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celito
24 Jan 2006, 02:07 PM
Eriksson just announced that he will be leaving England NT after WC'06 (win or lose). The "fake-Sheikh" story was a blow on his image. He came out looking like an idiot and divulging "secret" opinions/information about his players.

I think this last episode really undermines England's chances to do well in 06. It's extremely important for players to trust/respect the coach in order to achieve success. If I was an English NT player right now, I wouldn't trust him.

Even not playing well lately, I considered England one of the main favorites to win the WC this time around. But I don't think they can do it with this coach.

So the question is, can the players rally together to have a real shot in 06 ? I think a player would really need to step up and be a leader for the rest because Eriksson, IMO, just doesn't cut it.

ExpatSwede
24 Jan 2006, 02:47 PM
What is this thread doing in this forum?

The Potter
24 Jan 2006, 03:20 PM
If we do well in the world cup it will be in spite of Sven.

Teso Dos Bichos
24 Jan 2006, 04:37 PM
He should have been ditched the second he decided to leave after the WC.

Vicar
24 Jan 2006, 05:05 PM
Sack Sven NOW:mad:

simonb_nyc
24 Jan 2006, 08:08 PM
I don't think Sven leaving after the WC will affect England's chances. He is committed to England doing well and in some respects, not having the pressure of facing failure followed by being fired may prove positive. He has nothing to lose. The team is the best England squad in decades. Firing Sven before the WC would be a disaster for morale.

england66
25 Jan 2006, 01:51 AM
No....no...

PsychedelicCeltic
25 Jan 2006, 03:02 AM
Firing Eriksson before the tournament would be an unmitigated disaster. Who would you actually replace him with? No club man is going to leave his club in the middle of the season, and any other experienced manager available is already coaching an international side. Combine that with the pressure to pick an Englishman, and that means you're scraping the barrel for a manager.

Five words are all you need to know about firing Sven: Terry Venables or Kevin Keegan. Yeah...

Alan_V
25 Jan 2006, 10:15 AM
No. Screws of the World wins that job.

celito
25 Jan 2006, 10:47 AM
I don't think Sven leaving after the WC will affect England's chances. He is committed to England doing well and in some respects, not having the pressure of facing failure followed by being fired may prove positive. He has nothing to lose. The team is the best England squad in decades. Firing Sven before the WC would be a disaster for morale.

Normally I would agree, as long as it didn't come as a result of such controversy. That has happened in Brazil in 94 and 02 with Parreira and Scolari. I'd be interested in seeing how the players react.

Colm
25 Jan 2006, 10:48 AM
Well if more crap from the media continues then yes i think it will hampen England's chances.

sendorange
25 Jan 2006, 01:35 PM
Venables and Robson were both announced as leaving after the major tournament following a media storm. Both times we went on and did well.

Eriksson has arguably better squad of players than they did, so I'm sure they will do well and he'll get a lot of credit, some of which will be deserved and some of which will not be.

BridgeMonkee
25 Jan 2006, 03:07 PM
Well if more crap from the media continues then yes i think it will hamper England's chances.
Yes. Absolutlee. Which brings us to the answer to the original question: It is the media - the gutter press - and NOT SGE who are sabotaging England’s World Cup dreams.

DaY 23
26 Jan 2006, 07:20 AM
he wont undermine our chances the hunger will be there as will the desire to bring football home the players wont forget how much this meens to the fans and population of england. they will also have the best fans in the world driving them on the passion and heart of teh fans will flow onto the pitch an consume the players.

Alan_V
26 Jan 2006, 10:17 AM
Yes. Absolutlee. Which brings us to the answer to the original question: It is the media - the gutter press - and NOT SGE who are sabotaging England’s World Cup dreams.

Yes, but it's indirect. They're objective is to sell papers, and in doing so, they're sabotaging England's chances.

BennyNL redded
26 Jan 2006, 10:19 AM
I think he will be fully motivated now to really lead England to the WorldCup.

So he can leave lol@all the tabloids

Joe_Sanchez
26 Jan 2006, 10:24 AM
Everything about Sven undermines our chances of doing well at the world cup. A manager should have 4 main abilities:

1) To select the right players and system.
2) To get the tactics and formation right a) for the players selected and b) depending on the opposition.
3) To motivate the players.
4) To be able to make effective changes during a game in response to individuals/systems not playing/working correctly.

Correct me if I'm wrong but Sven cannot do any of the above.

For those Sven-defenders (and there are many), the standard response is "look at England's record under Sven"; "always qualified comfortably"; "always reached quarter finals of tournaments" etc. Firstly, the reason England have done quite well (in this weak sense) since 2001 is that we have the best group of players in Europe and possibly even the world. Genuinely outstanding players who would walk into any national team's squad (Gerrard, Lampard, Owen, Rooney, Terry, Ashley Cole, Ferdinand...) and good players who play for top european sides and are potentially great players (Joe Cole, Beckham, Campbell, Neville...). I'm not saying that we are the best team in the world - we are not. But that's the point: we could be. We have the players and the manager is the missing link.

We have underachieved since Sven joined. Our important defeats (Brazil, France and Portugal) are remarkably similar and, despite some misfortune (eg Rooney injured/ronaldinho freak goal etc) revealed tactical ineptitude belies belief.

In my opinion he should have gone after 2002WC - or definitely after 2004.

The News of the World is a sh!tty excuse for a paper and has certainly not helped matters - again making Sven the focus of media attention, rather than the national team's football or the world cup itself.

The FA made a big mistake giving Sven such a long contract. The talk of replacements will probably disrupt the WC effort somewhat, but not nearly as much as having an incompetent manager in the first place.

As for foreign or English replacements - I have no problem with a foreign manager. The problem is Sven, not his non-englishness. If any of the English candidates had managed big players or had european experience then great, but they haven't. Hiddink, Capello and even Scolari would get my vote ahead of Curbishley, Sam Allardyce or (gulp) Steve McClaren.

BridgeMonkee
26 Jan 2006, 02:03 PM
Yes, but it's indirect. They're objective is to sell papers, and in doing so, they're sabotaging England's chances.

Doesn’t make them blameless. Having no morals or ethics is really not an excuse. In their pursuit of greater sales they were fully aware of the “fall-out”. They chose to put their energies into their bizarre sheikh dressing activities. As a business/corporation they surely have a psychopathic belief in more sales at any cost. However, as individuals can the same be said?

BridgeMonkee
26 Jan 2006, 02:06 PM
SGE? The only English manager I have ever liked was Bobby Robson the rest have always been d1cks…Hoddle, Greenwood, Revie, Sir Alf, Keegan and Taylor, etc

If we win the WC it’ll be down to the players and a little luck.

0-Point
26 Jan 2006, 03:49 PM
I don't think he colluded in the entrapment. :cool: