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Dark Savante
06 Feb 2006, 11:07 AM
As the title says:

- Ronaldo's FK goal and the ball trajectory... :eek:

- Ruud has 18league goals in 22league games!

- Ronaldo only has 22goals in 101 league games IIRC.

- Gary Neville's form since returning from injury.

- United have more points at this point in the season then they have had for 5 out of 8 title winning campaigns.

- We haven't played a settled or even the same back 4 or midfield in over 8games.

- Park's improvement from game to game.


Add on ;)

Achtung
06 Feb 2006, 11:16 AM
As the title says:

- Ronaldo's FK goal and the ball trajectory...

Knuckleball! :D



- Ruud has 18league goals in 22league games!

Our best summer signing. :p



- Ronaldo only has 22goals in 101 league games IIRC.

Not a terrible return given his age, position, and summers which have been less than relaxing. He can improve though, and I think he might get 4-5 more by the end of the season.



- Gary Neville's form since returning from injury.

Its disappointing to be fair, but had been disguised by the great form of Brown and Rio. Time for him to be a captain and step up, especially with two new defenders in the team.



- United have more points at this point in the season then they have had for 5 out of 8 title winning campaigns.

Some "crisis". In a world where people used real money, it'd be us and Liverpool fighting for the title.




- We haven't played a settled or even the same back 4 or midfield in over 8games.

Damn dodgy Italian physios. :mad:




- Park's improvement from game to game.

Great passing vision, good to see him score a Prem goal though he still could work on that eye for goal. Can't say I'm disappointed with his contributions, and he definitely looks more settled now.

Motterman
06 Feb 2006, 12:37 PM
http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/sport/football/manchesterunited/s/203/203508_rio_backs_the_boo_boys.html?rss=yes

Rio and the club trying to repair his image with the fans with a view to the future Captaincy... :confused:

:p

Achtung
06 Feb 2006, 12:41 PM
http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/sport/football/manchesterunited/s/203/203508_rio_backs_the_boo_boys.html?rss=yes

Rio and the club trying to repair his image with the fans with a view to the future Captaincy... :confused:

:p

As long as he doesn't hire Tom Cruise's publicist, he should be fine.

johno
06 Feb 2006, 12:53 PM
- Ronaldo's FK goal and the ball trajectory... :eek:

That was scary, what made it even scarier was the pace on the shot. I've seen that wiggle from a ball before, but I'm not sure if it was quite so dramatic.

- Ruud has 18league goals in 22league games!

This is suprising why? He's one of the best strikers of his generation and an amazing striker.

- Ronaldo only has 22goals in 101 league games IIRC.

When you consider how many of those were sub appearances its not quite so bad. When you factor in how many times he's hit the bloody post then its nearer to acceptable.

- Gary Neville's form since returning from injury.

Kinda worrying to be honest. I thought he would find his groove, and he did play well for a couple games, but not up to his standards for long enough.

- United have more points at this point in the season then they have had for 5 out of 8 title winning campaigns.

Well all we need is for Microsoft to buy out Glazer and we'll be fine.

- We haven't played a settled or even the same back 4 or midfield in over 8games.

To be expected with our injury situation... what's suprising is the manner in which we've scored during that period with out any kind of stability. Think of how we'd have approached this situation last year.

- Park's improvement from game to game.

I've said he was a damned good player from the begining... his communication and reading of his teammates is improving and his penetrating runs will be even more telling when Rooney returns to full fitness and form.

K_19
06 Feb 2006, 12:53 PM
- It may just be me, but what about Howard's absence from the squad altogether in the last match? :eek: Steele was on the bench instead of him... if I missed something very obvious regarding this, please let me know. If not, then hmm... I wonder what the deal was.

- Alan Smith's progress as CM/DM. It seems like we forgot about this and focusing on Rio experiment much more now. Or maybe he's just been injured too much...

- John O'Shea's absence. Oh wait.

- Quinton Fortune. How injured is he? Does anyone care? Is he even still on our roster? Is he even alive? Does he even exist? :p

- Louis Saha's increasing amount of Tap-ins. :p Hey, for all Ruud gets criticized for, Saha's doing the same thing. Not that there is anything wrong with that... it all takes positioning skill and sense for goal.

- Phil Bardsley. I wish people showed more love to this kid. I love what he brings to the game and personally think that he should be given more time against some of the lower-class opponents (maybe even start in place of struggling Gary at times).

Sapphire
06 Feb 2006, 12:54 PM
United have more points at this point in the season then they have had for 5 out of 8 title winning campaigns.This one really shocked me. I guess our disappointment in Europe combined with Chelsea's disproportionate success in the Prem has distorted our view how well we really are doing in the EPL. Especially with EPL wins over Pool, Chelsea and the Arse this season.

Motterman
06 Feb 2006, 12:58 PM
This one really shocked me. I guess our disappointment in Europe combined with Chelsea's disproportionate success in the Prem has distorted our view how well we really are doing in the EPL. Especially with EPL wins over Pool, Chelsea and the Arse this season.

Yeah, but the standards are set by the team in first place. It's up to us to match and overtake the performances by our rivals for the title.

Vermont Red
06 Feb 2006, 12:58 PM
With all the production of Ruud, Rooney and Saha no one has seen fit to talk about Forlan. How is he doing this season? Was it still a mistake to sell him?

Sapphire
06 Feb 2006, 01:06 PM
Yeah, but the standards are set by the team in first place. It's up to us to match and overtake the performances by our rivals for the title.Absolutely agree. It is interesting to put this season into perspective with our performances in recent seasons, however. I was thinking of our performance as really disastrous this season, and, at least in the league, it hasn't been so bad. It's not good enough (we need to be #1), but it's not bad either.

Stud83
06 Feb 2006, 01:06 PM
Was it still a mistake to sell him?

Did someone actually think it was a mistake? :eek: He may score 50 goals every year in Spain, I still wouldn't consider selling him a mistake.

Vermont Red
06 Feb 2006, 01:10 PM
Did someone actually think it was a mistake? :eek: He may score 50 goals every year in Spain, I still wouldn't consider selling him a mistake.

I didn't think it was a mistake, but there were some who would use that transfer as an example of Fergie's cluelessness in transfer dealings. Now that Forlan has reverted back to his usual form, that example hasn't been as prominent.

johno
06 Feb 2006, 01:19 PM
he's scored like 6 goals this season... well I haven't checked recently but less than a month or so ago it was 5. Teams realized the way to defend him is not to mark him.

ASUCruz
06 Feb 2006, 01:27 PM
Hasn't Riquemle missed games as well? He was a pretty big reason for Forlan's success.

Father Ted
06 Feb 2006, 01:34 PM
- Ronaldo only has 22goals in 101 league games IIRC.



I checked a comparable player who goes by the name of Ryan Giggs:

90-91 1 Goals, 2 Games
91-92 4 Goals, 38 Games
92-93 9 Goals, 41 Games
93-94 13 Goals, 38 Games

24 goals in 119 games. Ronaldo has a better rate of return (.218 goals/game versus .202 goals/game).

johno
06 Feb 2006, 01:35 PM
I checked a comparable player who goes by the name of Ryan Giggs:

90-91 1 Goals, 2 Games
91-92 4 Goals, 38 Games
92-93 9 Goals, 41 Games
93-94 13 Goals, 38 Games

24 goals in 119 games. Ronaldo has a better rate of return (.218 goals/game versus .202 goals/game).

good work... I also think we'll see Ronaldo's scoring impout increase just like Ryan's did (perhaps even more) as he gets a bit older.

Dark Savante
06 Feb 2006, 01:44 PM
I checked a comparable player who goes by the name of Ryan Giggs:

90-91 1 Goals, 2 Games
91-92 4 Goals, 38 Games
92-93 9 Goals, 41 Games
93-94 13 Goals, 38 Games

24 goals in 119 games. Ronaldo has a better rate of return (.218 goals/game versus .202 goals/game).
That's an interesting comparison. it's a shame we cant compare minutes.

MtP07
06 Feb 2006, 01:46 PM
I checked a comparable player who goes by the name of Ryan Giggs:

90-91 1 Goals, 2 Games
91-92 4 Goals, 38 Games
92-93 9 Goals, 41 Games
93-94 13 Goals, 38 Games

24 goals in 119 games. Ronaldo has a better rate of return (.218 goals/game versus .202 goals/game).

Isn't that 27 goals in 119 games for a .226??

Dark Savante
06 Feb 2006, 02:01 PM
Ruud - wierd cos that's a ridiculous return for the league and no one has seen fit to talk about it :confused:


Ronaldo's FK reminded of the kind of flight you get on cheap 99p plastic 'fly away' balls. I've never seen a heavy 'caser' (leather casing) football move like that before.

johno
06 Feb 2006, 02:05 PM
Well, I had Ruud's goal tally in my signature not too long ago... You all know how much I love to praise Ruud but you're right, I haven't had much chance to preach to the choir this season despite Ruud's great productivity so far. When you consider some of the nice goals he's scored as well this season it is odd that we aren't talking more about it.