Former England boss Greenwood dies

[Colm]

http://home.skysports.com/list.asp?hlid=362043&CPID=219&clid=&lid=4161&title=Former+England+boss+passes+away

R.I.P Ron Greenwood :(

[BridgeMonkee]

84, a fair old innings. Wasn't the most exciting manager ever. although we came a lot closer in 1982 than most folks think. We went to the WC and we didn't lose a single game after all. IF only Keegan and Brooking had been fully fit who knows.

He also played for Chelsea in the team of 1955.

[BridgeMonkee]

England World Cup 1982:

England were in Group 4 in the first round of the competition and the results were:
Group 4

England 3 (Robson 1,67 ; Mariner 83) France 1 (Soler 24)
Czechoslovakia 1 Kuwait 1
England 2 (Francis 62, Barmos own goal 66) Czechoslovakia 0
France 4 Kuwait 1
France 1 Czechoslovakia 1
England 1 (Francis 27) Kuwait 0

In the second round England were in group B with Germany and Spain and the results were:

Germany 0 England 0
Germany 2 Spain 1
Spain 0 England 0

Only the top team qualified for the semi finals and so England went out of the competition undefeated. In fact England were the only team in the competition not to have lost apart from Italy, the eventual World Cup winners. The format was changed for future World Cup's to make it unlikely for this to happen again.

[white riot]

"We're on our way, we are Ron's twenty two."

[FunfzuEins2001]

Can't believe it. Best gets a minutes silence across the country, even Ken Bigley gets this, but its been decided that being an ex England manager is not good enough to qualify, what a joke of a football association

[unclesox]

England World Cup 1982:

In the second round England were in group B with Germany and Spain and the results were:

Germany 0 England 0
Germany 2 Spain 1
Spain 0 England 0

Only the top team qualified for the semi finals and so England went out of the competition undefeated. In fact England were the only team in the competition not to have lost apart from Italy, the eventual World Cup winners. The format was changed for future World Cup's to make it unlikely for this to happen again.
There was also a bit of a flaw in that type of scheduling, which I always believed was the main reasoning behind the abolishment of that format.

The schedule called for the loser of the opening matches of the second round to play in the next match. This was so that the final group match would be of importance to both teams playing.
You'll note that this worked perfectly in the other three second round groups, but the WGermany-England 0-0 draw left Group D with a dilemma: Who should play Spain in the next match?
FIFA had already determined beforehand that it would be WGermany.
And once WGermany defeated Spain, it meant that Spain would be going into the England match with absolutely nothing to play for but pride. Tough to do when so much was expected from you, as Spain were before the tournament began.
Tough for the Bundesrepublik as well, as they could only sit in the stands and hope Spain could garner enough pride to salvage a result for them, which they managed to do.
Terrible scheduling throughout Espana 82, as evidenced by that WGermany-Austria abortion of a match.

As for Greenwood, I never liked the way he kept alternating Clemence and Shilton in matches. He felt that he couldn't choose between the two, and so alternated them to start in each international.
As Brian Clough once said, "That's management, FA style.":p