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Lillywhite
16 Feb 2006, 12:13 AM
See, Yiddos really are good at bidniss!

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4716174.stm

Man Utd dethroned as richest club
ANNUAL INCOME FOR 2004-05

1(2) Real Madrid £186.2m
2(1) Man Utd £166.4m
3(3) AC Milan £158m
4(5) Juventus £154.9m
5(4) Chelsea £149.1m
6(7) Barcelona £140.4m
7(9) Bayern Munich £128m
8(10) Liverpool £122.4m
9(8) Inter Milan £119.7m
10(6) Arsenal £115.7m
11(12) Roma £89m
12(11) Newcastle £87.1m
13(14) Spurs £70.6m
14(17) Schalke £65.8m
15(-) Lyon £62.7m
16(13) Celtic £62.6m
17(16) Man City £60.9m
18(-) Everton £60m
19(-) Valencia £57.2m
20(15) Lazio £56.1m
Source: Deloitte (Previous season's positions in brackets)

Real Madrid have leapfrogged Manchester United to become the world's richest football club in terms of income, according to a report.
After eight years at the top of the Deloitte Football Money League, United were pushed into second place based on revenues from the 2004-5 season.

Real Madrid's income has doubled in the past five years, as players such as David Beckham have boosted shirt sales.

Nine British clubs made it into the list of the world's richest 20 teams.

Liverpool moved up to eighth in the table after their Champions League victory gave a major boost to their income.

The Deloitte review does not include the cost of transfer fees or player wages and concentrates solely on day-to-day income from football business such as ticket sales, merchandising and broadcast revenues.

As a consequence, Chelsea came fifth in the table with income of £149m despite making a record £140m loss last season.

On pitch performance

Manchester United lost their tag as the world's richest club in income terms in the same season that it was finally bought by US businessman Malcolm Glazer.

The club's income fell to £166.4m from £171.5m the year before, due mainly to reduced broadcasting revenues both at home and in Europe.

However, it still made more from match day revenues - including ticket sales and corporate hospitality - than any other club.


Liverpool's Champions League win boosted their income

Deloitte said Manchester United was unlikely to reclaim top spot this year because of its early exit from the Champions League.

But it said it could return to the top in the future especially as it was further expanding the capacity of its Old Trafford ground which would bring in more revenue.

"United remain one of the foremost brands in the industry and are still clearly the most profitable club in terms of day-to-day operations," said Dan Jones, partner at Deloitte's business sports group.

But he added: "The club will want to improve its performance on the pitch to help management's efforts to increase commercial value."

More than 40% of Real Madrid's income comes from commercial revenues and the club recently secured a £14m-a-year shirt sponsorship deal with Taiwan's BenQ mobile.

Real Madrid's commercial supremacy has come despite a relative lack of success on the pitch in recent seasons.

The club has only won the Spanish Championship once in the last four seasons, while it last won the Champions League in 2002.

Star appeal

However, the appeal of star players such as David Beckham, Ronaldo and Raul have helped boost the club's merchandising efforts. It has used the appeal of these players to boost sales of shirts and other merchandise, particularly in Asia where David Beckham has a huge personal following.

"Real Madrid have been more successful in turning their international support into revenues than most other clubs including Manchester United," Deloitte's Paul Rawnsley said.

Arsenal, Newcastle United, Tottenham Hotspur, Celtic, Manchester City and Everton are the other British clubs to make it into the top 20.

Everton made it into the list for the first time after finishing fourth in the English Premiership last season.

The combined income of the top twenty clubs surpassed £2bn for the first time in 2004-5.

Deloitte said it expected more French and German clubs to feature in the list in future seasons because television revenues in the two countries had increased substantially.

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I'm surprised we're so close to the northern monkies. As the nagging bitch....I mean our Geordie friend, Graeme......keeps telling us, the Barcodes are a huge club who have the best supporters in terms of buying mechandise etc.

Seems that even without European football and a vastly smaller stadium capacity, we're doing alright for ourselves, already!

Nice to see that Madrid's policy of ignoring everything to do with actually playing football is paying off for them.

Got a little chuckle out of Everton's inclusion.

Shalom. :cool:

Toon³
16 Feb 2006, 12:49 AM
I'm surprised we're so close to the northern monkies. As the nagging bitch....I mean our Geordie friend, Graeme......keeps telling us, the Barcodes are a huge club who have the best supporters in terms of buying mechandise etc.


£17 million isn't close.

Lillywhite
16 Feb 2006, 01:22 AM
£17 million isn't close.

Aww come on Graeme, no need to take it that way. :eek: We really must be massive then. We're 13 mill better off than Valencia.

Considering how many more fans you have I'd have though you'd easily break a 100 mill. They are the bestest in the land after all. :D

Well never fear, whilst you sit comfortably in midtable with Fulham and the like, we'll be earning some more money in Europe. Sneek us that little bit closer to the monolith that is NUFC. With our 16 thousand fewer fans each week. :(

You'll have to excuse me if I'm being a petty little shit, Graeme. It's just that I can't wait to read all your adoring posts in the Tottenham appreciation thread next season. I want long rambling prose on the greatness of THFC.

Toon³
16 Feb 2006, 01:26 AM
Aww come on Graeme, no need to take it that way. :eek: We really must be massive then. We're 13 mill better off than Valencia.

Considering how many more fans you have I'd have though you'd easily break a 100 mill. They are the bestest in the land after all. :D

Well never fear, whilst you sit comfortably in midtable with Fulham and the like, we'll be earning some more money in Europe. Sneek us that little bit closer to the monolith that is NUFC. With our 16 thousand fewer fans each week. :(

You'll have to excuse me if I'm being a petty little shit, Graeme. It's just that I can't wait to read all your adoring posts in the Tottenham appreciation thread next season. I want long rambling prose on the greatness of THFC.

I never said I would post anything nice in it. Just that there would be a thread title Tottenham appreciation thread. Never leave me a loophole

PoshSpur
16 Feb 2006, 02:22 AM
We will be in the top 10 in the next financial year as we have the PUMA & LG sponsors, plus we may also be in the Champions League.

Imagine if we also had a larger turnover from gate entrances?

Lillywhite
16 Feb 2006, 02:36 AM
I never said I would post anything nice in it. Just that there would be a thread title Tottenham appreciation thread. Never leave me a loophole

Well played son! :D

You said you'd sticky it though. I guess all us Yids will have to edumacate you damn northern Yankees about the sheer, ball busting brilliance of THFC!

Lillywhite
16 Feb 2006, 02:39 AM
We will be in the top 10 in the next financial year as we have the PUMA & LG sponsors, plus we may also be in the Champions League.

Imagine if we also had a larger turnover from gate entrances?

Yes indeedy. I have a feeling we'll have to wait a few more years yet if anything happens at all.

My feeling is the club wants us to take care of business on the pitch for a few years (cross fingers) and bring in some dosh. Then we'll have enough money to build a new stadium. Let's face it, the restrictions involved with the Lane will mean we'll have a capacity of 45-50 thou at most!

If we really do have long term plans to become a force in Europe then we need more than that. Or we pay EVEN more for tickets. People can only afford so much, imo.

Again, if we drop a bollock on the pitch then all of that is moot.

Toon³
16 Feb 2006, 02:40 AM
We will be in the top 10 in the next financial year as we have the PUMA & LG sponsors, plus we may also be in the Champions League.

Imagine if we also had a larger turnover from gate entrances?

You won't be able to gain £40million in a year.

If your so minted why don't you build a new stadium?

PoshSpur
16 Feb 2006, 02:42 AM
When I was running THBN, we received feeds from various sources on the redevelopment of the Lane.

It can actually be redeveloped to increase to 62,500. But the chances of that happening are very slim, so I do feel that we will move within the next 7 years.

PoshSpur
16 Feb 2006, 02:44 AM
Champions League brings in at least £20 million some say.

The new sponsors will bring in a further £7 million a year.

If we offload another 10 midfielders, I am sure we can reach the £40 mill mark.

Lillywhite
16 Feb 2006, 02:45 AM
You won't be able to gain £40million in a year.

If your so minted why don't you build a new stadium?

Could NUFC afford 300 mill just like that? Of course not. Even Assnal can't. :D

We can afford to expand the Lane easily but there are problems other than financial involved in that.

PoshSpur
16 Feb 2006, 02:49 AM
.................

Lillywhite
16 Feb 2006, 02:53 AM
There's no point in arguing with him Pidge. His mind is in a place like ours was with Gross in charge.

Do you remember those dark and troubling times?

Graeme keeps reminding me of them. Then I look to the Premiership table and see we're 4th, and all is well again.

Everytime I just manage to forget that squalid event in my life, you keep bringing it up! :( :D

Yes it is nice to see. I'll still be happy with top 5 though. Keeps deseprately hoping for 4th but I'm not prepared to let myself think of that right now. Hell, if Manure win the League Cup I'll take 6th. Would be a little dissapointed to get that now though.

Still. No European football and only the 11th highest capacity in the prem and we're up a place. Just think if we achieve even modest success.

PoshSpur
16 Feb 2006, 02:57 AM
Everytime I just manage to forget that squalid event in my life, you keep bringing it up! :( :D

Yes it is nice to see. I'll still be happy with top 5 though. Keeps deseprately hoping for 4th but I'm not prepared to let myself think of that right now. Hell, if Manure win the League Cup I'll take 6th. Would be a little dissapointed to get that now though.

Still. No European football and only the 11th highest capacity in the prem and we're up a place. Just think if we achieve even modest success.


...that's something Graeme dreams of. :D

Toon³
16 Feb 2006, 02:59 AM
Could NUFC afford 300 mill just like that? Of course not. Even Assnal can't. :D

We can afford to expand the Lane easily but there are problems other than financial involved in that.

But but but I thought you had the backing of the 2nd richest man in British football???

Lillywhite
16 Feb 2006, 03:05 AM
Backed by ENIC, technically. It's not like we have one man spunking millions away at will, a la Chelscum.

Things called shareholders and stuff make it tricky to just buy your mistress a pad. :D

Toon³
16 Feb 2006, 03:09 AM
Backed by ENIC, technically. It's not like we have one man spunking millions away at will, a la Chelscum.

Things called shareholders and stuff make it tricky to just buy your mistress a pad. :D

Excuses excuses.

PoshSpur
16 Feb 2006, 03:12 AM
It's great how we are so overspending and still manage to hide it.

Mr. Lewis is the man!

Lillywhite
16 Feb 2006, 03:22 AM
Excuses excuses.

Was that Souness's nickname?

Graham "excuses" Souness.

PoshSpur
16 Feb 2006, 03:41 AM
Right them, I'm off to do some work.

Catch up with you guy's later.

See ya.