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ghazi
10 Mar 2006, 06:44 PM
UsScouse, you're showing your age! lol.

City of God was arguable the best movie i've seen in the past decade. It was beautiful. I forgot that Morellia actually directed Constant Gardener as well. That was pretty good. But i feel like killing myself for being blessed with a full stomach and good health.

usscouse
11 Mar 2006, 08:12 PM
Jesus, I have to explain myself to a couple of kids...! :)

It's nothing to do about drugs, violence and my age. I was in the special forces, I've worked as a bouncer and probably seen more what drugs can do to people and their families than most. I used to visit one of my best friends while he was in Federal Prison because he did something after I turned it down. I've got a couple of knife scars as well....you show me yours and I'll show you mine...:rolleyes:

I can't quite put into words why I didn't like the movie at the moment, although there's no doubt that the way it depicted the way of life for those kids in it, is the way it is.
Beautiful....I don't think so. Perhaps you like it because of the drugs and violence?

I saw another Brasilian movie a year or so back about a woman and kid trying to get across country to see reletives and one of the scenes depicts the way society there thinks of the homeless kids when a security guard shoots a kid for tresspass, in front of people at a railway station.....and no one cares. A better movie even.

Just wasn't for me I guess and as I said in the very first post here. I like offbeat, foreign, un-Hollywood movies. Movies are like a lot of things in this life, very subjective. Look at the movies that make the most money. Most of it is Hollywood Pap. Why, because people feel so smart, not understanding that the movie has been dumbed down, so even they can understand it.

I don't expect everyone to like every movie I do, so don't think I'm going to like every thing just because you like it.

If you're childish enough to think that because I'm older than you I don't understand anything. Then you have a lot of learning to do....but then when I was 21 I knew everything, just like you....:rolleyes:

usscouse
12 Mar 2006, 12:41 AM
Just watched the "Edukators"
http://www3.ifcfilms.com/theedukators/
Synopsis
Jan, Peter and Jule are living out their rebellious youth. They are united by their passion to change the state of the world. Jan and Peter become "The Edukators," mysterious perpetrators who non-violently warn the local rich their "days of plenty are numbered." Complications follow when vulnerable Jule ends up falling for both young men. Reckless choices result in danger. An operation gone wrong and what was never intended to be a kidnapping brings the three young idealists face-to-face with the values of the generation in power. unquote!

Interesting and different movie. If you've ever read anything of Andres Bader and Ureke Mienhoff from the 70's and put it in present day situations you might get this.

Interesting twists.

LiverpoolFanatic
12 Mar 2006, 11:28 AM
That one sounds cool. I may have to try ou the netflix tihng someday.


We're going to watch Y Tu Mama Tambien again today. Good flick.

I'm with scouse--I like foriegn, un-hollywood films. Occassionally I'll see something that I want to see---generally adventure stuff based on books, LoTR, Harry Potter, etc. But generally, I avoid the theaters.

usscouse
12 Mar 2006, 12:14 PM
Y Tu Mama Tambien Glad you recomended this one, it was on TV last night but we watched Edukators. So I'll look out for it tonight.

I think you'll like Edukators, sounds like your kind of flic.

ghazi
13 Mar 2006, 12:07 PM
Jesus, I have to explain myself to a couple of kids...! :)



Nah man, I understand. I have the same taste in movies. I cant stand Hollywood shlock. Its mindless bullshizz for the masses that has no soul.

.. btw, i'm 33. ;) I loved City of God for the characters, the soundtrack and the cinematography. It's one of those few movies you see in the theater where you forget your watching a movie, and instead, you almost feel you're a part of the story. I took 8 buddies with me who'd (for the most part) never cared for foreign films or independent features, and they were all speechless when we rolled out of there.

Have you guys seen "9 Queens"? That is a great flick that i recommend to everyone who likes movies off the beaten Hollywood path.

ghazi
13 Mar 2006, 12:09 PM
I caught Hustle and Flow last night. Pretty good movie IMO. I'm not into rap or hip hop, but the soundtrack was great. The best scene was when they first cut the "Whip that Trick" recording. I found myself bobbing my head and wanting to pump my fist.

I also want to marry Taryn Manning. What else was she in?

usscouse
21 Mar 2006, 12:04 AM
Saw a couple of 'Main Stream" pics the weekend "Goodnight and Good luck" Just as well I knew the history of the story or it wouldn't have had the same impact. Well done movie though, good acting.

After the show I went on oxygen and the patch...!

Then we watched "Walk the Line" Even though I'm not into "shit kicking" music and I always felt Johny Cash couldn't carry a tune in a bucket, it wasn't bad. Got my toes tapping.
Phoenix does a credible job and Reese Witherspoon was a lot better June Carter than June Carter ever was.

The third of the weekend fare was "History of Violence"
The good bits are the violence, especially if you like seeing guys get shot though the top of the head and see where the bullet came out through the jaw. Complete with the copious amounts of blood spraying from hoses. (Sort of Monty Pythonish!) Other than that it really sucked. Excellent cast who either couldn't stay in character or where directed out of it. The loving wife and son that you couldn't give a crap about and the sickening daughter.

But I'll bet there's a cult following out there who love it.

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And just for ghazi: http://www.thehollywoodtrainer.com/images/Taryn-Manning.jpg
http://www.gossipnews.it/cinema/sundance2005/images/Taryn_Manning_in__Hustle_Flo___16.jpg

You wanted to know her movie credits: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0543383/

liverbird
21 Mar 2006, 07:33 AM
Saw a couple of 'Main Stream" pics the weekend "Goodnight and Good luck" Just as well I knew the history of the story or it wouldn't have had the same impact. Well done movie though, good acting.

After the show I went on oxygen and the patch...!

Then we watched "Walk the Line" Even though I'm not into "shit kicking" music and I always felt Johny Cash couldn't carry a tune in a bucket, it wasn't bad. Got my toes tapping.
Phoenix does a credible job and Reese Witherspoon was a lot better June Carter than June Carter ever was.



I liked Good Night and Good Luck. I hadn't thought that it helped that the story was a familiar one from when I was a wee one. I should show it to my kids and see what they think.

My daughter, the operatic soprano, pointed out that Reese along with being way too pretty and way too skinny to be June Cash also sang much better than June ever did.

usscouse
22 Mar 2006, 11:47 AM
I liked Good Night and Good Luck. I hadn't thought that it helped that the story was a familiar one from when I was a wee one. I should show it to my kids and see what they think.

My daughter, the operatic soprano, pointed out that Reese along with being way too pretty and way too skinny to be June Cash also sang much better than June ever did.I was a young virile man back in Liverpool in those days and was totally blown away with the sort of crap and witch hunting that McCarthy was pulling with the approval of the congress.
A lot of his witch hunting was against the media and film industry. Many people just left the country, Charlie Chaplain never did come back.
Reagan, I believe was one of the chief informers on a lot of former colleagues.
In the movie you don't really get the message of how many lives McCarthy destroyed.
"Are you now, or have you every been a member of any communist organization?" was the question back then.

Like I said, I was totally blow away and outraged at the time, that a country that uses the "Free speech" platform as part of their constitution would act like this. (And still does!)
At the time in England the Communist party was a legitimate 4th (or 9th)party behind labour, conservative and liberals.
It was a matter for the people to make their own minds up and not have the likes of McCarthy hounding them.

stanaccrington
22 Mar 2006, 01:05 PM
Got family visting so hit the DVD store this weekend, got all main stream movies but not bad watchers
Ice Harvest....for me the best of the 4 but didn't go down to well with the rest of the Family.
Pride and Prejudice... Good basic Movie but how many times does it need done, great photography and costumes.
Cinderella man... Good movie and I really wanted to like Russell Crowe but all I could think about was what a twat he was in New York.
Jarhead..I was in the first Gulfwar this was nothing like it. Utter shite worst of the lot.

Twenty26Six
22 Mar 2006, 02:23 PM
Like I said, I was totally blow away and outraged at the time, that a country that uses the "Free speech" platform as part of their constitution would act like this. (And still does!)
At the time in England the Communist party was a legitimate 4th (or 9th)party behind labour, conservative and liberals.
It was a matter for the people to make their own minds up and not have the likes of McCarthy hounding them.

It is the shame of the American people that what happens behind close doors in government is often the realization of morals/values that generate from the most backwater places in America. Politicians aren't the source of that power in America. For evey crocked regime there are millions of Americans who vote for them and believe in them.

Liked your review of the movie, I'll go check it out.

AndSomeAreAngels
22 Mar 2006, 06:04 PM
I just spent two weeks in Austin, TX for the absolutely amazing festival "South by Southwest". Even though the main focus of the festival tends to be music, their film festival goes on for all 10 days and was really good this year. I spent most of the festival checking out films. Hey, I have an excuse, I'm a film producer. :D

The highlights for me were:

"Gretchen"
"Napolean Dynamite" meets "Welcome to the Dollhouse". Sweet, hilarious, beautiful, touching, and sad, there were some really incredible performances and a great off-beat sense of humor to the whole film. I hope it gets picked up for distribution because it is an excellent film.

"Darkon"
Documentary about a large group of people in the Baltimore, MD area who essentially play out a live-action Dungeons & Dragons. Fascinating subject, and while they could have easily poked fun at their subject, they were very respectful and did a nice job of playing up the epic-ness of their "battles". It won the audience award and will almost definitely get picked up for distribution.

"District 13"
This was by far the most fun I've had at a movie theatre in ages. Set in post-apocalyptic Paris, the story involves a neighborhood that's so bad that the police have abandoned it and built a wall around it. Someone steals a nuclear weapon and gives it to the gangs inside District 13 and two guys - one cop and one District 13 resident - have to defuse it. I'm not much of an action film fan, but this was BADASS. The entire theatre was yelling and having a blast. I definitely wanted to kick someone's ass afterwards.

"A Scanner Darkly"
Rick Linklater's new film based on Philip K. Dick's novel of the same name. It was rotoscoped (a la "Waking Life") and the animation was incredibly beautiful and blurred the line between reality and fiction incredibly well. This was a special screening and the film won't be released until July 7, but it was incredibly confusing and not very well-told. Dick fans will probably like it, but I suggest you read the book prior to seeing it, otherwise you'll probably be lost.


And I can't say enough about how awesome SxSW is. Not only is Austin an incredible place to visit, but the festival is top-notch. Great films, great bands, inexpensive and just a raging good time.

AndSomeAreAngels
22 Mar 2006, 06:10 PM
Jesus, I have to explain myself to a couple of kids...!

If you're childish enough to think that because I'm older than you I don't understand anything. Then you have a lot of learning to do....but then when I was 21 I knew everything, just like you....
I was just baffled about reading how much you hated "City of God", and thought maybe it was because of the drugs/violence. I certainly could understand that.

I never suggested you didn't understand it or that my understanding of the film was superior to yours b/c of my age...don't be so defensive! ;)

You're honestly the first person, of any age, to tell me that you didn't think the film was amazing. I think the reviews have been about 1,974 of 1,975 positive! And you were also very scalding in your damnation of the film, so I was curious why. I guess it's hard to explain why you don't like something, but I thought it may be due to the graphic nature of the film, so I asked.

I still think it's an incredible piece of art. :p

Also, Sundance is airing an episodic show called "City of Men", which is produced by much of the same crew and based on the same story as "City of God". I believe it starts in early April.

AndSomeAreAngels
22 Mar 2006, 06:16 PM
Forgot to mention that I also saw the new Jonathan Demme film "Neil Young: Heart of Gold", which was awesome. Very similar to "Stop Making Sense", Demme's concert film of the Talking Heads (my favorite band, BTW).

It's being released nationwide by Paramount Classics, so any Young fans should definitely go and see it. Demme is a goddamn genius.

usscouse
22 Mar 2006, 10:15 PM
I was just baffled about reading how much you hated "City of God", and thought maybe it was because of the drugs/violence. I certainly could understand that.

I never suggested you didn't understand it or that my understanding of the film was superior to yours b/c of my age...don't be so defensive! ;) No, I just though you liked it because of the D&V.. :)

You're honestly the first person, of any age, to tell me that you didn't think the film was amazing. I think the reviews have been about 1,974 of 1,975 positive! And you were also very scalding in your damnation of the film, so I was curious why. I guess it's hard to explain why you don't like something, but I thought it may be due to the graphic nature of the film, so I asked.

I still think it's an incredible piece of art.

Also, Sundance is airing an episodic show called "City of Men", which is produced by much of the same crew and based on the same story as "City of God". I believe it starts in early April.Funny life innitt. I was just having fun but you took it well. Can't tell you why I didn't like COG, it was just one of those movies that left me wondering if I'd ever get those 90 minutes of my life back again.
In one of my lives I lived in Park City Utah and got involved with the First Sundance festival...my how that's changed. Ran into RR a couple of times when I built a home in Sundance valley for some bugger with more money than sense.
Have to see what Netfix sent today! My wifes choices.

"The Squid and the Whale" Jeff Daniels and Laura Linney disintergration of marriage
(Hmm just what I need, done that twice already..:rolleyes: )

"Wilbur Wants to Kill Himself" (never wanted to try that!) Scottish Flick. Looks interesting.

"Junebug"Big Chicago art dealer takes her Italian husband to meet her disfunctional southern family. Aren't they all?

That's the entertainment portion of our lives for the next few nights...!

USvsIRELAND
23 Mar 2006, 10:55 AM
Despite what the critics say, I really enjoyed V for Vendetta.

655321
23 Mar 2006, 11:43 AM
I'm really looking forward to seeing Good Night and Good luck. I've always had a big interest in McCarthyism, so I'm shocked I didn't go see it when it was first released (actually, I'm not...I rarely go to the theater).

I recently canceled my netflix because I finally ordered cable, and for a guy who goes out more than he stays in, I couldn't justify paying for both (a little over $100 a month, combined). It just wasn't necessary.

usscouse
23 Mar 2006, 01:51 PM
I'm really looking forward to seeing Good Night and Good luck. I've always had a big interest in McCarthyism, so I'm shocked I didn't go see it when it was first released (actually, I'm not...I rarely go to the theater).

I recently canceled my netflix because I finally ordered cable, and for a guy who goes out more than he stays in, I couldn't justify paying for both (a little over $100 a month, combined). It just wasn't necessary.It does tend to add up dunnitt? I guess if I was in SFO I'd probably get out more, I like that town!
Our nearest store is 10 miles away. pizza place 14, bank and movie theatre 15. So once I'm home I don't like to backtrack like that......Unless it's to coach or watch football..:)

Watched "Wilbur Wants to Kill Himself" last night. Well done movie filmed in Glasgow. Definately not your Hollywood fare and well worth your time. Good characters, snorts of laughter as they catch you by surprize and sadness that comes with sad relationships.
My wife said she could have used sub-titles in a couple of places but she's American..! (and well travelled)

My brother and I spent a few years in the paras along with a couple of brothers from Glasgow. We went out together a lot, mostly to pubs for a brew, conversation and laughs. I can honestly say that I never once in those years, understood a single word that they said....:rolleyes:

liverbird
23 Mar 2006, 01:57 PM
It does tend to add up dunnitt? I guess if I was in SFO I'd probably get out more, I like that town!
Our nearest store is 10 miles away. pizza place 14, bank and movie theatre 15. So once I'm home I don't like to backtrack like that......Unless it's to coach or watch football..:)

Watched "Wilbur Wants to Kill Himself" last night. Well done movie filmed in Glasgow. Definately not your Hollywood fare and well worth your time. Good characters, snorts of laughter as they catch you by surprize and sadness that comes with sad relationships.
My wife said she could have used sub-titles in a couple of places but she's American..! (and well travelled)

My brother and I spent a few years in the paras along with a couple of brothers from Glasgow. We went out together a lot, mostly to pubs for a brew, conversation and laughs. I can honestly say that I never once in those years, understood a single word that they said....:rolleyes:

Like listening to Gordon St. Rachan:D