The Movie Thread

[Sapphire]

I don't think Anderson's in decline; his only bad movie has been The Life Aquatic, although it was REALLY awful. Royal Tenenbaums is pure genius, I loved every moment of it; but, I have a soft spot for Rushmore, as it was filmed at and based on my high school.

I think Shyamalan, otoh, is a solid filmamker, but I've not seen anything from him to warrant his hype -- scifi/suspense films with a twist at the end . . . some good movies, but I'm not overly impressed.

I think Aranovsky has only made like 2 films in 10 years -- Pi and Requiem, both brilliant -- but it's a little hard to predict what we'll get from him in The Fountain.

[johno]

Over the Hedge sure was a retarded movie. Another rip off of Madagascar and these Disney companies or whatever can't get enough of fcukin zoo animals. Terrible movie. Sheesh!

Actually, Over the Hedge is drawn from a comic strip that's run for years. I haven't seen it, yet - but I'll probably take a look at some point.

[johno]

The problem you see with a lot of directors is that too much freedom actually hurts them. Notably free of this problem (so far) is Alexander Payne.

I'm gonna get smashed for this but I don't care.

I find Quentin Tarantino absolutely HORRIBLE. I can barely sit through his shit. If he didn't get great scripts half of his shit wouldn't be watchable.

[SirManchester]

I'm gonna get smashed for this but I don't care.

I find Quentin Tarantino absolutely HORRIBLE. I can barely sit through his shit. If he didn't get great scripts half of his shit wouldn't be watchable.

Speaking of which, I feel the need to point this out quickly.

I don't care how much into film anyone is, but there is a way to judge one without being totally subjective. I personally dislike Tarantino as well, but am very aware of why his films in the 90's were so acclaimed. In essence, a good movie is a good movie, regardless of whether one likes it or not.

[johno]

Speaking of which, I feel the need to point this out quickly.

I don't care how much into film anyone is, but there is a way to judge one without being totally subjective. I personally dislike Tarantino as well, but am very aware of why his films in the 90's were so acclaimed. In essence, a good movie is a good movie, regardless of whether one likes it or not.

Yes, I can agree with this.

(wow, that's 2 in a row we agree)

There just are some films that I'll never really "get" but still I can understand them being good work. I just really really really haven't enjoyed much of Tarantino's recent work.

[SirManchester]

Yes, I can agree with this.

(wow, that's 2 in a row we agree)

There just are some films that I'll never really "get" but still I can understand them being good work. I just really really really haven't enjoyed much of Tarantino's recent work.

In all honesty, I really enjoyed Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction, they were both extremely original and refreshing. His next three films I couldn't care for, and there's a reason for it, which ties in why I don't like him.

He's the ultimate fanboy and what he does, is just emulate his favorite directors' style and edit them together with some story he also pieced together from his favorite movies. He doesn't really have his own voice except that he does copy his favorite filmmakers which subsequently become his own style. That's simply why I can't consider him an artist. He is a filmmaker, and has come up with a few techniques he can call his own, but he hasn't actually achieved what he has intended ever since first picking up a camera, which is becoming like his heroes; Godard, Truffaut or Bogdanovich; a treu auteur.

[yossarian]

I'm gonna get smashed for this but I don't care.

I find Quentin Tarantino absolutely HORRIBLE. I can barely sit through his shit. If he didn't get great scripts half of his shit wouldn't be watchable.

Umm, Tarantino wrote the scripts for Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction.

[SirManchester]

Umm, Tarantino wrote the scripts for Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction.

and they were both great, He also wrote True Romance, which wasn't good at all in my opinion. I don't particularly rate the rest of his movies.

[yossarian]

and they were both great, He also wrote True Romance, which wasn't good at all in my opinion. I don't particularly rate the rest of his movies.

Well that wasn't really my point though was it. Johno's post seemed to imply that he "got" his scripts from someone else.....which, for the most part, he does not.

I liked True Romance okay and definitely liked both parts of Kill Bill. Get Shorty....ehh, it wasn't my favorite. From Dusk til Dawn was a nut-filled turd even conceding the fact that it wasn't supposed to be anything more than a gore-fest.

What'd you think of Roger Avery's more solo pic....Killing Zoe ??

[SirManchester]

Well that wasn't really my point though was it. Johno's post seemed to imply that he "got" his scripts from someone else.....which, for the most part, he does not.

I liked True Romance okay and definitely liked both parts of Kill Bill. Get Shorty....ehh, it wasn't my favorite. From Dusk til Dawn was a nut-filled turd even conceding the fact that it wasn't supposed to be anything more than a gore-fest.

What'd you think of Roger Avery's more solo pic....Killing Zoe ??

I know what your point was, just re-affirmed it to avoid repetition when johno responds. And To be honest, I haven't really seen Killing Zoe.

[yossarian]

I know what your point was, just re-affirmed it to avoid repetition when johno responds. And To be honest, I haven't really seen Killing Zoe.

I'd recommend it.....if for no other reason than to get your take on it. Personally, I thought it was just okay....and sort of shot down some of the theories that I've heard bandied about that Avery is the real brains in the outfit.

Speaking of Bogdanovich.....since you seem to be knowledgable about films. What do you think of the Last Picture Show ?? And why is it considered so ground-breaking?

[SirManchester]

Speaking of Bogdanovich.....since you seem to be knowledgable about films. What do you think of the Last Picture Show ?? And why is it considered so ground-breaking?

Oh I think that movie is absolutely fantastic. First of all, it is a great and rich character study of intertwining lives in a down and out small Texas town where nothing really is going right. Neither of the characters have much to live for and the town is slowly dying but everyone is still hopelessly clinging on to it.

Also, I remember this is supposed to be Bogdanovich's tribute to older Howard Hawks, or John Ford; typical American classics. But it was more somber, more gritty and overall more realistic, much like all the movies that came out at that time, Arthur Penn and Scorcese, and Coppola, being among this new wave of American cinema. It was an R-rated movie reflecting sexual mores and emphasizing more negative aspects of the human condition than positive.

It was revolutionary in the same sense Easy Rider, Bonnie&Clide, and Midnight Cowboy, in that they challenged traditional American values and exposed the dark side of the human existence. I'm probably not doing this movie any favors by trying to explain it, but you should definitely check it out for yourself.

[yossarian]

Oh I think that movie is absolutely fantastic. First of all, it is a great and rich character study of intertwining lives in a down and out small Texas town where nothing really is going right. Neither of the characters have much to live for and the town is slowly dying but everyone is still hopelessly clinging on to it.

Also, I remember this is supposed to be Bogdanovich's tribute to older Howard Hawks, or John Ford; typical American classics. But it was more somber, more gritty and overall more realistic, much like all the movies that came out at that time, Arthur Penn and Scorcese, and Coppola, being among this new wave of American cinema. It was an R-rated movie reflecting sexual mores and emphasizing more negative aspects of the human condition than positive.

It was revolutionary in the same sense Easy Rider, Bonnie&Clide, and Midnight Cowboy, in that they challenged traditional American values and exposed the dark side of the human existence. I'm probably not doing this movie any favors by trying to explain it, but you should definitely check it out for yourself.

I've seen it....a couple of times, in fact. I'm just always interested in hearing various people's take on it.

[SirManchester]

I've seen it....a couple of times, in fact. I'm just always interested in hearing various people's take on it.

Oh...heh, in that case, watch the other movies I've mentioned too. I mean, what did you think of the movie?

[yossarian]

Oh...heh, in that case, watch the other movies I've mentioned too. I mean, what did you think of the movie?

I thought it was pretty good.....although I'd be lying if I said I loved it. I certainly recognize that put into the context of when it was released it was very edgy with its real-life portrayal of the dying town and the folks that live there.

As I said earlier....it's always on those lists of Top 10 films that real film students have to see, so I'm always curious to hear different takes on it.

[SirManchester]

I thought it was pretty good.....although I'd be lying if I said I loved it. I certainly recognize that put into the context of when it was released it was very edgy with its real-life portrayal of the dying town and the folks that live there.

As I said earlier....it's always on those lists of Top 10 films that real film students have to see, so I'm always curious to hear different takes on it.


I wouldn't really put it on my top 10 films to see, if I wanted someone to see a movie about a coming of age tale about teenagers in a small town, I'd recomend American Graffiti. :D

[holytoledo]

Saw clerks II today. have to say i enjoyed it. there is a bit of sappy-ness in it, but if you liked the first clerks (and if you didnt, ******** off and die :) ) you'll like this one. plenty of laughs, and plenty of the dialogue that you would expect form a real kevin smith movie. he even has a dig at "jersey girl" in the credits, and he lists every friend on his myspace account.
class.
plus rosario dawson is in it. what else do you need?

on my to see list is "a scanner darkly", if anyone has seen this can they give me a heads up on it?
v for vendetta comes out on dvd tuesday. wunderbar!

[SirManchester]

Clerks was good, Clerks II sucks, Rosario Dawson is overrated and V for Vendetta was vomit-inducing. Thank you.

[MtP07]

I saw two movies this weekend...Syriana and Hostel. Syriana was o.k. and Hostel was pretty good.

[MtP07]

Clerks was good, Clerks II sucks, Rosario Dawson is overrated and V for Vendetta was vomit-inducing. Thank you.

V for Vendetta was ok. No vomit from my mouth that evening. ;)