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__Dynamite__
29 Dec 2005, 08:28 AM
There are no easy opponents for Germany anymore since arround 1996 or so ;).

Yeah, that`s what the english say ;)

dovifat
29 Dec 2005, 01:50 PM
Is there any particular reason Klinsmann never calls up Malik Fathi ? If Lahm returns or even surpasses his former level he's first choice of course, but Fathi is a constant and proven defender, something you can't say about Jansen and whomever else Juergen fielded in that position. Arguably Marvin Matip could have been called up as a backup CD as well.

Only reason i could imagine is Eilts kicked his ass for poaching half of his U21 team already. ( In theory these guys could choose to play for Ghana/Turkey still, but that's highly unlikely... )

smithfan
29 Dec 2005, 02:12 PM
The turkish coach wants Malik fathi to play for Turkey. Fathi always said that he wants to play for Germany but right now, he has no hopes that Klinsmann nominates him. Who knows, maybe he'll say yes to Turkey someday! :(

dovifat
29 Dec 2005, 02:34 PM
The turkish coach wants Malik fathi to play for Turkey. Fathi always said that he wants to play for Germany but right now, he has no hopes that Klinsmann nominates him. Who knows, maybe he'll say yes to Turkey someday! :(

I'm certainly not fond of the tactics of certain European teams to cap players eligible to play for other counties once and let them rot afterwards. But at this point Lahm/Jansen as offensive options and Fathi as defensive one look like a no brainer to me. Am i missing anything ?

Buschkauz
29 Dec 2005, 03:54 PM
----------------Kahn-----------------
--Friedrich--Metzelder--Ismael ;)--Lahm
-----------------Borowski---------------------
------Deisler---------------- Schweinsteiger---
----------------Ballack-------------------
-----------------------Podolski-----------
---------Klose----------------------------

shutoutj
29 Dec 2005, 03:57 PM
----------------Kahn-----------------
--Friedrich--Metzelder--Ismael ;)--Lahm
-----------------Borowski---------------------
------Deisler---------------- Schweinsteiger---
----------------Ballack-------------------
-----------------------Podolski-----------
---------Klose----------------------------
lol
Same as this guy except Borowski on the right and Kehl in DM. And Mertesacker for Ismael.

Buschkauz
29 Dec 2005, 04:01 PM
yes, kehl or frings in dm too, and frings and borowski in right midfield

ohk4
29 Dec 2005, 10:37 PM
I'm certainly not fond of the tactics of certain European teams to cap players eligible to play for other counties once and let them rot afterwards.

examples?

The Old Lady Hertha
03 Jan 2006, 01:42 AM
Who should be the final 23 for Germany in WC 2006?

I got:
Kahn
Lehmann
Hildebrand
Friedrich
Hinkel
Lahm
Fathi
Metzelder
Mertesacker
Sinkiewicz
Frings
Kehl
Asamoah
Schneider
Deisler
Schweinsteiger
Ballack
Borowski
Kuranyi
Podolski
Klose
Kiessling
Huth

ForeverRed
03 Jan 2006, 02:59 AM
Who should be the final 23 for Germany in WC 2006?

I got:
Kahn
Lehmann
Hildebrand
Friedrich
Hinkel
Lahm
Fathi
Metzelder
Mertesacker
Sinkiewicz
Frings
Kehl
Asamoah
Schneider
Deisler
Schweinsteiger
Ballack
Borowski
Kuranyi
Podolski
Klose
Kiessling
Huth

It is pretty much what I have in mind although there are a few players who I wouldn't count on being in the squad just yet...Hildebrand for one...Enke and Weidenfeller have both been having better seasons than him. Asamoah is quite inconsistent and is injured, isn't he? Fathi is still not a sure bet, same with Sienkewicz as well as Kiessling...they've been playing well for their respective clubs but are very inexperienced, this compared to an already inexperienced squad. And I seriously hope doesn't make the team, simply because he isn't playing at all for Chelsea...Mourinho gives him pity minutes ever 15 matches...that is ridiculous and a slap in the face to the national team. At this point, I'd take the aging Woerms instead of Huth...nothing against Robert, I like him as a player but its the damn principle!!!!!!! Also, Lehman is having a terrific season for Arsenal but who knows how he might act up again with his childish demands to be the first keeper.

Jaison
03 Jan 2006, 03:46 AM
My 23 man roster:

GK:
Kahn
Lehmann
Weidenfeller


Defense:
Friedrich
Volz
Mertesacker
Metzelder
Sinkiewicz
Wörns
Lahm
Fathi


Midfield:
Ballack
Schweinsteiger
Deisler
Frings
Kehl
Borowski
Schneider
Jansen (Like BMG did, I would move him to a more attacking role on the left, it suits him better)

Forwards:
Klose
Podolski
Kuranyi
Kiessling

PileD
04 Jan 2006, 06:38 PM
My 23 man roster:

GK:
Kahn
Lehmann
Weidenfeller


Defense:
Friedrich
Volz
Mertesacker
Metzelder
Sinkiewicz
Wörns
Lahm
Fathi


Midfield:
Ballack
Schweinsteiger
Deisler
Frings
Kehl
Borowski
Schneider
Jansen (Like BMG did, I would move him to a more attacking role on the left, it suits him better)

Forwards:
Klose
Podolski
Kuranyi
Kiessling


A half year to go and I`ve really no ideas.

"Eisenfuß" Eilts
05 Jan 2006, 06:06 PM
Not many changes to Jaison:

GK:
Kahn
Lehmann
Enke (deserves it, but Klinsmann will name Hildebrand)


Defense:
Friedrich
Owomoyela (ok, i am biased)
Mertesacker
Metzelder
Sinkiewicz
Huth
Lahm
Jansen


Midfield:
Ballack
Schweinsteiger
Deisler
Frings
Kehl
Borowski
Schneider
Meier

Forwards:
Klose
Podolski
Kuranyi
Kiessling (plays good currently, but has to prove it in NT, Klinsi should give him a chance)

auf Amerika
06 Jan 2006, 06:58 PM
What will happen in Germany if they don't qualify for the final 16 or even make it to the final 8?

I love Klinsmann, but this German team clearly isn't a top 4 team in the world and will have a difficult time, even if playing at home. Will Germans go crazy and burn a city down? Will lots of them jump in the Rhine or Donau and let themselves float away? Will they attack Poland?

I will suck for sure and lots of children will cry, but how will it make you feel and what will you do about it?

... cause it could happen.

Dead Fingers
06 Jan 2006, 07:29 PM
Hey auf Amerika

kind of a thread already on this in the World Cup forum
http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=278622

Cheers!

Natrium
07 Jan 2006, 06:21 AM
If we tank in the World Cup, I expect the DFB to be put Klinsmann in the next plane to California for good and sign a decent coach like Hitzfeld or Rehhagel, maybe even Daum.

tourismusfilm.de
07 Jan 2006, 11:10 PM
why does the german team not reach the final?

is the biggest problem the defense? or what? :confused: ;)

King-James
07 Jan 2006, 11:33 PM
Huth will forget that they're playing soccer, not rugby, in their own 18. :eek:

arthur d
08 Jan 2006, 07:41 PM
I will suck for sure

Wo er recht hat hat er recht. :D

Wotan
08 Jan 2006, 08:47 PM
I hear really good things about this young German striker. Got a red card in Germany's last International game...& now, may be out of 1st or 1st & 2nd game of World Cup.

Now, I read that coach Klinnsman is appealing this suspension. Looks like Klinnsman really wants him on NT.

My question to those more informed than I on Int' soccer & the German sports news. Does Klinnsman have a chance to be successful in this effort??? Please, any Germany fans (Or Wolfsburg.....or soccer fans "in the know")---Thanks---Wotan