world cup qualifying 2006

[EvilRick]

I just heard a news wire. It claimed that a powerful
American business man With strong ties to the MLS
and the USSF wants the USA to host the next WC
hex In its entirety and is lobbying the USSF to
propose the plan to CONCACA.

This has already happened before, T&T hosted the
last WQ leg for WC82 and it wasn’t Pretty. I don’t
think the other federations would want to give
away their home field advantage along with their
profit, but there is a Jack Ass at the helm and with
a big enough bribe, this could happen :(

[thurd]

this maybe have anything to do with phil anshutz (sp?) trying to buy the tv rights?

[CanuckFan2]

I think Canada will be quite happy to play their home matches on Canadian soil, assuming we make the hex this time. And I can't imagine Mexico wanting to leave Azteca. What national association is going to want to hand over their home field advantage?

[Davids26]

As an American, you would think I'd like this idea. But half the fun of qualifiers is going to places that you aren't wanted. It prepares you for bigger competition. Having it all in the US would be terrible, and I hate this idea.

[Captain Canuck]

Originally posted by EvilRick
I just heard a news wire. It claimed that a powerful
American business man With strong ties to the MLS
and the USSF wants the USA to host the next WC
hex In its entirety and is lobbying the USSF to
propose the plan to CONCACA.

This has already happened before, T&T hosted the
last WQ leg for WC82 and it wasn’t Pretty. I don’t
think the other federations would want to give
away their home field advantage along with their
profit, but there is a Jack Ass at the helm and with
a big enough bribe, this could happen :(

Actually it was Honduras who held the entire 1982 Hex - to no one's surprise they won the group, with El Salvador finishing second & Canada tied for 3rd place a point out, eliminated frustratingly by because of a 2-2 draw with Cuba (had they won they would have gone instead of El Salvador - they had to wait another 4 years to get in). In 1978 the final round was hosted by Mexico & surprise, surprise, they got the only spot available to Concacaf. Whoever hosts would have an incredible advantage.

Having the US host the Gold Cup every year & the final round of qualifying for the World Cup would be a bit much methinks - but having said that I bet Canada would prefer playing its away games in the US than in Mexico or Central America, since the majority of Canada's players are used to playing in much colder climates. However, I doubt Canada will have much say in the matter, whatever happens.

[JG]

And then there was the final round of WC74 qualifying played entirely in Haiti, where the Haitians qualified after defeating Trinidad 2-1...a match where the Trinis had 4 goals disallowed.

The 82 final must have been wonderful soccer, El Salvador qualifying despite scoring just 2 goals in 5 matches.

Staging the hex in one country would be a huge step backwards.

[Various Styles]

If the HEX was held entirely in U.S soil, the USMNT would not have Home field Advantage :D

[DoyleG]

Just about as dumb as CAF with their qualifying proposal.

At least CAF had the sense to drop it.

[Eric B]

Originally posted by Various Styles
If the HEX was held entirely in U.S soil, the USMNT would not have Home field Advantage :D

I guess you didn't make it to Columbus, OH, on 2/28/01? :D

Plus, (and I haven't checked other threads yet, so this may have been addressed) Uncle Phil might only want to buy the international TV rights to the Hex, and then sell them off to the various countries, like Inter-Forever used to do with the CA nations and Canada during the '97 and '01 hexes.

[speedcake]

this is dumb. Does it require a more intelligent reply than that from me?

oh, ok...It's totally freakin' retarded and would undermine the value of playing home and away.

there.

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[Various Styles]

Originally posted by Eric B
I guess you didn't make it to Columbus, OH, on 2/28/01? :D

Part of the incentivce to hosting the HEX in U.S soil would be the cash money the teams would receive from the gates ect. That said the Rosebowl and the Orangebowl would be the most likely venues for hosting this event.. Maybe the USSF can improve their ticket profiling to ensure Home field advantage :p

[CrazyMLSfan]

I think this idea is a Crazy one. I could understand Venezuela giving his rights up and play the home and away in other countries for obvious reason, but other than that NO. This will give USA an easy ticket to the world cup. USA should have not problem qualifying to the world cup not matter where they play the hexegonal. I dont see a link to this story. I mean, i read the article where this businessman wants to buy the rights for the Gold Cup and the Hexegonal, but playing all game in USA soil????. I' ve never read such thing. It could be true, but I never read that. But, dont count with my support.

[ranul]

Here is my idea for the world cup qualifying
round 1 usa and mexico recieve a bye
while the other 33 countries a divided into 11 groups of 3 . each group then holds a double round robin with the top 2 from each group advancing

round 2 6 groups of 4 of top 2 advancing(6 games each)
semi finals 3 groups of 4 top 2 advances(6 games each)
finals 1 group of 6 top 3 advance plus 4 place into a play off (10 games each )

[firefan8]

Ranul,

Your proposal would force Canada to play 24 matches to get to Germany. If your idea gets used, tell your guys they better get ready for a qualifying match in about 3 months.

My guess is not much is going to change in the qualification process for the next Cup. We're still going to have the hexagonal, but this time the 4th place team still has a shot.

[Fedz]

Ranul:
And why would the US and Mexico receive byes and not Costa Rica????

[ranul]

to answer the last two posts .
you can have each round a single round robin . instead of a double .

I would have prefered that no teams recieved a bye in any round . but since their are 35 instead of 36 teams I decided to give the byes to mexico and usa since they had advanced farther in the world cup than costa rica .

[Fedz]

And Yet Costa Rica has done better lately in the regional competition:

CR
1 in Hex
2 in GC

US
3 in Hex
1 in GC

Mex
2 in Hex
5 or 6 in GC

I am by no means saying that CR is better or going into any of that type of debate, but stating that giving out byes is very subjective and valid points can be made for any of the top three teams.

[Crazy_Yank]

Originally posted by Fedz
And Yet Costa Rica has done better lately in the regional competition:

CR
1 in Hex
2 in GC

US
3 in Hex
1 in GC

Mex
2 in Hex
5 or 6 in GC

I am by no means saying that CR is better or going into any of that type of debate, but stating that giving out byes is very subjective and valid points can be made for any of the top three teams.


This is 100% correct. The current format is fine the way it is. The only change that could possibly benefit the system is to change the hexagonal to an octagonal due to the new half slot. Instead of just taking the top 2 from each of the semi-final groups also take the top 2 3rd place teams. I think concacaf has enough quality for a competitive final round.

[afgrijselijkheid]

Originally posted by Davids26
As an American, you would think I'd like this idea. But half the fun of qualifiers is going to places that you aren't wanted. It prepares you for bigger competition. Having it all in the US would be terrible, and I hate this idea.

here here! - well said

and nobody should get a freakin bye - i dont know whose idea that is but its obscene