Hypothetically speaking......

[qazwsx]

Which Chelsea play would most benefit the likes of Arsenal, Manchester United and Liverpool and why? (purely on playing ability)

And which player from those clubs listed would be of most benefit to Chelsea and why? (also based on their likely performances not on whether you like or dislike the players personality)

Opposition fans are welcome to post their own from their teams prospective.



Heres mine (obviously from a Chelsea prospective):

I think Gallas would probably most benefit Arsenal FC. I think Arsenal are crying out for a good quick support defender to partner the more dominating style of Campbell/Senderos like Gallas supports Terry at Chelsea. Gallas is also very versatile, something Arsenal would require given their relatively thin squad (compared to their rivals). A shout out would also go to Essien who I think would fit in very well as a replacement for Viera.

For the Manc's, i'd say Essien the Chelsea player of most use to them. They desperately need a good strong combative centre mid to replace Roy Keane and get the ball up to Van Nistlerooy and Rooney early so they can do some damage. I might have said John Terry prior to their signing of that Vidic fella.

For Liverpool, I'd say probably Damien Duff as Liverpool are most in need of a good winger for their 4-3-3 formation and to whip in crosses for beanpole Crouch. A shout out would also got to Arjen Robben who is explosive, but not as tactically mindfull or consistant as Duff.



As for who i'd take from each club.......

From Arsenal it would have to be Thierry Henry. He'd have to move out to a kinda left wing position over here, but he is quality no doubt and to be frank theres no one else i'd really want from Arsenal football club at the present time, except maybe Cesc Fabregas.

From Manchester United i'd pick Rooney. Again, like Henry, he doesn't really have a concrete role he could fit into in Chelsea's 4-3-3. But I think he could be developed into a good creative central midfield partner for Lampard if Mourinho could improve his defensive game thereby playing a similar role to what Gudjohnsen does for us now. I can't think of anyone else i'd really want from them at the moment either. Maybe Ruud Van Nistelrooy on a short term basis if Crespo leaves the club.

From Liverpool, I can't split Xabi Alonso and Steven Gerrard. Alonso would cover Lampard defensively thereby letting him (Lampard) push forward and score goals like he has been for us so far this season and last while at the same time, setting up play from deep with his accurate passing. Gerrard would be more of a ball winner and that would be handy given that this is the Premier League but would need both Lampard and Gerrard would need to adapt tactically to cover one and another properly in a defensive sense.

Whats everyone elses views? (remembering that this is HYPOTHETICAL)

[nicephoras]

Arsenal could most use Lampard - a player who can distribute from midfield and actually take shots.
ManUtd could most use Terry or Makelele. (Rio needs a solid partner and Essien is to offensive minded to play in Smith's position).
Liverpool could most use Gallas - a fast CB besided Carragher. Then they wouldn't have to pack their midfield all the time.

We would take - Gerrard from Liverpool. Slots in for Essien perfectly, and right now he's better. English, too. Don't need anyone else from them. Moro'd make a nice sub, I guess.
From Utd its clearly Ruud. Well built to play in a 4-3-3 and was a clinical finisher (is now scoring only against crap sides). Rooney has no business in our formation, we'd have to alter our entire team to suit him. The player I'd say second was........Cronaldo. No, seriously. Mourinho might actually make him productive, like he did Cole. Cronaldo and Robben on either wing would be fun on the counter, eh?
From Arsenal, no one. Not because they aren't good enough (well, I wouldn't take quite a few for that reason) but because Henry so badly fits into our formation. Perhaps Ashley Cole. Cole is better than del Horno, but we don't need all that much width from our left backs.

[yasik19]

I'd take Gerrard, Rooney and Henry.

All those teams need Jose. :D

[blackjack]

I too think Arsenal need Gallas more than anybody. He could play anywhere in their defense, and they badly need somebody like that.

United need Essien. They need somebody who can control the midfield. As for his being too attack-minded to play in Smith's position, that doesn't matter. Their formation is always changing these days, and he doesn't attack any more than Keane did. He'd provide consistency and stability that Smith can't.

Liverpool could really use Joe Cole. He'd give them that penetrating force in attack that they don't really have. Kewell and Garcia don't quite measure up. Between him and Gerrard, the strikers would have some very quality passes to run onto.


We don't need any of Arsenal's players. None. Henry doesn't fit in our system. Cole has been no better than Del Horno this year. I prefer Gallas to Campbell.

From United, it's Van Nistelrooy. He'd fit quite well in the 4-3-3. Imagine having him to bring on if Crespo wasn't playing well. It would be fantastic.

From Liverpool, Gerrard would be useful. As Nicephoras said, he's like Essien, but better and English.

[nicephoras]

Not sure why everyone's saying Gallas for Arsenal. Their defense has been OK; its been their goalscoring that's been awful. Did you see the game against United? They looked afraid to take a damn shot!

[Dave_M]

All those teams need Jose. :D

I dunno, im not sure he would be much use at Arsenal. Im not sure he could do a better job than Wenger, at least not with a sack full of money anyway.

[nicephoras]

He might with the bunch you have now, who're so listless at the moment. You look like a club in dire need of a shakeup of some sort. Perhaps Wenger can deliver it; he probably can. He's certainly earned the time to prove he hasn't.

[yossarian]

Arsenal could most use Lampard - a player who can distribute from midfield and actually take shots.

While the current lack of outside shooting has been driving me nuts.....I think its a closer call as to who we could use most between Lampard and Essien. Lampard would be a great addition but Essien would free up Cesc to focus more of his efforts on offense and distribution....and with that, I think that goal scoring problem of which you speak might clear up. Either player would certainly be a good addition.


From Arsenal, no one. Not because they aren't good enough (well, I wouldn't take quite a few for that reason) but because Henry so badly fits into our formation. Perhaps Ashley Cole. Cole is better than del Horno, but we don't need all that much width from our left backs.

Yeah, you'd have to change how you play up top to accomodate Henry. Although if you played a straight 442, I think Henry and Crespo would complement each other quite well. But that would mean either Essien or Makalele wouldn't be used as the midfield would be Robben; Lampard; (Mak/Essien); Duff.

[yossarian]

I too think Arsenal need Gallas more than anybody. He could play anywhere in their defense, and they badly need somebody like that.

We don't need any of Arsenal's players. None. Henry doesn't fit in our system. Cole has been injured most of this year. I prefer Gallas to Campbell.


Fixed your post.

[yasik19]

I dunno, im not sure he would be much use at Arsenal. Im not sure he could do a better job than Wenger, at least not with a sack full of money anyway.

perhaps. Jose has a different mentality when it comes to his players and it seems to me, "different" is what Arsenal needs at the moment.

[Rewinder]

perhaps. Jose has a different mentality when it comes to his players and it seems to me, "different" is what Arsenal needs at the moment.

Perhaps, but its money we really need at the moment.

The most useful person in chelsea we could use would be.....ROMAN ABRAMOVICH!!!!:D

He could pay off our stadium loans for a starter, and then give us around 100-150m for transfers, then we'll invite him to Wengers summer home on the coast where we will all play foozball.

[blackjack]

Fixed your post.

Yeah, Cole's probably better when he's on his best form. But if you're talking about someone to play out the rest of this season, I want Del Horno, because he's more likely to be fit for the big matches.

[gaijin]

As a Boro fan - Didier Drogba would be an excellent player for us. Not so because he'd add depth to the front-line and add bit of danger in the air - but mainly so I can hurl bricks at him from the North Stand. :)














Honestly though? Any chance of Huth coming on loan - we stink at the back.

[yasik19]

Perhaps, but its money we really need at the moment.

The most useful person in chelsea we could use would be.....ROMAN ABRAMOVICH!!!!:D

He could pay off our stadium loans for a starter, and then give us around 100-150m for transfers, then we'll invite him to Wengers summer home on the coast where we will all play foozball.

i was going to say RA, but i was afraid i'd be banned.:D

[nicephoras]

Honestly though? Any chance of Huth coming on loan - we stink at the back.

I'd love for that to happen, even if the chances of it are pretty slim. Not that I have any fondness for Boro, mind you, just that I want Huth to get playing time.

[Dave_M]

perhaps. Jose has a different mentality when it comes to his players and it seems to me, "different" is what Arsenal needs at the moment.

What we need to do is take a shot some time this season. As Nicephoras says we seem to be affraid to have a go at the moment. v. Persie not withstanding of course.

[nicephoras]

What we need to do is take a shot some time this season. As Nicephoras says we seem to be affraid to have a go at the moment. v. Persie not withstanding of course.

Yeah, but I don't think he's that good; he merely looks very good against poor teams, imho. Although he's certainly young and talented.
You need someone who'll shoot from midfield, and well. And who can pass.

[johno]

Chelsea could definitely use Ruud and Ronaldo, Rooney should also fit into Gudjohnsen's role if forced, but he's more effective in a 442. From Liverpool Gerrard is Essien's possible replacement and also back up for Lampard. Henry wouldn't fit into the Chelsea team seamlessly but he'd be far from a failure and he'd definitely increase the quality in the squad.

Liverpool would take Ruud, Rooney, Ronaldo, Rio, Gallas, Fereira, Henry and possibly Lampard as well, although Alonso would not really be compatible with him.

United would take Gerrard, Essien, Lampard, Sissoko, Makalele, Gallas and Robben... the first 5 players are all CMs, United need depth and quality at both CM positions and each player in that list would walk into the midfield. Gallas would give United a really solid pair of CBs possibly allieviating the pain of a weak central midfield. Robben would replace the aging Giggs and add some depth on the LW.

[Walter3000]

Chelsea could definitely use Ruud and Ronaldo, Rooney should also fit into Gudjohnsen's role if forced, but he's more effective in a 442. From Liverpool Gerrard is Essien's possible replacement and also back up for Lampard. Henry wouldn't fit into the Chelsea team seamlessly but he'd be far from a failure and he'd definitely increase the quality in the squad.

Liverpool would take Ruud, Rooney, Ronaldo, Rio, Gallas, Fereira, Henry and possibly Lampard as well, although Alonso would not really be compatible with him.

United would take Gerrard, Essien, Lampard, Sissoko, Makalele, Gallas and Robben... the first 5 players are all CMs, United need depth and quality at both CM positions and each player in that list would walk into the midfield. Gallas would give United a really solid pair of CBs possibly allieviating the pain of a weak central midfield. Robben would replace the aging Giggs and add some depth on the LW.

Why would we need ROnaldo, we have Joe Cole.

[yasik19]

Why would we need ROnaldo, we have Joe Cole.

we need to have someone to make fun of. That's why.