Im digusted...

[benni...]

Im going back home.... I cannot live with this... what about you.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5137581991288263801&q=loose+change

This video is an hour and twenty minutes long, but its well worth it, and very informing.

[StrikerCW]

Don't have the patience to sit down and watch this now, but have seen similiar things on the topic of the two towers, mostly ridiculous.

I did look up some information on the film and there are some interesting things about it, I will look.

[Howard Zinn]

What is that before I click on it?

[benni...]

It basically reveals the US officials for who they really are in regards to 9/11. They show how the US higher powers killed all those people in the Twin towers, all for money... around $10 billion worth of gold, that belonged to other countries.

The one part that stood out for me was when a civilian tried to go into the tunnels underneath the buildings, and how he saw trucks, and cars full of Gold, and US Military personel threatened to shoot him if he didnt go away.

There is a lot more to it.

[Achtung]

I remain skeptical about documentaries like that one, although I wouldn't totally rule out the premise. It's a bit of a stretch at best.

I'll keep a close eye on this thread when I can... I have the feeling it'll get out of hand.

[Labdarugo]

And the CIA invented AIDS. Yup. And the Apollo program? All fake. And who put the ball in the Germans' net? Ole-Gunnar Solskjaer? Nope. Ottmar Hitzfeld. Uh-huh. Why else would he have taken off Matheus? ...





:rolleyes:

[prymetyme]

Yeah and the goverment put crack in the bronx, clinton didnt cheat on his wife, nixon was framed.

PS. Clinton shouldnt of got Bin Laden in the 90's but he didnt pull the trigger. It could have been prevented. Well maybe.

[benni...]

Whats with you?

Are there anythings in that video that arent true that you know of? I mean, why havnt the US officials answered some of those questions? I have no doubt in my mind that things like this happen... infact I think they happen more often then not.

[Republic of Mancunia]

Think I saw this one before (recognise the guy's voice) and spent most of my time laughing. It asked asked many a question about 9/11 and came up with some pretty strange answers to suit the documentary makers agenda.

A few things I remember from that one....

Question... Why is it that the only possible video of the plane crashing into the pentagon, (that was taken from a gas station's CCTV) was seized by the FBI?

Obvious answer: It was an important piece of evidence regarding a major terrorist incident. You can't let Martha and Peggy who work at the gas station get their hands on it and sell it to the highest bidder.

Documentary Conclusion: A plane never crashed into the pentagon.

Question..... Why is it that no engine was found in the wreckage at the pentagon?

Obvious answer... It probably was, it just wasn't shown on tv.

Documentary Conclusion: A plane never crashed into the pentagon.

Question..... What was in that big crate wrapped in blue plastic that they took away from the pentagon?

Obvious answer..... Perhaps the jet engine that they just reffered to and they don't want just anyone gaining access the possible evidence.

Documentary Conclusion: They're trying to hide something.

Question..... Why does it appear that a series of "explosions" take place in the WTC a few floors below the collapsing building as it falls?

Obvious answer....... The building was collapsing from the inside first and each floor was falling from the inside first, collapsing on top of each other.

Documentary Conclusion: It was a bomb, the government did it!!

Towards the end they claimed that many of the terrorists are actually alive and well and are working as pilots for Saudi airlines and started quoting Bin Laden as supporting evidence when he denies any knowledge or involvement of the attack when the film-makers try to pin it on the government. :rolleyes:

To top it all off, one of the last lines used in the film was to call the government "tyrants".......wonder if this "documentary" had any political motives? Honestly I've never seen anything more ridiculous.

[Achtung]

PS. Clinton shouldnt of got Bin Laden in the 90's but he didnt pull the trigger. It could have been prevented. Well maybe.

This was mentioned in the Politics thread. I called bullshit there and I have to say the same again.

[prymetyme]

lol do be honest i didnt watch it. im exhausted and am really tied, dont expect much from me lol. i was just turned off from the fact that it was another farenheight 911. thats it. sorry mate.

EDIT- I probably shouldnt leave that part in, i'll switch it.

[Howard Zinn]

I'll keep a close eye on this thread when I can... I have the feeling it'll get out of hand.


Achtung=Swami. :eek: :D

[Achtung]

Whats with you?

Are there anythings in that video that arent true that you know of? I mean, why havnt the US officials answered some of those questions? I have no doubt in my mind that things like this happen... infact I think they happen more often then not.

Benni, you have to admit that there is a lot of truth-stretching going on and questions asked that may not have been answered publicly, but can still very well have answers that have been established.

I'm as skeptical of the motives of this administration as anyone. But accusations like that need more than circumstantial evidence. And that goes for both sides (see my response above to the Clinton-Bin Laden link).

[Achtung]

lol do be honest i didnt watch it. im exhausted and am really tied, dont expect much from me lol. i was just turned off from the fact that it was another farenheight 911. thats it. sorry mate.

EDIT- I probably shouldnt leave that part in, i'll switch it.

Even F9/11 tried a little better to connect the facts. Most of these documentaries have trouble doing even that.

[benni...]

Think I saw this one before (recognise the guy's voice) and spent most of my time laughing. It asked asked many a question about 9/11 and came up with some pretty strange answers to suit the documentary makers agenda.

A few things I remember from that one....

Question... Why is it that the only possible video of the plane crashing into the pentagon, (that was taken from a gas station's CCTV) was seized by the FBI?

Obvious answer: It was an important piece of evidence regarding a major terrorist incident. You can't let Martha and Peggy who work at the gas station get their hands on it and sell it to the highest bidder.

Documentary Conclusion: A plane never crashed into the pentagon.
So why havnt they let the people see, or acknowledged any of the footage on the tapes? The tapes taht were seized minutes after the explision.


Question..... Why is it that no engine was found in the wreckage at the pentagon?

Obvious answer... It probably was, it just wasn't shown on tv.

Documentary Conclusion: A plane never crashed into the pentagon.So how do you explain that hole, and a big 757 Beoing crashing into it? The hole was relatively smaller than a 757. Not to mention, the engines didnt leave any damage.

Question..... What was in that big crate wrapped in blue plastic that they took away from the pentagon?

Obvious answer..... Perhaps the jet engine that they just reffered to and they don't want just anyone gaining access the possible evidence.

Documentary Conclusion: They're trying to hide something.What was in the crate then? Why cant we know?

Question..... Why does it appear that a series of "explosions" take place in the WTC a few floors below the collapsing building as it falls?

Obvious answer....... The building was collapsing from the inside first and each floor was falling from the inside first, collapsing on top of each other.

Documentary Conclusion: It was a bomb, the government did it!!How do you explain the secondary explosions, or the numerous explosions after the plane hit, that people heard.
Towards the end they claimed that many of the terrorists are actually alive and well and are working as pilots for Saudi airlines and started quoting Bin Laden as supporting evidence when he denies any knowledge or involvement of the attack when the film-makers try to pin it on the government. :rolleyes:

To top it all off, one of the last lines used in the film was to call the government "tyrants".......wonder if this "documentary" had any political motives? Honestly I've never seen anything more ridiculous.Explain to me what was happening under ground with the Gold that people saw.

[benni...]

Benni, you have to admit that there is a lot of truth-stretching going on and questions asked that may not have been answered publicly, but can still very well have answers that have been established.

I'm as skeptical of the motives of this administration as anyone. But accusations like that need more than circumstantial evidence. And that goes for both sides (see my response above to the Clinton-Bin Laden link).

There maybe truth stretching, but things would be just easier, if they answered the questions.

For example.. How do you find a passport in the rubble on the streets after the attack, but you cant find the recorder box that is made of tougher material?

Now, Im not saying I believe 100% of what those film makers put out, but they questions they asked, make you think a little harder. What did happen to the Engine? What did happen to the rest of the 23 minutes recording of a phone conversation between a steward and the authorities, in which only 4 minutes were released to the press.

It makes you think...

[Bluto11]

Explain to me what was happening under ground with the Gold that people saw.


could have been being stored there? not sure really, hadn't heard of it before. I just googled "9/11 gold" and found an article that says there were huge vaults under the twin towers that stored gold and silver. when a civilian walks into an area where there is a ton of gold or something they are probably in an area where they should not be, which would explain the reaction of a guard saying they would shoot them.

i don't have and hour and 20 minutes to watch the whole clip. did the civilian see them loading the gold before the planes hit? after?

[gazza]

I watched that clip last week. What a waste of time. I'm waiting for the connection that JFK was actually flying the plane that hit the pentagon...oh wait, there was no plane. Maybe the gunmen on the grassy knoll shot down the plane...damn......where the hell is Mulder and Scully when I need them.

:rolleyes:

[benni...]

could have been being stored there? not sure really, hadn't heard of it before. I just googled "9/11 gold" and found an article that says there were huge vaults under the twin towers that stored gold and silver. when a civilian walks into an area where there is a ton of gold or something they are probably in an area where they should not be, which would explain the reaction of a guard saying they would shoot them.

i don't have and hour and 20 minutes to watch the whole clip. did the civilian see them loading the gold before the planes hit? after?

The worker, a month or so after the attack, saw a ten wheel truck with the gold loaded on in the back, as well as cars, in a transport tunnel under another building (world trade center 5) but the gold apparantly belonged to world trade center 4. The trucks were moving in a direction away from ground zero.

This is all accordin to the video.

[benni...]

I watched that clip last week. What a waste of time. I'm waiting for the connection that JFK was actually flying the plane that hit the pentagon...oh wait, there was no plane. Maybe the gunmen on the grassy knoll shot down the plane...damn......where the hell is Mulder and Scully when I need them.

:rolleyes:


People around the area, said they didnt see a big 757 boeing. They said they saw a small unmarked plane.

Where are the signs that a big air plane knocked the street lamp poles out of the ground? It looked like it was removed, no damage or sign of a big airplane anywhere.

Where did the airplane go?