New technical director: Matthias Sammer

[Dead Fingers]

LOL!! :) I am quite fanatical when it comes to Sammer. I know what he helped do to my club.


Get out of here...that's just crazy talk!




:p

[footyfan1]

Sammer was a young coach at this time, it's true he made mistake but he has his qualities too. It's just the easiest way and a well known method to put the blame on a single person, who had to go.


BTW, I forgot to mention that final sentence is nothing but a weak ass cop-out.

Also, I believe I said Sammer still has the POTENTIAL to be a great trainer. I believe I said that and I believe that is true.

I think it speaks well for Sammer that even HE KNOWS he has to go back to get more training himself before he can reach his potential as a trainer. The Leverkusen job was his for the taking and that's exactly why he turned it down.

If he knows he still has work to do on his trainer's skills, why don't you???


He said it for the entire world to hear.......:rolleyes:

[Natrium]

*cough cough*
Honestly... I don't see any "resurgence" at all, Dortmund is just as mediocre as ever. They are only in the top half of the table because the rest of the league except the top 4 isn't exactly going strong either.
And the player you mention ROFL DIE KARTOFFEL.... You can't be serious... :D
Rosicky(one of the most overrated players i've eve seen) is overall very poor this season.
All Odonkor can do is running fast up and down the line.
Gambino has _never ever_ done anything.
Kringe is quite the ordinary player nothing that deserves a special mentioning.

btw the "cop-out" is nothing but the truth and you know it.

[Jaison]

*cough cough*
Honestly... I don't see any "resurgence" at all, Dortmund is just as mediocre as ever. They are only in the top half of the table because the rest of the league except the top 4 isn't exactly going strong either.
And the player you mention ROFL DIE KARTOFFEL.... You can't be serious... :D
Rosicky(one of the most overrated players i've eve seen) is overall very poor this season
All Odonkor can do is running fast up and down the line
Gambino has _never ever_ done anything
Kringe is quiet an ordinary player nothing that deserves a special mentioning

btw the "cop-out" is nothing but the truth and you know it.

Have you even watched a BVB game this year?
Rosicky's had a solid year so far. Odonkor has improved immensely and is much less one-dimensional than he was in the past. Van Marwijk's done very well with a young and injury depleted squad this season.

(Hell, this is coming from a Schalke fan too....)

[david29]

qualitywise maybe 3rd or 4th tier

Are you kidding? Now I'd be the first to agree that in the final weeks of that Bundesliga campaign we were very fortunate to get the results that we did, and that it was largely Leverkusen's anxiety that gave us the lead going into the final day. That said, this was also the same side that beat Milan 4-0 on the way to the Uefa Cup final and only narrowly lost it, despite playing most of the match a player down and being a genuine 'away' team against Feyenoord. We might not have been the very best side in Europe, but we weren't complete rubbish. Overpaid? Undoubtedly. Overrated? Far less likely.

[Duncan Idaho]

Putrid compromise

(by Jens Todt)

With the decision for Matthias Sammer as a technical director and the halfhearted job offer for Bernhard Peters the DFB presidency selected the worst of all solutions. The Verbandsbosse help the football establishment to the victory - at expense of team head Klinsmann. Hamburg - it was simply a zumutung too much for the world largest sport federation. Which had not demanded Juergen Klinsmann since its assumption of office everything - also get and: a new, increased staff, a sport psychologist, an American Fitnesstrainer and a Chefscout, which originate from the football dwarf country Switzerland. And then also still: a Hockeytrainer as a technical director of the DFB. of one without stable smell, without newspaper house power and popularity. In the German football, which is for decades an exclusive club blocked against other kinds of sport, that would have equaled a revolution. The fact that the German football of other disciplines, kinds of edge haven could get, impulses runs the self understanding of the industry contrary. The public debate around the new post, which Juergen Klinsmann and more olive beer-hope with the DFB to establish wanted, was above all one: embarrassingly. And it shows, the how very German football in the own juice scorches. Bernhard Peters, Coach of the Hockey Olympiasiegerteams, a recognized expert, will have carried a deep view forward of the customs of the football industry as experience. He is a most successful German coach in a kind of sport, which already argued with modern training methods, didactics and sport psychology, when in many German football clubs still Protagonisten as slogans from turn father Jahns times the clay/tone indicated. Little reform is completely beautiful, but one does not have to exaggerate also, could as slogan over these Posse lasting for weeks. The fact that it was naturally intended in Klinsmanns concept that Bernhard Peters of Germany teaches football new generation Dribblings and Finten hardly played a role in the excited debate. The gefechtslinien were clear: Here the Reformer Klinsmann and beer-hope with its candidate without Meriten in the football - and on the other side the football establishment and a disconcerted DFB presidency, which itself rolled over by the change will of the national team guidance waehnte. Matthias Sammer will be acted automatically from now on after bad results the national team as Klinsmanns successor, as a shade man he will stand behind this. The fact that Klinsmann used itself so vehement for Peter might not have improved Sammers relationship to the coach of the national team necessarily. Bernhard Peters announced meanwhile, "only once thinks" to want. It will probably not for a long time last all too, until it communicates to the public that it is not available for the job with the DFB. Quite it would have. For a second choice it is too good.


http://www.spiegel.de/sport/fussball/0,1518,399846,00.html


That's commentary from the Spiegel about the topic here. I did a translation with google so don't blame me for faults etc.

@footyfan

you are absolutely right, but I guess you know that already :cool:

[HeyaBVB]

What he did as a player has nothing to do with his ability as a coach, which is nearly NIL!!!





Dude, if you really feel that team was "3rd or 4th tier" quality-wise, I think you are either void of knowledge of that team or just blind. That was one of the few seasons anyone in the Bundesliga had as much, if not more talent on the pitch than FC Bayern!

That team was so loaded, they won the title DESPITE Sammer's bungling, not because of him!

And they would have still blown it if 1. FC Nuernberg doesn't beat Bayer Leverkusen on the pentultimate Saturday of that season!

I was at the AOL Arena watching our match HSV on that day and we should have won going away as we were up by two goals in the second half.

Somehow, Sammer decides to play around and we almost managed to throw away that two-goal lead! Were it not for Amoroso's brilliance, we would have LOST!!!

Need I remind anyone of Sammer's BONEHEADED tactical switch with two minutes left to go in the 2003 CL second group stage??

We were on the verge of sending Real Madrid home. All we had to do was hold for the final two minutes.

What does Sammer do?? He takes off our best defensive winger, Dede, for a freakin' STRIKER (Amoroso), who gets dispossessed with about a minute left in stoppage time. Real attacks down the wide open flank where Dede should have been defending and they score the tying goal, putting them through and sending us home!

Many feel that decision was the beginning of BVB's downfall and I totally agree!!! Sammer lost the team then because they all realized that his stupid actions were hurting them more than helping them!

If you want more proof, look at what Sammer did to a Stuttgart team that was near-championship quality when he got there! Look at them now!! Ask the guys on the VfB Stuttgart thread if I didn't tell them exactly what Sammer would do to their team and if it didn't happen exactly as I said it would!

Take a look at what BVB are doing now with much less talent than Sammer threw away!

I believe in my heart that Matthias Sammer is a tactical MORON who I don't believe has the coaching or teaching ability to show a kid how to dribble! I will agree that Sammer has the POTENTIAL to be a great trainer, but he sucks right now! He sucks BADLY!!

I blame Sammer and Sammer alone for the regression of Tomas Rosicky and players such as David Odonkor and Salvatore Gambino, who are just now starting to come into their own under a REAL TEACHER AND TRAINER, BERT VAN MARWIJK!!!!

Matthias Sammer is the one who destroyed that BVB team that should have gone down as one of the greatest BVB sides of all time, which in turn led to the downfall of the club.


I'm glad the downfall happened because we got rid of a even worse management team. However, they bought some great talent with that money they spent. They just sent a freakin' moron out there to lead them!!!


You show me someone who thinks Matthias Sammer is a great trainer and I'll show you someone who either doesn't know the game or is blindly loyal to Sammer because of what he did as a player.


I still revere Sammer the player. That guy is still one of my all-time favorites as a player. But Matthias Sammer the trainer sucked ass and that's about the nicest way I will put it!





Why don't you ask Dortmund and Stuttgart fans what we think about that comment?? I think the only ones you'll find who agree with your comment are blind Sammer worshipers.





Maybe this is your motivation. Because if you think Sammer is a great or even good coach, I'm here to tell you that you are sadly mistaken. :(


Except for the Traiteroso Part , he should burn in hell for what he did to BVB afterward, I am with Keith on that, Sammer is a <censored> joke. only thing with talents he can do is ruin them. Gambino, Odonkor, Brzenska only got a chance with him cause he had to, not he wanted to. HE was the one who brought traiteroso to us, he only wanted "gestandene Spieler" , giving him the overview over talents is the beginning of the end of the DFB. I hope Theo Zwanziger is happy when he (Sammer) destroyed the DFB from within .... as he almost destroyed the BVB and as he almost destroyed stuttgart

[Jaison]

Thanks for the article and translation Duncan Idaho.

It's pretty scary that now, with a large number of talented youngsters coming up the ranks in the next few years, this clown will be in charge of their development for the NT (from what I understand).




olive beer-hope

This is the coolest German -> English translation of a name I've seen yet!:cool:

[footyfan1]

Except for the Traiteroso Part , he should burn in hell for what he did to BVB afterward, I am with Keith on that, Sammer is a <censored> joke. only thing with talents he can do is ruin them. Gambino, Odonkor, Brzenska only got a chance with him cause he had to, not he wanted to. HE was the one who brought traiteroso to us, he only wanted "gestandene Spieler" , giving him the overview over talents is the beginning of the end of the DFB. I hope Theo Zwanziger is happy when he (Sammer) destroyed the DFB from within .... as he almost destroyed the BVB and as he almost destroyed stuttgart


Hey Natrium! The words above are from a young man I've had more than my share of Sammer arguments with in the past.

He's seen the truth. So have most BVB fans.

So continue your weak ass arguments. I'll sit here and laugh my ass off as everyone sees how much you don't know........

[footyfan1]

*cough cough*
Honestly... I don't see any "resurgence" at all, Dortmund is just as mediocre as ever. They are only in the top half of the table because the rest of the league except the top 4 isn't exactly going strong either.
And the player you mention ROFL DIE KARTOFFEL.... You can't be serious... :D
Rosicky(one of the most overrated players i've eve seen) is overall very poor this season.
All Odonkor can do is running fast up and down the line.
Gambino has _never ever_ done anything.
Kringe is quite the ordinary player nothing that deserves a special mentioning.

btw the "cop-out" is nothing but the truth and you know it.


Dude, you've got BVB fans, Schalke fans and Bayern fans all against you on this topic. When have you ever seen BVB fans, Schalke fans and Bayern fans agree on anything? That should tell you something!

If the Stuttgart fans chime in, you'll really begin to look that that "M" word I called Sammer.

If I were you, I'd give it up man. The FACTS are against you.

I know the truth and the truth is far from any of the drivel you are spewing........

Matthias Sammer remains a hero in the hearts of all true BVB fans. But it's for not a damned thing he did from the trainer's bench. After his Stuttgart debacle and the fans seeing Bert van Marwijk actually improving BVB's young players and beginning to do more with less, it's so painfully obvious that Sammer was a crap trainer, they've had to admit the truth to themselves. Hell, Sammer admitted to the world that he has to do more work to become a good trainer! But I guess you still refuse to believe the truth.

Tell us, do you still believe in Santa too? :rolleyes:

[Natrium]

So continue your weak ass arguments. I'll sit here and laugh my ass off as everyone sees how much you don't know........
Good for you, you're easy to entertain. Your postings on the other hand are just tiring.
How about you actually try to read my postings next time? Would be nice. I deliberatly pointed out that those are no arguments, this is my pov.
You don't need to tell me that yours differs. Since you and your "friends" are that much biased in this case you are in no position to judge. Like I said from the very beginning(and I was right), there is no point in argueing with you. And that's not because you're right, it's because you would never accept anything other than your opinion. btw Just because a position is a majority position doesn't mean it is automatically true. But I don't need to tell you that, right? It's not like you would care, rght? "I should give up?" WTF are you talking about? I should give up my opinion, because _you_ don't like it? Now that's funny.

[HeyaBVB]

Natrium: Wenn man keine Ahnung hat , einfach mal die Klappe halten :)

[Natrium]

Sehr gut, Einsicht ist der erste Schritt zur Besserung, hätte ich hier gar nicht mehr erwartet.

[HeyaBVB]

Wenn du Sammer so magst .. warum richtest du keinen Schrein für ihn ein ...
Dann kannste ihn anbeten und jene die unter seiner Blödheit als Trainer gelitten haben in Ruhe lassen :)

[footyfan1]

"I should give up?" WTF are you talking about? I should give up my opinion, because _you_ don't like it? Now that's funny.


Good point. I'll take that into account next time.

However, in this case what Sammer did and said himself speaks volumes.

You are right though. You are entitled to your opinion and I did overstep my boundaries. For that, you have my sincerest apologies.

Many times I've had to agree to disagree. However, I don't think I've ever disagreed with anyone more when it comes to Matthias Sammer.

Ever. And that's saying something.

You are entitled to your opinion, I'm entitled to think you're dead wrong as you are me.

No problem dude. I actually hope Sammer gets back into coaching. That is, once he's gone back to the drawing board. He said he was going to do that and I guess the position he's in now is a good place for him to learn from his mistakes.