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gunner_21
21 Dec 2005, 11:32 AM
Per Dead Fingers request..............
Rosicky snubs Arsenal for Atletico is the latest transfer "out" news.
gunner_21
21 Dec 2005, 11:33 AM
From the BVB Yahoo list:
Rosicky chooses Atletico Madrid over Arsenal
tribalfootball.com - December 21, 2005
Borussia Dortmund midfielder Tomas Rosicky will snub Arsenal and join Atletico Madrid next month.
Rosicky's agent Pavel Paska has revealed Rosicky has already rejected an offer from Arsenal and wants a move to Spain.
Dortmund are demanding £8 million for the midfielder, while Atletico have so far offered £6.5 million.
Dortmund are pushing for the deal to be closed before Christmas to give them enough time to find a replacement.
footyfan1
21 Dec 2005, 12:02 PM
From the BVB Yahoo list:
Rosicky chooses Atletico Madrid over Arsenal
tribalfootball.com - December 21, 2005
Borussia Dortmund midfielder Tomas Rosicky will snub Arsenal and join Atletico Madrid next month.
Rosicky's agent Pavel Paska has revealed Rosicky has already rejected an offer from Arsenal and wants a move to Spain.
Dortmund are demanding £8 million for the midfielder, while Atletico have so far offered £6.5 million.
Dortmund are pushing for the deal to be closed before Christmas to give them enough time to find a replacement.
Yes, but TribalFootball.com is also one of the most unreliable sources of news on the web. Worse than "Bild" and about as bad as "The Sun".
BVB controls this situation no matter what the hell Rosicky may want. If Atletico doesn't meet Herr Watzke's price, Rosicky isn't going to Atletico.
If Arsenal meets Watzke's price, Watzke goes to Rosicky and says "Go to Arsenal or stay here."
Then, we really get to see how badly Rosicky wants out........ ;)
footyfan1
21 Dec 2005, 12:07 PM
There are rumours about de Jong since several weeks (months). Would be the hammer as he can play holding midfield, centre defense and right-back. But I doubt that we can really sign him. Quality like that is normally chased by Europe's big guns. :-/
The last articles I read about de Jong say he's talking to Man U.......
gunner_21
21 Dec 2005, 12:56 PM
Yes, but TribalFootball.com is also one of the most unreliable sources of news on the web. Worse than "Bild" and about as bad as "The Sun".
BVB controls this situation no matter what the hell Rosicky may want. If Atletico doesn't meet Herr Watzke's price, Rosicky isn't going to Atletico.
If Arsenal meets Watzke's price, Watzke goes to Rosicky and says "Go to Arsenal or stay here."
Then, we really get to see how badly Rosicky wants out........ ;)
If he goes, I'd prefer Arsenal. :D
footyfan1
22 Dec 2005, 11:21 PM
If he goes, I'd prefer Arsenal. :D
The best way for either of them to get a deal done is to offer Watzke 15M. However, I think Atletico believes the press and thinks they can lowball BVB, while Arsenal either isn't really interested or think they can rob BVB again as they did when the F#CKING IDIOTS in the previous management practically GAVE Jens Lehmann to Arsenal!
Unlike those dumba$$es, Watzke seems to know what fair market value for his players is and won't accept less.
jonam
24 Dec 2005, 06:43 AM
Nigel de Jong had talks with Borussia Dortmund last Wednesday according to an interview he gave a Dutch newspaper (telegraaf). He said that Borussia is a serious option as he wants to be sure to be a permanent starter in his new club.
Arlo
24 Dec 2005, 10:02 AM
yeah same thing is written here
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Nigel de Jong is in talks with Borussia Dortmund about signing for the club next summer.
The Manchester United target is out of contract in 2006, and is keen to join a club where he will get regular football.
"For me Borussia is certainly a serious option, because it's important for me to get as much playing time as I can," he revealed.
Ajax team-mate Steven Pienaar is also likely to make the move to BVB, although that is unlikely to take place in January as initial reports had suggested.
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and looks like Rosicky won't be joining Atletico
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Borussia Dortmund have pulled out of a deal to sell Tomas Rosicky to Atletico Madrid.
The Czech Republic ace appeared primed to move to La Liga during January's transfer window, although Arsenal have been watching the situation.
Dortmund had been demanding €13 million (£9 million) before they would consent to Rosicky's New Year exit.
But Atletico only offered €9.5 million (£6.5 million) and Dortmund have now broken off negotiations with their Spanish counterparts.
"It has come out as I expected," Dortmund business manager Hans-Joachim Watzke told Die Welt.
"Atletico general manager Miguel Angel Gil has not contacted us again, so that is why it is sure Tomas will stay in Dortmund."
The Bundesliga giants' decision has left Rosicky deflated as he is now likely to stay with Dortmund for the rest of the season.
Rosicky said: "What can I do when two clubs are not able to reach an agreement? I have a contract here."
The collapse of talks could now open the way for Arsenal to make a bid, although Rosicky's agent Pavel Paska accepts it is a complex situation.
Paska said: "The talks are very complicated, I will not comment on Dortmund's statement."
footyfan1
24 Dec 2005, 12:49 PM
Nigel de Jong had talks with Borussia Dortmund last Wednesday according to an interview he gave a Dutch newspaper (telegraaf). He said that Borussia is a serious option as he wants to be sure to be a permanent starter in his new club.
I know there is a real chance this can happen, but again, I'll believe it when I see it. I do have more confidence in this management team not to blow it than I did in the old one.
footyfan1
24 Dec 2005, 12:57 PM
yeah same thing is written here
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Nigel de Jong is in talks with Borussia Dortmund about signing for the club next summer.
The Manchester United target is out of contract in 2006, and is keen to join a club where he will get regular football.
"For me Borussia is certainly a serious option, because it's important for me to get as much playing time as I can," he revealed.
Ajax team-mate Steven Pienaar is also likely to make the move to BVB, although that is unlikely to take place in January as initial reports had suggested.
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As said, I'll believe this when I see it. Not saying it won't happen, but I'll believe it when I see it......
and looks like Rosicky won't be joining Atletico
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Borussia Dortmund have pulled out of a deal to sell Tomas Rosicky to Atletico Madrid.
The Czech Republic ace appeared primed to move to La Liga during January's transfer window, although Arsenal have been watching the situation.
Dortmund had been demanding €13 million (£9 million) before they would consent to Rosicky's New Year exit.
But Atletico only offered €9.5 million (£6.5 million) and Dortmund have now broken off negotiations with their Spanish counterparts.
"It has come out as I expected," Dortmund business manager Hans-Joachim Watzke told Die Welt.
"Atletico general manager Miguel Angel Gil has not contacted us again, so that is why it is sure Tomas will stay in Dortmund."
The Bundesliga giants' decision has left Rosicky deflated as he is now likely to stay with Dortmund for the rest of the season.
Rosicky said: "What can I do when two clubs are not able to reach an agreement? I have a contract here."
The collapse of talks could now open the way for Arsenal to make a bid, although Rosicky's agent Pavel Paska accepts it is a complex situation.
Paska said: "The talks are very complicated, I will not comment on Dortmund's statement."
He was never "likely" to move to Atletico in the first place. You can't believe everything you read in the press. Obviously, Atletico believed what they read and thought they could "lowball" BVB because of our financial situation. Our old management would have probably jumped at their "lowball" offer, but this management team seems to know what our players are worth, and furthermore, won't accept anything less for them.
THIS and a fully competent trainer was what we were been missing since we won the Champions' League......
footyfan1
29 Dec 2005, 01:59 PM
Guys, please ignore the bulls#it rumors coming out of Spain that BVB has agreed to Atletico's price for Rosicky.
BVB "supremo" Hans-Joachim Watzke has already rubbished the rumor.
I'd advise you not to believe anything on this issue unless it comes from BVB.
gunner_21
03 Jan 2006, 02:39 PM
Is this accurate?
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=354031&cc=5901
footyfan1
03 Jan 2006, 02:48 PM
Is this accurate?
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=354031&cc=5901
Pretty much. And it's pretty much what I've been telling you guys the entire time.
You can't always believe what you read in the press. Especially when it comes to transfers involving BVB........
Hypo-Luxa
15 Jan 2006, 11:13 AM
So is this Frei rumour just a rumour or do Dortmund have legitimate talks in progress?
Frei would be a fantastic signing and would fit in nicely with the youth movement already firmly in place. Just hope he wouldn't cost an arm and a leg.
Plus, I'm gunning for a DeJong move myself. One of Ajax's prime assets and only a Sneijders move would make me happier...
jonam
15 Jan 2006, 11:40 AM
So is this Frei rumour just a rumour or do Dortmund have legitimate talks in progress?
Frei would be a fantastic signing and would fit in nicely with the youth movement already firmly in place. Just hope he wouldn't cost an arm and a leg.
Plus, I'm gunning for a DeJong move myself. One of Ajax's prime assets and only a Sneijders move would make me happier...
Rumours are that BVB and Frei already agreed on a possible contract. Still I am pessimistic as IMHO we won't be able to satisfy Rennes' demands. We should rather look out for Bosman-transfers and use our transfer money wisely.
The Old Lady Hertha
15 Jan 2006, 11:52 AM
Frei is too expensive for most clubs in die Bundesliga. His own goal-scoring record maybe his undoing if he wants to go a big club, because it seems no one is willing to pony up that kind of money for a Ligue Un top scorer...
footyfan1
15 Jan 2006, 01:21 PM
Rumours are that BVB and Frei already agreed on a possible contract. Still I am pessimistic as IMHO we won't be able to satisfy Rennes' demands. We should rather look out for Bosman-transfers and use our transfer money wisely.
Agree TOTALLY!!!
footyfan1
15 Jan 2006, 01:25 PM
Frei is too expensive for most clubs in die Bundesliga. His own goal-scoring record maybe his undoing if he wants to go a big club, because it seems no one is willing to pony up that kind of money for a Ligue Un top scorer...
Agree. I wouldn't pay what they want for Frei. There will be a few interesting youngsters available either cheap or free within the Bundesliga.
Hypo-Luxa
15 Jan 2006, 02:02 PM
Understood and I realize why Rennes would command such a high fee. That's why I was taken aback by the rumour in general, not because of a lack of ambition, moreso a lack of desire to shell out such a massive amount on someone whose talent could maybe we could get for cheaper somewhere else.
jonam
15 Jan 2006, 05:23 PM
Bayern join Rosicky race:
http://www.football.co.uk/news/bayern_join_rosicky_race_217315.shtml