how good is the USL??

[perucho79]

Not all the time. Depends on the team. A lot of times yes but not all the time.

Anyways, it is all a matter of your tastes. Some people hate MLS and say that it is terrible, that the players are low level. If a lot of people in Montreal want an MLS team as bad as you do perucho, I hope that you guys get one (no offense to the Impact)...
hopefully happens one day, its for the interest of Canadian Soccer, if the USA has improved alot in the past 8 yrs , why not Canada

[VOwithwater]

I just wanna know your opinion on the League....me personally I dont like it at all! I never watched a full game, the level is worst the a 3rd division in Peru!

When it was originally the USISL it was very good very good before the A-l
eague and the MLS. The MLS took all the talent. So what did you exoect?

Third division is mostly bad soccer anyway even in Euirope and some countries second division is not that good. Is the german second division good soccer?

Italian second division is very good,

[VOwithwater]

Lets not forget that the MLS teams use their B sqads for the US OPEN.!

Because some of their coaches who do that have no sense of our soccer History. I hate that incidently.

[Crazy_Yank]

Is the german second division good soccer?






Yes, it's one of the best 2nd divisions in the world.

[VOwithwater]

Yes, it's one of the best 2nd divisions in the world.

Years ago we had a few that tried out for our senior club team I was not impressed. That is why I said that.

The italian second division those players were a lot more impressive.

[Blizzard]

When it was originally the USISL it was very good very good before the A-l
eague and the MLS. The MLS took all the talent. So what did you exoect?

Third division is mostly bad soccer anyway even in Euirope and some countries second division is not that good. Is the german second division good soccer?

Italian second division is very good,

When the Impact, 86'ers and Blizzard joined and saved the APSL, I thought the soccer was very, very good.

The three Canadians teams were like all-star sides.

[perucho79]

When it was originally the USISL it was very good very good before the A-l
eague and the MLS. The MLS took all the talent. So what did you exoect?Third division is mostly bad soccer anyway even in Euirope and some countries second division is not that good. Is the german second division good soccer?

Italian second division is very good,


the montreal impact has brazilian and argentins players who didnt succeeded in their country

[astar24]

There are hundreds of Canadians playing in the NCAA currently and even more playing in CIS, I believe that if after these players came out of school they had clubs to train and play with professionally at a level such as the MLS, Canada will go somewhere. If players come out of school and have no professional environment to play in all year round; there level of play deteriorates.

MLS is the way

[torontosports]

I worked for the Toronto Lynx all of last year and I had the chance to watch over 20 games in the USL including some great road games vs Rochester, Montreal, Vancouver etc. The level is not bad and the scoring is relatively high. Obviously it is not at the MLS level but if that is because of the investments, theres no two bones about that.

I personally think Montreal would be a contender in the NLS as they were a team in synch all year and Vancouver beat Sunderland 3-0 I believe which was a shock to many, but not so much now after seeing them play lol.

I have decided to accept a position with MLSE and then transferring over to the MLS team here so that I can assist in bringing 20 000 true fans to a real solid match. IT WILL HELP CANADA contrary to what many believe. I know Montreal will have economic issues to ponder as will VAN but Toronto is currently the 3rd best soccer city in Canada but still will build a franchise that should be successful. VAN will inevitably have a MLS team within 3 yrs from what I have gathered off contacts down south and out west. The infrastructure $$$ that the 2010 olympics are getting from the federal and provincial governments are going to assist that faster.

As for Montreal when I went to see my first USL game there It was mayhem as they beat us 2-1 and the fans were quite into it all game long. They will eventually have a team as well but not before VAN Im sure of that. Hopefully sooner rather than later because that town is soccer crazy and I love MONTREAL.

As for the peole knocking USL, you ve obviously never caught a game on Fox Sports World and comparing it to the Peruvian 3rd league or whatever bush league is a complete and utter joke. It is going to imrove down the line and hopefully they can compete on all of their cylinders (W LEague, Super Y League).

[torontosports]

sorry for some spelling errors as i have been up all night making sure all my world cup plans have been finalized

[yankiboy]

Toroontosports:

Don't worry about the typos...

More importantly--CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR NEW POSITION WITH MLSE!!!

Best of luck to you and the franchise my friend.

[Blizzard]

Toroontosports:

Don't worry about the typos...

More importantly--CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR NEW POSITION WITH MLSE!!!

Best of luck to you and the franchise my friend.

My thoughts as well.

Many congratulations and all the best.

Cheers and good luck,

"Blizzard"

[Sempuukyaku]

why woudnt Joe Saputo want the Impact to join the MLS?? I dont think he wants to keep playing in that mediocre semi-pro league called USL!


Saputo has NO love for MLS. I don't see him ever putting up the money to have a team here. And quite frankly, that's fine with me....as we have several investment groups interested in MLS right now. We really don't need him.


I'm glad to have MLSE on board as an investor...hopefully they'll make the Toronto club into a top class, fine run outfit.

[Grizzly]

Having seen a lot of European leagues, I would rate the USL as similar to a 3rd division league in a major European soccer country such as Germany (where I watched a lot of 3rd division matches), 4th division in a major European country where the leagues are nationwide not regional (England) and 2nd division in most European countries (Czech, Poland, Austria). My experience is that many people from foreign countries vastly overrate their leagues. Even most of the European 1st divisions (not including the big 4 and 3 or 4 other leagues) are pretty crappy with two or three good teams and a host of vastly inferior teams who play ugly soccer. Noone is saying the USL is good soccer. The German 3rd division is not good soccer either which is why we do not see it on Foxsports. I have also seen a lot of German 4th division matches (I go for the atmosphere not level of play and the atmosphere is sometimes better in the lower divisions than the higher ones) and they are definitely inferior to the USL.

Comparing the USL to the Peruvian 3rd division is an absolute joke and the height of arrogance and ignorance. The better USL teams would have no problem playing in the Peruvian 1st division and the poorer ones would be in the 2nd division. REALITY CHECK: this is the Peruvian league we are talking about here and someone has a fantasy it is Spain.

The German 2nd division is one of the better 2nd tiers in Europe and better than many 1st divisions. Whether one calls it good soccer or not depends on ones perspective of what is good soccer. It is definitely better than the Peruvian first division, for example. I would think it is at par with the Italian 2nd as the Bundesliga is also at par with the Italian 1st division. Some years ago the Italian league was better than the German but the German league has improved in recent times. It is dangerous to compare leagues by comparing a couple of players especially if one doesn't know what level of clubs they played for and whether they were starters or subs, stars or role players. There is a huge difference between a top team starter and a relegation team sub.

Saputo's problem with MLS is not that he does not like the league but that he does not like the ownership structure and the amount of control the league has over the clubs in areas such as contracts and player selection. The league has control or say in many areas of club operations that in most leagues are controlled by the clubs themselves. If Toronto MLS is a success and Vancouver also moves to join I think Saputo would also be forced to join as well. Maybe each side can be flexible in working out an arrangement suitable to everyone. I think the MLS will help Canadian soccer a lot in terms of giving our players a higher level of club soccer possibilities at home and raising the profile of the game. We do need to have a higher level of professional soccer in Canada but the USL should also be given a fair assessment as to where it stands in relation to other soccer leagues.

[CHELEGOL]

wouldn't it be great if all three USL canadian teams can participate in MLS open cup?
I think it will be a great idea and i good possibility, other USL teams do so every year.

[Mr. Hilter]

wouldn't it be great if all three USL canadian teams can participate in MLS open cup?
I think it will be a great idea and i good possibility, other USL teams do so every year.

It's not the MLS Open cup. It is the US Open cup and dates back to 1914. It is called that for a reason, the reason being it is a tournament that is open to USA clubs only.

[Grizzly]

With the MLS moving to an international league it is even more important that the national cups remain national so that there is a national champion of sorts even if they are not the MLS champion. Unfortunately, Canada does not currently have a national cup but hopefully one will be organized once the MLS is established so lower division clubs have a shot at the Canadian MLS teams. Having representatives in international club competition from both countries will only strengthen the tournament and MLS/USL leagues.

[BringBackTheBlizzard]

...Unfortunately, Canada does not currently have a national cup....

That's not really true:-

http://www.rsssf.com/usadave/cncc.html

Scarborough GS United of Ontario are officially the National Champions right now. All that really needs to happen is for the existing tournament based on the 10 provincial cup winners to be opened up to professional teams.

[torontosports]

My dream:

Toronto MLS Franchise vs AC Milan in World Club Final

Yes I know but my isn't it a fantastic thought?

[Mr. Hilter]

My dream:

Toronto MLS Franchise vs AC Milan in World Club Final

Yes I know but my isn't it a fantastic thought?

Maybe if you live in Toronto.