Walcott to Arsenal??

[sinner78]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/southampton/4608456.stm


I see that Arsenal have apparently ignored their defensive needs and bought yet another striker .Wenger should just forget about defence and field a whole team of forwards .

Also this could be another waste of homegrown talent .Walcott has just joined the jermaine pennant/david bentley/francis jeffers/ club .He will probably get 3 years of reserve football and then get shipped out to Wolves in 2009 or something .I hope he doesnt mind getting the occasional league cup run out and being behind a large number of strikers in the pecking order.

[sarabella]

I see that Arsenal have apparently ignored their defensive needs and bought yet another striker .Wenger should just forget about defence and field a whole team of forwards .

Maybe he's trying to ditch the "boring, boring Arsenal" moniker? At least a team of all forwards would make an interesting game.

[The Potter]

In fairness to Arsenal, Bentley and Jeffers are shite.

[sendorange]

If it happens, which it hasn't yet, he could not have picked a worse club for a young english player. Even Chelski would be better, as at least they're good at loaning players out and he'd be getting bundles of money.

[COBRA007]

If it happens, which it hasn't yet, he could not have picked a worse club for a young english player. Even Chelski would be better, as at least they're good at loaning players out and he'd be getting bundles of money.

hes picked the best club. the english players at arsenal before were simply not good enough

[sinner78]

ignoring fake007 for a sec..
sendo is right.
bad move for walcott .see if he likes spending the next 3 years in the reserve leagues .

Arsene whinger has phobia about home players and likes to pick total no-hopers like allou toure ,flamini ,igor stepanovs etc etc rather than give them a shot.
I was hoping Walcott would stay down at southampton until he is 19 and then try a bigger club.

[COBRA007]

ignoring fake007 for a sec..
sendo is right.
bad move for walcott .see if he likes spending the next 3 years in the reserve leagues .

Arsene whinger has phobia about home players and likes to pick total no-hopers like allou toure ,flamini ,igor stepanovs etc etc rather than give them a shot.
I was hoping Walcott would stay down at southampton until he is 19 and then try a bigger club.

why would walcott spend 3 years in reserve? hes 17 in 6 months and if hes the real deal (and has already shown he got lots of pace and skill to go with it) he will get a plenty of action in the 1st team.

[michaec]

To those who obviously have no clue whatsoever:

1. Wenger has spent money (and fairly big money at that) on English players of the likes of Jeffers, Wright and Pennant (£2m for a 15 year old) before and got burned. Buying players like Jeffers and Wright especially entails paying relatively big wages as they were established in the Premiership. Contrast those players to Senderos, Fabregas and even Flamini who keep themselves out of trouble and get paid less. It's a no-brainer as to why he buys from the continent as long as prats like Pennant seem intent on wasting the talent they have. Saying all that he's still seems to be prepared to take a large gamble on Walcott. If the kid has got what it takes then he'll play, Fabregas played almost the whole season last year at the age of 17 and he's first choice this season. I would imagine Walcott will start in the reserves, but if he's as good as everyone makes out he should be pressuring the underperforming Ljungberg, Pires and Hleb for their places pretty soon.

2. Arsenal loan out young players for experience as much as any other top-flight clubs. David Bentley (Blackburn), Justin Hoyte (Sunderland), Ryan Smith (Leicester) are currently out on loan. Pennant and Jeffers were loaned out before they left. I could give you a long list of others if you like. The reason you hear more about the Chelsea players being loaned out is because it's more of a story if they buy yet another international midfielder and loan him out straight away, not because they loan out more young players. It doesn't make much sense to me, but I'm sure Mourinho has his reasons.

3. Buying on Arsenal's budget means that we are prone to having a few duds brought in by the manager. If you spend £19m on Ricard Carvalho you know what you're getting, £1m on Igors Stepanovs and you're taking a chance. There's no comparison between the transfer deals that Arsenal and Chelsea do. why not talk about Vieira, Petit, Anelka, Overmars, Ljungberg, Henry who were going nowhere or unknowns before Wenger brought them to Arsenal?

4. I have read in the stories in the press that Walcott chose Arsenal over other offers, the clubs mentioned are Spurs, Chelsea and Liverpool. I have even read that Chelsea offered to better any other offer (although I don't think that was concretely backed up). The player's wishes count for a lot here as he could refuse to sign a professional contract when he's 17 and have any fee set by a tribunal. Southampton would likely get around £2m then as opposed to the £10m+ being talked about now.

[sendorange]

To those who obviously have no clue whatsoever:

1. Wenger has spent money (and fairly big money at that) on English players of the likes of Jeffers, Wright and Pennant (£2m for a 15 year old) before and got burned. Buying players like Jeffers and Wright especially entails paying relatively big wages as they were established in the Premiership. Contrast those players to Senderos, Fabregas and even Flamini who keep themselves out of trouble and get paid less. It's a no-brainer as to why he buys from the continent as long as prats like Pennant seem intent on wasting the talent they have. Saying all that he's still seems to be prepared to take a large gamble on Walcott. If the kid has got what it takes then he'll play, Fabregas played almost the whole season last year at the age of 17 and he's first choice this season. I would imagine Walcott will start in the reserves, but if he's as good as everyone makes out he should be pressuring the underperforming Ljungberg, Pires and Hleb for their places pretty soon.
You have missed off Upson. What exactly did he do to deserve getting no games, while an inferior but french speaking player like Cygan can keep getting opportunities in the team to prove himself? I bet Cygan has been on a fair whack of money as well.

[Teso Dos Bichos]

Walcott's agent Colin Gordon told BBC Sport: "Our only concern is Theo's best interest and development as a player."

Just shows his stupidity if he follows through with the move. We all know Arsenal's track record at developing young English talent. He would also be moving to a club in decline that doesn't even need him. This is just Arsene buying him to prevent Chelsea from getting him. It's really sad to see good young talent wasted, but that is all that will happen should this move go ahread.


1. Just proves that Wenger cannot be trusted when it comes to identifying and developing young English talent. In fact, his overall record of developing any young talent is pretty poor.

2. Not as much as clubs who are better at developing young talent. Wenger seems to send players out on loan (usually English) because he refuses to give them a chance in the side. Case in point being Lauren. He's a poor excuse for a right-back back (he's actually a midfielder) but does Hoyte get a chance? Does he hell. Bentley and Smith could have been used but Wenger prefers to stick with his underperforming foreigners. Upson perhaps...

3. You spend quite a lot of money on these unknowns. Are you trying to saw that Wenger's so-called great talent at identifying and developing young players is really a case of if he buys so many, a few have to come good? That would appear to be the case if looking at his overall transfer record.

4. He won't be the first idiot who makes a poor career choice. I can only hope he is still in one piece when he gets turfed out the other end. :(

[sinner78]

http://www.sportinglife.com/football/premiership/arsenal/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/06/01/09/manual_134225.html&TEAMHD=arsenal&DIV=prem&TEAM=ARSENAL&RH=Arsenal&PREV_SEASON=


the arse squad for the wigan game.

Arsenal (from): Almunia, Poom, Gilbert, Fabregas, Djourou, Senderos, Owusu-Abeyie, Ljungberg, Hleb, Larsson, Reyes, Lupoli, Bendtner, Flamini, Cygan, Gilberto.


says it all .lol
Walcott would even be behind lupoli in the pecking order.

[COBRA007]

Walcott's agent Colin Gordon told BBC Sport: "Our only concern is Theo's best interest and development as a player."

Just shows his stupidity if he follows through with the move. We all know Arsenal's track record at developing young English talent. He would also be moving to a club in decline that doesn't even need him. This is just Arsene buying him to prevent Chelsea from getting him. It's really sad to see good young talent wasted, but that is all that will happen should this move go ahread.


1. Just proves that Wenger cannot be trusted when it comes to identifying and developing young English talent. In fact, his overall record of developing any young talent is pretty poor.

2. Not as much as clubs who are better at developing young talent. Wenger seems to send players out on loan (usually English) because he refuses to give them a chance in the side. Case in point being Lauren. He's a poor excuse for a right-back back (he's actually a midfielder) but does Hoyte get a chance? Does he hell. Bentley and Smith could have been used but Wenger prefers to stick with his underperforming foreigners. Upson perhaps...

3. You spend quite a lot of money on these unknowns. Are you trying to saw that Wenger's so-called great talent at identifying and developing young players is really a case of if he buys so many, a few have to come good? That would appear to be the case if looking at his overall transfer record.

4. He won't be the first idiot who makes a poor career choice. I can only hope he is still in one piece when he gets turfed out the other end. :(

arsenals previous england players were simply good enough. why would walcott be wasted at arsenal. he would be training with top quality players and coaches and would get chances like fabregas has

[sinner78]

I remember the hype about jermaine pennant .He was a real hot talent when they signed him .More talented than alot of players in his age group .he then joins arse and never gets a game .Gets loaned out a couple of times ,etc etc..
ends up getting involved in off field sh1te .
The hype about pennant was probably just as big as walcott at the time.

oooooppss

[COBRA007]

http://www.sportinglife.com/football/premiership/arsenal/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/06/01/09/manual_134225.html&TEAMHD=arsenal&DIV=prem&TEAM=ARSENAL&RH=Arsenal&PREV_SEASON=


the arse squad for the wigan game.

Arsenal (from): Almunia, Poom, Gilbert, Fabregas, Djourou, Senderos, Owusu-Abeyie, Ljungberg, Hleb, Larsson, Reyes, Lupoli, Bendtner, Flamini, Cygan, Gilberto.


says it all .lol
Walcott would even be behind lupoli in the pecking order.

wallcott would be behind lupoli? obviously you know ******** all about walcott

[The Potter]

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Bliss.

[sinner78]

wallcott would be behind lupoli? obviously you know ******** all about walcott


at arsenal he would behind lupoli .
Ive seen walcott and he looks decent .He wouldnt see any first team action for ages .Arse have also signed that top mexican kid and sent him to spain .

[COBRA007]

I remember the hype about jermaine pennant .He was a real hot talent when they signed him .More talented than alot of players in his age group .he then joins arse and never gets a game .Gets loaned out a couple of times ,etc etc..
ends up getting involved in off field sh1te .
The hype about pennant was probably just as big as walcott at the time.

oooooppss

no he was not. walcott is very special for a english player, touches skill. hes possible rooney class

[COBRA007]

at arsenal he would behind lupoli .
Ive seen walcott and he looks decent .He wouldnt see any first team action for ages .Arse have also signed that top mexican kid and sent him to spain .

no way behind lupoli, hes much more special and alot better then lupoli, would wenger sign quincy or lupoli for up to 15 million, no. you know nothing

[sendorange]

Bliss.
Done the same thing :D

[sinner78]

no way behind lupoli, hes much more special and alot better then lupoli, would wenger sign quincy or lupoli for up to 15 million, no. you know nothing

hahaha ,he buys nothing but strikers if you actually paid any attention to his deals .How many strikers and forwards have they got on their books?? hleb ,henry ,ven persie ,bergkamp ,lupoli ,etc.....
I dont see how walcott can crack that lineup any time soon ,faker007 .