View Full Version : Chelsea consider leaving home in £400m move to Earls Court
sydneymuganzi
20 Jan 2006, 03:43 AM
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BridgeMonkee
20 Jan 2006, 08:41 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/4630618.stm
jonam
20 Jan 2006, 08:47 AM
Sounds like they are really looking to move if plans to expand fail.
JoshDB
20 Jan 2006, 09:03 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/4630618.stm
Problem is, we'll still be behind Man Utd and Arsenal in terms of capacity. Heck, isn't Liverpuke getting a new stadium shortly?
50,000 isn't enough. 65,000 would be better.
leftwing
20 Jan 2006, 09:06 AM
Problem is, we'll still be behind Man Utd and Arsenal in terms of capacity. Heck, isn't Liverpuke getting a new stadium shortly?
50,000 isn't enough. 65,000 would be better.
We don't have the support for that number. Particularly not with the most expensive tickets in the league.
yasik19
20 Jan 2006, 11:56 AM
http://www.allinlondon.co.uk/images/tube/74.jpg
i've been there. There are few cool pubs around that area, but i can't remember their names.
chelski72
20 Jan 2006, 01:20 PM
We don't have the support for that number. Particularly not with the most expensive tickets in the league.
we dont have the most expensive tickets in the league.
chelski72
20 Jan 2006, 01:22 PM
Problem is, we'll still be behind Man Utd and Arsenal in terms of capacity. Heck, isn't Liverpuke getting a new stadium shortly?
50,000 isn't enough. 65,000 would be better.
its not about how many 10s of thousands you can put in a stadium, its about the fans themselves.
Everyone knows where the term prawn sandwiches comes from, and everyone knows whose grounds called the library. Ergo it doesnt matter about the number of fans, it matters more about the quality of fans. Sadly the prem is fast becoming to expensive for the real fans to enjoy any more - hence the problems with atmosphere at every ground.
Walter3000
20 Jan 2006, 02:21 PM
its not about how many 10s of thousands you can put in a stadium, its about the fans themselves.
Everyone knows where the term prawn sandwiches comes from, and everyone knows whose grounds called the library. Ergo it doesnt matter about the number of fans, it matters more about the quality of fans. Sadly the prem is fast becoming to expensive for the real fans to enjoy any more - hence the problems with atmosphere at every ground.
Actually when you are talking about business, and money, and that is what this is about, the only thing that matters is quantity.
Clan
20 Jan 2006, 02:56 PM
Actually when you are talking about business, and money, and that is what this is about, the only thing that matters is quantity.
There are only so many that you can bring in though, that will be doing the 'footy thing' on a given Saturday.Right now, it's fashionable to go to Chelsea.Like all fads, this will fade away in time, and all that will be left, is the loyal fans and a half empty stadium.
65,000 for Chelsea, is wayyyyy over the top, imho.
The next 'fad' will be going to the new Arsenal stadium, and if they have a decent team, it;ll last for a while.
Quite a few of those joining the new trend, will be the very same ones with their arses at Stamford Bridge right now.
jonam
20 Jan 2006, 05:36 PM
Actually when you are talking about business, and money, and that is what this is about, the only thing that matters is quantity.
At the moment that I start to support a 100% company, I am done with this game. Football without economics? Not possible in today's world, agreed. Football seen as a simple pure business like any other business? Not with me....
chelski72
20 Jan 2006, 07:01 PM
Actually when you are talking about business, and money, and that is what this is about, the only thing that matters is quantity.
and logic like that is precisely the reason that people who have been watching clubs for years are no longer going to games. sell-out is a term that succinctly gets the point across.
take my own beloved club - they stopped issuing season tickets 2 seasons ago because they reached a level they deemed enough (50%) - the rest they now leave open for members and anyone else to take. this has backfired quite a bit because more often than not they end up with a surplus. if they had increased the season ticket allocation the problem wouldnt have arisen, and whats more, season ticket holders are proper fans - not people coming to london to watch a game of football for something to do.
Miles Brasher
21 Jan 2006, 03:12 AM
Actually when you are talking about business, and money, and that is what this is about, the only thing that matters is quantity.
You can relate this to one of our Directors proudly saying that Ashburton Grove will generate the biggest stadium income in Europe, despite being a cap. of 60,000 compared to other larger Stadia, because of the pricing structure. Well, that's very nice for him, and I'm sure the money will go back into the club, but it's not exactly a nice thing to say to the fans.
Yes, it is all about money, but unfortunately every week 10,000s of us don't want to believe that....
leftwing
21 Jan 2006, 09:19 AM
You can relate this to one of our Directors proudly saying that Ashburton Grove will generate the biggest stadium income in Europe, despite being a cap. of 60,000 compared to other larger Stadia, because of the pricing structure. Well, that's very nice for him, and I'm sure the money will go back into the club, but it's not exactly a nice thing to say to the fans.
Yes, it is all about money, but unfortunately every week 10,000s of us don't want to believe that....
You're right, we don't want to believe it. And the fact is, it's not ALL about money. Money is a big part of it, certainly, but for 2 hours while they're on the pitch, I think the players, the fans, everyone forgets about that. It's what goes on off the pitch where the money part comes in.
I also agree about the revenue part when it comes to clubs and players versus fans. I laugh when I hear fans say they feel players are underpaid and should get raises. Do they not understand where that money comes from? Although the bulk of funds comes from TV these days, a substantial amount still comes from ticket prices. When I was young (a long, long time ago) I went to a lot of games for all kinds of sports with my family. Who can do that today? Ticket prices are so unbelievably high that only corporations and the megarich can afford them without going broke. I think it's kind of unfortunate that I rarely take my kids to sporting events, but the fact is that most of the time the only way I can get a ticket is when one of my friends who works at a big company offers me a ticket. The funny thing is, in the states, one of the few affordable sports you can get a decent ticket to and take your family to is soccer. But seeing what the prices are in the Prem, I don't know how anyone can afford to go to all the games.
I guess my point is that there's a limit to what people can and will pay. ManU can actually fill 65 thousand on a regular basis. However, if they have a down spell, they will start to have empty seats, especially at the prices they charge. With the possible exception of Liverpool, I really don't think any other team could draw that kind of support (maybe Newcastle, though why that is is a mystery to me). If Arsenal think they can, good luck to them. If they start winning the league again, I would imagine they'll be fine. Miss the Champs League a couple times though, and I forsee rows of empty seats. People can get a pretty nice view of the game on a flat screen TV these days for free, no hassle getting to the match, no overpriced food and drink. There really are limits and I think the Prem is approaching the ceiling. 65 thousand seater for Chelsea? Let's sell out the Champs League games first and then we can talk. Personally, this all sounds like the initial posturing for either expansion of the Bridge or a new stadium, but I doubt Roman really intends to try and build something that big.
Toon³
21 Jan 2006, 04:40 PM
I've heard a rumour from a very good source in the NHS that Abramovich plans to buy out the 10-year old Chelsea and Westminister Hospital, knock it down and build a new ground there. He would also build a brand new Hospital somewhere in the Chelsea area to replace the one he knocked down.
Oh and for those of you not up on the price of building brand new hospitals in the centre of London, it should come in at around £400 million.
Nuts!
yasik19
21 Jan 2006, 05:01 PM
I've heard a rumour from a very good source in the NHS that Abramovich plans to buy out the 10-year old Chelsea and Westminister Hospital, knock it down and build a new ground there. He would also build a brand new Hospital somewhere in the Chelsea area to replace the one he knocked down.
Oh and for those of you not up on the price of building brand new hospitals in the centre of London, it should come in at around £400 million.
Nuts!
yeah, but it would probably change many people's opinion about RA if he actually does build a new hospital. It's a noble thing to do.
Toon³
21 Jan 2006, 05:20 PM
yeah, but it would probably change many people's opinion about RA if he actually does build a new hospital. It's a noble thing to do.
Yeah, well if you knock one down in the first place it's just not cricket if you don't rebuild it.
But if he does rebuild it and maybe makes it better than the current one, puts a few extras in there....it might even be passport worthy;)
jonam
21 Jan 2006, 06:21 PM
But if he does rebuild it and maybe makes it better than the current one, puts a few extras in there....it might even be passport worthy;)
Nah, for that you need to buy a big department store and a mediocre football team...... :D
Toon³
21 Jan 2006, 06:35 PM
Nah, for that you need to buy a big department store and a mediocre football team...... :D
or not, as has been shown.
jonam
21 Jan 2006, 06:38 PM
or not, as has been shown.
HELP, I lost a bag of irony somewhere! ;-)