born in Rio

[snoooop]

oh yes.

i informed me, he is born in Rio de Janeiro and was votet to the "Talent of the Year 2005" in the USA.
He played in 18 Games for Hamburgs Amateur-Team and shoot 1 Goal.
2 Yellow Cards
he played 1302 minutes

the last 4 games he played the full 90mins. so maybe he is next year in the A-Team of Hamburg

http://transfermarkt.de/bilder/spielerfotos/s_33118_2005_1.jpg

he looks like a member of the Beatles :eek:

[The Old Lady Hertha]

Deisler out, Frings out, Hanke out...

Now, Huth will be staying at Chelsea

[Jagermeister]

THOSE FANS are in for a reality check. I know what our team is and what it can do.

I also know this is a USA "B" side going up against a German team that should be hell-bent on restoring its pride.

It will not be pretty for us USA fans, but anyone should be able to see this coming.

Now if the Germans have trouble with this USA "B" side, then they really do have problems.

But I expect a Germany win by at least two goals, maybe three.

Not because Germany are that much better than the USA. I'm not saying that at all. If it were our "A" team going out there, I'd expect one hell of a match.

I just think the factors of it being a USA "B" team and Germany wanting to restore its pride after the way they bent over for the Italians will swing things in Germany's favor.

I didn't doubt you got it, if you my posts weren't clear. It's just a general consensus I have seen on postings.

As more US players have been suspended/dropped out to injury, this has started to change a bit.

I see Huth is now staying with Chelsea. Damn, that hurts the US if you ask me. Wolff and Johnson would have been able to torch him on the counter with any service at all. Oh well.

Then again (Mertzsacker?) from Hannover isn't exactly a speed demon from the mathces I have watched.

Bobby Convey has nothing to lose here. He can look like a hero and really elevate his status, or people will just say he has to stay out wide to be effective. At least Mastro is playing.

Don't have to worry about any Jeremies being ignored with him in there.
If Gibbs plays 45, that won't be an issue either. At least hose two guys have bight. (Olsen does too, but it is more apt to be a red card, and he will probably look real overmatched out there)

[Dead Fingers]

article from Soccernet (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=362287&root=us&cc=5901)

[snoooop]

All them US Players have German Ancestors :eek:

Keller
Hahnemann
Wolff
Klein

[poorvi]

Does anyone see Klose's smooth and marvellous flick of his right foot that pounded the ball into the net of Nurnburg last Saturday?

No one in the 2002 Germany team has achieved as great an overall improvement for a player as Klose.

I don't know if putting Owomoyela is right. The Bremen defence is not in their best forms lately. Is Friedrich in good shape? Or Jansen a better alternative.

I was thinking the same. No one from the WC 2002 team has shown any improvement.
2002-2006
Kahn 2002 > 2006
Klose 2002 < 2006
Ballack 2002 = 2006
It is difficult to say, because he was in top form in that competition. I think he will rise to the ocassion here too.
Metzelder 2002 >> 2006
Schneider 2002 > 2006
Frings 2002 = 2006
Asamoah 2002 = 2006

The only player who has shown any improvement is Klose.

[Morpheus1271]

All them US Players have German Ancestors :eek:

Keller
Hahnemann
Wolff
Klein

I probably have a german ancestor.

AND I'M NOT GERMAN!!!

[Dead Fingers]

German is a fairly common ancestry for Americans
http://www.lmic.state.mn.us/datanetweb/php/census2000/mapLegendUSAnc.phtml

http://www.factmonster.com/ipka/A0762137.html
(not sure on the quality of this one...but.....)

[snoooop]

I probably have a german ancestor.

AND I'M NOT GERMAN!!!


and....where is the problem?? its just thats the names make sence in our language like Spielberg or Hoffmann/Hofmann/Hoffman/Hofman

We all know that Americans are Africans, Europeans and Asians + some of the Indians and nothing else.
i just told that they have german ancestors, i do not see there any problem :confused:

I have danisch and senegal(africa) ancestors from my mothers side and my father is german :eek:

but it has nothing to do with that game.

["Eisenfuß" Eilts]

I don't know if putting Owomoyela is right.
Is Friedrich in good shape? Or Jansen a better alternative.

Yes, from performance aspects Owomoyela should get a break.
It isn´t clever from Klinsmann to bring players,
when they are not in good shape,
but he did that already very often.

Perhaps he does it in the test matches
to see the deficits of them,
don´t know.

[F96]

I probably have a german ancestor.

AND I'M NOT GERMAN!!!

Yes you are.

[scarshins]

I have a German last name.

But I'm US of American.

Lots of Germans came to the US in the 1800s, especially around 1820. Many settled in pennsylvania. They stayed, to a great extent, their own little German-American island, marrying other Germans. Later many of them moved to the Midwest US- Indiana, Ohio, Iowa, Wisconsin, Minnesota. My grandfather on that side is from Indiana. They gradually lost the insularity and married non-Germans, which has been going on now for over a century.

I'm about as German as Budweiser. :)

[ForeverRed]

Makes sense, when Europeans first started to settle into the Americas, behind the English, German was the second highest nationality that started out in the United States.

[snoooop]

I'm about as German as Budweiser. :)

and Heinz Ketchup :D

I make my money with selling urbanwear and the New Era Cap Company was foundet by an German, wich is today a "real" american brand, with the Yankees and Dodgers Logos on it.
Or Levis Jeans, Levi Strauss was an jewish german.

But i think thats the modern world, when you look at Germany there live over 3 Mio turkish people + many polish and russians, wich you can see at our Nationalteam.

Polish ancestor players
borowski
klose
podolski
trochwoski
sinkiewicz

[Jagermeister]

Yes you are.


Sprechen Sie Deutsch Fraulein?


Bitte Baby.

["Eisenfuß" Eilts]

http://www.factmonster.com/ipka/A0762137.html
(not sure on the quality of this one...but.....)

Could be true, found out other sites,
where is reported about 45 million people of German descent in the USA.

But i am sure, you find this cultural mix in nearly every country.