Im digusted...

[prymetyme]

one thing i dont get is why people would let this happen, no american is that evil. Where the "missles" came from, and what happened to the planes?

[gazza]

I'm not going to name names, but there are some really, really, really dumb things being said in this thread. I'll leave it at that until my sanity forces me to do otherwise.

Thats what peope who choose to partake in political discusions do. We all profess to be experts in things we know nothing about.:D

[benni...]

I'm not going to name names, but there are some really, really, really dumb things being said in this thread. I'll leave it at that until my sanity forces me to do otherwise.

Might as well let it out now.

I have a feeling its me, but Ill stick to my beliefs. Im not going to let some crap that the govt recklessly made up influence my mind completely.

[prymetyme]

apparently it landed? i find that hard to belive, and them giving me quotes from bin laden very beleiveable

[benni...]

one thing i dont get is why people would let this happen, no american is that evil. Where the "missles" came from, and what happened to the planes?

There are people in the world that ARE that evil. Especially when you dont have to do the dirty work, or have to get your hands dirty.

I dont know, but something that I dont get in the article is why that scientist got fired, when he had contracdicted US govt reports.. because the official release was...

"the plane melted through the heat"

but fact is, the material they used are sturdier than that. Wont melt, under such temperatures.

How the hell could that entire plane disintergrate anyway?

[SirManchester]

Are you trying to tell me The US Govt has something to do with 9/11....plz tell me your not:(

why is that such a hard thing to believe? and also, why is that such a bad thing to believe? It's clearly not.

[prymetyme]

its over, and i dont believe a word. Sure you can go say on the periodic table that titanum cant burn and that back in 1967 someone said that a plane might crash. So 9-11 is Bush's fault. Bush has hiijacked america? This guy is out of his mind. I must say there were parts when I almost belived him but I just cant believe an american would do that.

[SirManchester]

its over, and i dont believe a word. Sure you can go say on the periodic table that titanum cant burn and that back in 1967 someone said that a plane might crash. So 9-11 is Bush's fault. Bush has hiijacked america? This guy is out of his mind. I must say there were parts when I almost belived him but I just cant believe an american would do that.

look man, nobody is telling you to buy this particular piece of propaganda, however, this isn't a farfetched theory, in fact, if you access more reliable and credible sources you'll just maybe take in the information and mold your own opinion on this.
Just don't write it off right away, because that's based on absolutely nothing.

[Stud83]

Well, I have no doubt that the general public does not know the entire truth behind the 9/11 attacks. And there are many various reasons for it.
I also know that the movie's conclusions are mostly bull shit.
Seriously think about it - if the movie's conclusion is right, and it was actually the government's idea to bring down the planes and wtc's, how many people had to have participated in this. Pretty much the entire FBI, CIA, NTSB, demolition crews, airplane pilots, airlines, traffic controlers, Cleveland police force, a bunch of firefighters, the entire Cabinet had to have known and agree to this plan in order to do smth like that, right? How do you envision the planning for it, the processing, the execution?

Benni, the thing that you need to realize is that the government does not tell the public the entire story. Especially in these circumstances. Especially when it's clear that they messed up. But the fact that they are hiding information does not make them responsible for attacks.

[benni...]

its over, and i dont believe a word. Sure you can go say on the periodic table that titanum cant burn and that back in 1967 someone said that a plane might crash. So 9-11 is Bush's fault. Bush has hiijacked america? This guy is out of his mind. I must say there were parts when I almost belived him but I just cant believe an american would do that.

Why is it so hard to believe America is corrupt? I was like you atfirst, till I started reading around, and just seeing the things that go on in the world. People have their own motives/agenda, and when they are determined to do something, they wont let a country of people get in their way.

Someone tell me again why Bush sent troops to Iraq?

[Numquam Moribimur]

Why is it so hard to believe America is corrupt? I was like you atfirst, till I started reading around, and just seeing the things that go on in the world. People have their own motives/agenda, and when they are determined to do something, they wont let a country of people get in their way.

Someone tell me again why Bush sent troops to Iraq?



Oil right ? bc there is so much oil over there and i love paying over $2.OO a gallon :rolleyes:

[gazza]

Someone tell me again why Bush sent troops to Iraq?


Well thats easy, all he cheap oil. Oh wait, I still pay $2.60 a gallon. What was that price back in like '01? Thats right $.99 a gallon. Scratch that one.

[SirManchester]

Someone tell me again why Bush sent troops to Iraq?

Well, because Hussein is an evil evil man and the world would benefit from his removal from power, well Iraq at least...:rolleyes:
In any event, the world is not better off without him, and the country is most certainly not better off without him, in fact Iraq was better off with him in power given what's going on there at the moment.

[SirManchester]

Well thats easy, all he cheap oil. Oh wait, I still pay $2.60 a gallon. What was that price back in like '01? Thats right $.99 a gallon. Scratch that one.

like any well thought out massive plan, it was to secure oil for the future.

[littleman]

like any well thought out massive plan, it was to secure oil for the future.

You're right.

[benni...]

Benni, the thing that you need to realize is that the government does not tell the public the entire story. Especially in these circumstances. Especially when it's clear that they messed up. But the fact that they are hiding information does not make them responsible for attacks.

Never flat out said that I thinkt he Govt. are responsible for the attacks. Even if I did, the fact that they are hiding so much information is what digust me. Yes this is very new to me. I knew the Govt hid things, but lying about so many, significant details.. what are they hiding?

Someone tell me again.. what is with that fake Osama Bin Laden they recorde? The one that was suddenly right handed, 35 pounds overweight, and a rebel against Islamic laws (gold ring)?

[Numquam Moribimur]

Well, because Hussein is an evil evil man and the world would benefit from his removal from power, well Iraq at least...:rolleyes:
In any event, the world is not better off without him, and the country is most certainly not better off without him, in fact Iraq was better off with him in power given what's going on there at the moment.


Right but a man gassing his own people and all is great for the country right .......



why do i have a feeling if i where to ask you whos more "evil" you would say bush .....so don't answer it :p

[Sapphire]

I'm a little disappointed at people believing this utter crap. Isn't there a vast middle ground between being a good little sheep that believes the US government is the ultimate good, and believing that they'd attack US financial and defense centers for gold?? :rolleyes: Seriously, ********. Even the scandalously insular Bush administration has a certain level of checks and balances on it -- if these things are true, there would be a helluva lot more evidence by now. Our nation was gutted after 911; people would be coming forward on this. (I can't believe I entertained the idea long enough to make that argument. And there are dozens more counter-arguments waiting; I just refuse to type them all).

Further, I suppose Clinton orchestrated the Oklahoma city bombings to cover his own ass in his shady financial dealings? I sure you could find someone to give "witness" to something which you could twist to fit that argument. I'll bet you a beer that that documentary exists out there somewhere. There are also "witnesses" that have "proof" about alot of other facets of conspiracy theories related to 9/11, many of them based on racism and bigotry -- what about those? Can't we just dismiss them because their premises are obviously ridiculous? -- I sure as hell do, as I do with this one.

I'm suprised and dissappointed that people believe this stuff, even in part. And I resent it too; it makes people who legitimately question government corruption look loonier by allowing opponents to dump us in the same category: "Don't listen to Bush critics, they think he blew up the WTC for ********s sake". No wonder they think liberals are crazy--here's the proof. :mad:

Seriously, ask questions, be skeptical, but don't be foolish.

[SirManchester]

Right but a man gassing is own people and all is great for the country right .......

Before Hussein you had all these different religious groups put together by the French and British, the country was in shambles and looked like it wouldn't last, Hussein came in power and pretty much said "the only killing will be done by me". He was actually responsible for unifying the country and getting it started. And while I don't agree with his ::hurm:: dictatorial ways...look at the country now, nobody in their right mind will tell you that it's better off than before.

Oh yea, and since it was clear that Iraq had no ties with Al-Quada prior to America's entry, why didn't Bush go after those so called terrorists? With his post-911 agenda, he went on a complete tangent with this one.

[benni...]

Seriously, ask questions, be skeptical, but don't be foolish.

First of all, Im going to say, its your opinion, if your disappointed in us, well ...

Secondly...NEITHER OF US KNOW ALL THE FACTS... so dismissing either side of the story is unfair... even if the video posed questions that the Authorities cannot asnwer (wonder why).

Thirdly what happend to the Air plane that hit the pentagon? Where is,was it?