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Achtung
27 Jan 2006, 12:28 PM
Have at it, to discuss whatever goings-on you wish to. However, be forewarned, it should be done in a reasonable, straightforward, and most importantly respectful manner. All forum ground rules apply, and again no personal attacks. We reserve the right to close the thread at anytime if things get out of hand. Also make sure political commentary doesn't get into your attitude towards others in the main forum.
I think that's all. So let's get it on! :)
StrikerCW
27 Jan 2006, 12:32 PM
I think the title may be a little to un-underthecoverofdarkness. Something less obvious may be in order, but that is your desision Achtung.
Nonetheless. RE John McCain. He is exactlly what the country needs right now. A true moderate that will appeal to many people but also help the economy with his economic conservatism (I think it will help it, just hopefully no more tax cuts). However, he is going to be 72 by 2008 as someone said and the oldest President by 3 years over Reagan, so I don't know how that will work.
Sapphire
27 Jan 2006, 12:37 PM
*runs around, sets the walls on fire* WOOOHOOOOO!!! :D
Ok sorry, sorry. Civilized discourse is the heart of democracy.
I'm not crazy about McCain, but if I had to pick the Repub candidate in 2008, it'd be him. Who would be a good running mate for him?
StrikerCW
27 Jan 2006, 12:47 PM
*runs around, sets the walls on fire* WOOOHOOOOO!!! :D
Ok sorry, sorry. Civilized discourse is the heart of democracy.
I'm not crazy about McCain, but if I had to pick the Repub candidate in 2008, it'd be him. Who would be a good running mate for him?
I'm not sure, but it sure hell shouldn't be my man Haley Barber. He hasn't done anything for my state.
For the Dems, I think Gore would have been a great President but no chance of him coming back. Also I would put money on Gen. Wesley Clark winning if he had won the Dems in 04. He has the military service in him and is hard nosed so would appeal to alot of Reps but is also a Demo so would appeal to Democrats. Good guy too.
Motterman
27 Jan 2006, 12:55 PM
McCain/Giuliani '08
Stud83
27 Jan 2006, 01:22 PM
OK, who is gonna be the front-runner for Democrats then? Wesley Clark was supported by Michael Moore, btw... He's a good guy but I just see him winning the primaries. Although Clinton/Clark duo may work, as some would-be McCain voters may also take age into consideration and vote for a younger military guy.
MtP07
27 Jan 2006, 02:15 PM
I hate all politicians.
Teso Dos Bichos
27 Jan 2006, 03:09 PM
Trust a politics thread to kill the entire board.
I'll be sitting on the fence, democrat style, for a while. But if Rick even thinks about showing his face in here... :D
Vermont Red
27 Jan 2006, 03:16 PM
What's the point? This country is moving to the right as the powers that be continue to hype the threat in order to keep the people scared. And so it goes. In the meantime, I'll stay bunkered in the Blue City and hope that by the time I have a child and he or she is in school that creationism is not in the science curriculum.
StrikerCW
27 Jan 2006, 03:18 PM
Why not discuss, if you don't care don't read.
I could see McCain Guiliani though. Bbut from what I hear Hilary has said some idiotic things that are alienating her from her party even.
StrikerCW
27 Jan 2006, 03:19 PM
What's the point? This country is moving to the right as the powers that be continue to hype the threat in order to keep the people scared. And so it goes. In the meantime, I'll stay bunkered in the Blue City and hope that by the time I have a child and he or she is in school that creationism is not in the science curriculum.
Actually you are right sadly, but no reason not to discuss anyways.
Howard Zinn
27 Jan 2006, 03:19 PM
Hmmmm, a politics board. Interesting. Not that anyone with the screen name Howard Zinn would have political leanings. ;) :D
SirManchester
27 Jan 2006, 04:14 PM
All we really need to asses is that this country is going down..and fast. Look for Europe to be the dominating power of the 21st Century, much like the United States did the 20th.
Vermont Red
27 Jan 2006, 04:21 PM
All we really need to asses is that this country is going down..and fast. Look for Europe to be the dominating power of the 21st Century, much like the United States did the 20th.
More likely it will be Asia instead of Europe.
SirManchester
27 Jan 2006, 04:28 PM
More likely it will be Asia instead of Europe.
You could make a strong argument for that but the EU has been working up wonders. Either way, Europe and Asia will help each other out and grow that much stronger. Every country is playing it smart in not getting involved with the States.
Vermont Red
27 Jan 2006, 04:29 PM
You could make a strong argument for that but the EU has been working up wonders. Either way, Europe and Asia will help each other out and grow that much stronger. Every country is playing it smart in not getting involved with the States.
The EU is struggling right now to keep everybody satisfied. I question whether it will last for the rest of this century. Certainly Germany cannot be happy with the EU.
SirManchester
27 Jan 2006, 04:36 PM
The EU is struggling right now to keep everybody satisfied. I question whether it will last for the rest of this century. Certainly Germany cannot be happy with the EU.
It's not much of a "struggle". Ever since its initiation, it's been getting stronger and stronger, and everytime a "struggle" came up, it was dealt with. The EU body has some of the best decision makers and thats why it continues to do well. More countries need to join up of course but all in due time. I can't wait to see how the EU deals with the continent's "identity-crisis".
Teso Dos Bichos
27 Jan 2006, 04:38 PM
Meanwhile, if I was in charge of the country I would be pulling us straight out.
Achtung
27 Jan 2006, 04:41 PM
I think we're moving away from the idea of there being one dominant region of the world. Right now the US is better economically, the EU is better socially, and Asia is trying to catch up economically. South America might be next to make a move, especially if the FTAA passes, though that won't necessarily help the people either (much as NAFTA has been a mixed bag).
Also I wouldn't say either region is avoiding the US. Trade between the US and Asia/Europe is increasing, in both directions. Some say that's a problem though for people on both sides.
SirManchester
27 Jan 2006, 04:45 PM
Meanwhile, if I was in charge of the country I would be pulling us straight out.
you Brits...:rolleyes: