View Full Version : Jack Warner in trouble with FIFA
Forgive me if this is the wrong forum.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=358816&cc=5901
Perhaps we'll get a new leader for CONCACAF out of this yet.
No, wait, this is FIFA we're dealing with...
sidefootsitter
16 Feb 2006, 04:49 PM
Warner has been found guilty of a conflict of interest after his family's travel agency were given the rights to sell Trinidad and Tobago's entire ticket allocation for the World Cup finals.
There's gambling going on there? I am shocked, I tell you. Shocked.
Allamerican74
16 Feb 2006, 04:51 PM
I think Sven was just telling the sheik the other day that for a small price of £6mil he would be Vice President of FIFA come mid July but it was off the record.
purojogo
16 Feb 2006, 05:00 PM
well, one can only hope....
Jagermeister
16 Feb 2006, 05:46 PM
You guys left out the best part.
FIFA said he turned himself in!
This, after he was criticized by the T&T press and the gov't said it would investigate. Warnar was so incensed by this he went on a verbal rampage in a T&T paper, basically saying FIFA was above the law and he could do what he wished. The gov't couldn't do anything, so shut up and stay out of my business. He crowed about this quite a bit more, the fact that he couldn't be touched, while saying it didn't matter if his family owned the business. He could do as he wished and thumbed his nose at the T&T people.
If you didn't know, tix could only be purchased if you bought the whole travel package at a highlly inflated price. It was hilarious and sad at the same time.
I guess enough people spoke up and this was too blatant for even Sepp to ignore. (Even though I bet he tried)
Thus the most absurd and hilarious and pathetic statement of it all -
Jack Warnar made us aware of this and turned himself in.
...and some people wonder why Warnar is hated and is considered an arrogant crook.
TxFan
16 Feb 2006, 05:50 PM
corruption in soccer. sad, but doesn't surprise me at all...
Nimbus2000
16 Feb 2006, 05:58 PM
corruption in soccer. sad, but doesn't surprise me at all...
Regarding corrupt dictators...He's not done until he's done. We'll see what the actual fallout is.
Sempuukyaku
16 Feb 2006, 08:18 PM
Agreed. Jack Warner has been a complete cancer to CONCACAF. The sooner he's out, the better...period.
MikeR
16 Feb 2006, 08:41 PM
Here's what I don't understand. I know FIFA politics are screwed up. But the US and Mexico dominate CONCACAF, both in terms of quality and success, and in terms of the size of the countries, not to mention what the US brings to the table in terms of commercial and advertising dollars. The US and Mexico really need to try to get rid of this guy. I know that Blatter generally stays in power by getting the votes of non-UEFA confederations, and then in turn supports people like Warner in intra-confederation battles. But come on, Warner is an embarrassment.
The Blind Pig
16 Feb 2006, 08:43 PM
it'd be nice to get a new guy
but it probably wouldn't be a good idea to have that person from mexico or the us
HSEUPASSION
16 Feb 2006, 08:45 PM
Shaun Goater for CONCACAF President
Jabinho
16 Feb 2006, 08:51 PM
Shaun Goater for CONCACAF President
He seems too nice and honest for the job...:o
BTW: A temporary "suspension" for Warner seems like a rather light punishment in this case..
Permanent would be the only way.. Perhaps I'm not understanding "suspension" in the FIFA sense..:rolleyes:
MikeR
16 Feb 2006, 08:55 PM
it'd be nice to get a new guy
but it probably wouldn't be a good idea to have that person from mexico or the us
I haven't thought about that, but I really just meant having the US and Mexico push for a new, more honest guy, even if he's from another country. I hope Bush doesn't have any say, or we'll get stuck with John Bolton, or maybe the next member of the administration to get indicted. :rolleyes:
Jagermeister
16 Feb 2006, 09:17 PM
I haven't thought about that, but I really just meant having the US and Mexico push for a new, more honest guy, even if he's from another country. I hope Bush doesn't have any say, or we'll get stuck with John Bolton, or maybe the next member of the administration to get indicted. :rolleyes:
Democracy - Old Chicago style.
Mexico = 1 vote
US = 1 vote
Guadeloupe = 1 vote
Guyana = 1 vote
Aruba = 1 vote
Surinam = 1 vote
St Lucia = 1 vote
BVI's = one vote
USVI's = one vote
etc.
You get the drift.
Jack pays off his island underbosses with trips and some cash.
He is supposed to improve their footballing infrastructures but the money never seems to get there. When someone on one of these islands involved at the grass roots level asks about the cash, they are criticzed, or fired.
This happened a lot early in Jack's reign. No one asks anymore.
Jack also does some really nice things for people in need when no one else steps up. The T&T youngster who was paralyzed at the U20 qualies come to mind. Paid for medical and helped the family. He has done other things like this and of course these are always highly publicized. Needs that good PR. A good crime boss knows how to milk it.
Jack cares about T&T and then T&T some more. He cares about the money the US and Mexico can bring him. That's it. He regularly tries to force the hand of the T&T gov't to give him, I mean the T&T fed money, but after initial successes they have told him to go scratch. His political ambitions are clear, but it seems most and T&T don't care for his political goals much.
Jack gave one of the most pathetic speeches in history when LA's stadium opened. He was actually told by Sepp he had to go, when he didn't want to, and he was absolutely a disgrace when he spoke. He was not happy the US had the facility and it was obvious. He actually said that the US should let all other feds use the facility free of charge. He was sad. Serious. Great leader there.
Gee, why hasnt he been asking the Mexicans to do that?
Thank goodness Pele was the next speaker and he made people forget JW quickly.
Jack is a modern day Al Capone who used democracy to get his little regime started. Don't think for one second that he doesn't have a successor lined up. The Carribean holds the power in our region, and it isn't going to change.
We need to become as strong and self sufficient as Mexico. They just basically do what they want and ignore him. They have the money and Jack really wants it. We are getting there, but the little crime bosses form the Carribbean will be in power for a long time to come.
Mountainia
16 Feb 2006, 09:32 PM
I haven't thought about that, but I really just meant having the US and Mexico push for a new, more honest guy, even if he's from another country. I hope Bush doesn't have any say, or we'll get stuck with John Bolton, or maybe the next member of the administration to get indicted. :rolleyes:
I would guess Bush would pick Jim Rome.
Bill Schmidt
16 Feb 2006, 09:34 PM
Explota la FIFA!
Like in 2002 with the presidential votes, etc. etc.
sidefootsitter
17 Feb 2006, 02:10 AM
I haven't thought about that, but I really just meant having the US and Mexico push for a new, more honest guy, even if he's from another country. I hope Bush doesn't have any say, or we'll get stuck with John Bolton, or maybe the next member of the administration to get indicted. :rolleyes: Bolton's sole task is to kick rabble like Warner in the keyster. It's not like the UN is all that different from FIFA.
Lord15
17 Feb 2006, 02:34 AM
The US has been a big supporter of Warner. Warner and Mexico go at it.
That's why (for the last how ever long) the US has supported him... It's
been in our interest.
Better the devil you know (than some mexico-loving dickheaddevil)!
But yeah, he's corrupt. Just more like a dictatorial american sympathizer than a mobster.
Jagermeister
17 Feb 2006, 08:23 AM
The US has been a big supporter of Warner. Warner and Mexico go at it.
That's why (for the last how ever long) the US has supported him... It's
been in our interest.
Better the devil you know (than some mexico-loving dickheaddevil)!
But yeah, he's corrupt. Just more like a dictatorial american sympathizer than a mobster.
I was at the LA opening and in T&T for the U17 WC. I talked to quite a few high ups in both feds which is why this issue interests me, but this statement mirrors what I heard sevral times from US officials.
A TOP US official said this to me when I questioned him about Jack.
"Yes, he is basically a criminal......but he is our criminal."
Enough said.
Adam Zebrowski
17 Feb 2006, 12:40 PM
correct, warner is our noriega...he's on our side, but we'll turn on him at a moments notice.