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Uniteder
14 Jul 2006, 08:58 AM
Don't release the terrorists.
Do something at least, you need to see both sides of the story, Arab's think that Israelis are terrorists(while in the westren world from what I hear its vice versa) and allot of them hate people like Osama etc. I don't really get the point here what's the big deal in releasing two and getting two back, its really sad what's going on, entire innocent families are getting wiped out just because of two governments not bothering to compensate.
StrikerCW
14 Jul 2006, 09:03 AM
Do something at least, you need to see both sides of the story, Arab's think that Israelis are terrorists(while in the westren world from what I hear its vice versa) and allot of them hate people like Osama etc. I don't really get the point here what's the big deal in releasing two and getting two back, its really sad what's going on, entire innocent families are getting wiped out just because of two governments not bothering to compensate.
Regardless of what happens now and to cool this situation off, nothing is going to change. If Israel did nothing (not to say they are completely innocent and IMO if they weren't in the ME we wouldn't have any problems down there at all, but thats a different story), the militias and groups etc would not stop attacking Israel. This violence is going to go on no matter the stance of Israel. Do you not agree?
Uniteder
14 Jul 2006, 09:06 AM
Regardless of what happens now and to cool this situation off, nothing is going to change. If Israel did nothing (not to say they are completely innocent and IMO if they weren't in the ME we wouldn't have any problems down there at all, but thats a different story), the militias and groups etc would not stop attacking Israel. This violence is going to go on no matter the stance of Israel. Do you not agree?
Agreed, its the sad truth of life that leaders never seem to change :( it doesnt look like there will be peace for a long long time.
jayro75
14 Jul 2006, 09:20 AM
Do something at least, you need to see both sides of the story, Arab's think that Israelis are terrorists(while in the westren world from what I hear its vice versa) and allot of them hate people like Osama etc. I don't really get the point here what's the big deal in releasing two and getting two back, its really sad what's going on, entire innocent families are getting wiped out just because of two governments not bothering to compensate.
You mean one government (Israeli) and a Terrorist organization funded by 3 governments (Hezbollah)..
Uniteder
14 Jul 2006, 09:24 AM
You mean one government (Israeli) and a Terrorist organization funded by 3 governments (Hezbollah)..
Thats a debate for another day...
jayro75
14 Jul 2006, 10:21 AM
Thats a debate for another day...
:confused: Are you saying Israel is not a govenment or are you saying that Hezbollah are not terrorists???
Please clarify that.
Uniteder
14 Jul 2006, 10:30 AM
:confused: Are you saying Israel is not a govenment or are you saying that Hezbollah are not terrorists???
Please clarify that.
Saying that if Hezbollah is the goverment of Lebanon or not, (IMO it is) it would be foolish to deny that Israel is not a goverment.
jayro75
14 Jul 2006, 10:42 AM
Saying that if Hezbollah is the goverment of Lebanon or not, (IMO it is) it would be foolish to deny that Israel is not a goverment.
Got ya..:) As I said I was confused..
StrikerCW
14 Jul 2006, 10:44 AM
That a confusing post...
Uniteder
15 Jul 2006, 11:12 AM
More than 100 people have been killed now :(
Stud83
15 Jul 2006, 02:49 PM
Do something at least, you need to see both sides of the story, Arab's think that Israelis are terrorists(while in the westren world from what I hear its vice versa) and allot of them hate people like Osama etc. I don't really get the point here what's the big deal in releasing two and getting two back, its really sad what's going on, entire innocent families are getting wiped out just because of two governments not bothering to compensate.
I'm pretty sure Hezbollah want thousands of terrorists to be released, not just 2. As far as Israel being aggressive - well, I totally understand and support them. Kidnapping soldiers and threatening to kill them is an act of war. If Israel doesn't respond, what kind of message is it to its soldiers, and more importantly to militants whose purpose of life is to kill as many Jews as possible? Lebanese government does not have anything against Hezbollah, if anything they are helping them, which essentially makes them a supplier, so Israel has every right to be pissed about it.
Good to see that Ehud Barack has some balls.
Uniteder
18 Jul 2006, 05:57 AM
I'm pretty sure Hezbollah want thousands of terrorists to be released, not just 2. As far as Israel being aggressive - well, I totally understand and support them. Kidnapping soldiers and threatening to kill them is an act of war. If Israel doesn't respond, what kind of message is it to its soldiers, and more importantly to militants whose purpose of life is to kill as many Jews as possible? Lebanese government does not have anything against Hezbollah, if anything they are helping them, which essentially makes them a supplier, so Israel has every right to be pissed about it.
Good to see that Ehud Barack has some balls.
there is no justification for killing Innocent families from any side of the war IMO.I have to agree that Ehud has more balls than Sharon to do this but you must understand that allot of Muslims think that Israel is a terriost country, and you think Vice versa (from what I have read and herd)..No matter what there is no excuse to start a full scale war.You must keep an open mind my friend.
StrikerCW
18 Jul 2006, 09:45 AM
I think this will end up being the statement of Israel not taking any shit off nobody anymore. They are going to bash countries until the other countries either give up or kick out of the scoundrels themselves.
jayro75
18 Jul 2006, 09:49 AM
I have to agree that Ehud has more balls than Sharon to do this but you must understand that allot of Muslims think that Israel is a terriost country, and you think Vice versa (from what I have read and herd)..
We think Hezbollah et al. are terrorists because they strap bombs to their bodies and blow themselves up in restaurants where families are eating.. Or they hijack planes and fly them into buildings where innocent people are working..Or they plant bombs on trains where innocent people are commuting..
Why do Muslims think Israel is a terrorist country???? Because it is a Jewish country...
StrikerCW
18 Jul 2006, 09:51 AM
If anything Israel is no terrorist, at the very worst they are a bully with guns. When they want to kick someone's ass they do it (like we see now) not with cheap tactics like the terror groups (except maybe on occasion with Massad or whatever)
Uniteder
18 Jul 2006, 10:13 AM
We think Hezbollah et al. are terrorists because they strap bombs to their bodies and blow themselves up in restaurants where families are eating.. Or they hijack planes and fly them into buildings where innocent people are working..Or they plant bombs on trains where innocent people are commuting..
Why do Muslims think Israel is a terrorist country???? Because it is a Jewish country...
erm no. We think that they are a terrorist country because we can see pictures of Israel tanks going into ''Palestine'' facing one small kid with a rock and because we can see their military force destroying bridges and towns all over Lebanon because apparently Hezbollah hides everywhere...You really need to do a bit of re-search. In the REAL Quarn it is a huge sin to blow anyone innocent up and it is also forbidden to torture a hostage, please don't take your views of Islam over some Osama Bin laden and his friends alone.
jayro75
18 Jul 2006, 10:39 AM
erm no. We think that they are a terrorist country because we can see pictures of Israel tanks going into ''Palestine'' facing one small kid with a rock and because we can see their military force destroying bridges and towns all over Lebanon because apparently Hezbollah hides everywhere...You really need to do a bit of re-search. In the REAL Quarn it is a huge sin to blow anyone innocent up and it is also forbidden to torture a hostage, please don't take your views of Islam over some Osama Bin laden and his friends alone.
I never said Islam, I said Hezbollah et al. Meaning Hmas Al Qaeda and there ilk.. You are the one who said Muslims think Israel is a terrorist country. Get your facts straight as far as that goes.
Now you my friend are the one who needs to get your facts straight.. Are you really serious with this buylshit.. The reason the Israeli tank is there is that that scumbag palestinian child in the picture is hiding his AK-47 and suicide bomb beltthat was given to him by his father who told him that Jews are bad and we should kill them..
The funny thing is that Israel is as inclusive of it's arab citizens as it is of it's jewish citizens, and christian citizens. Can you say the same for your arab neighbors????
Ididn't ********ing think so....
Numquam Moribimur
18 Jul 2006, 11:11 PM
Israeli troops have enter southern Lebanon ..........
StrikerCW
18 Jul 2006, 11:51 PM
Bout to roll the boys over.
holytoledo
15 Oct 2006, 09:10 PM
As you were.