View Full Version : Religion, Spirituality, AND Morality?
chad
05 Jan 2006, 07:17 PM
No offense, but it is pretty sophomoric to put morality with the other two.
Bob Morocco
05 Jan 2006, 09:42 PM
I think secular philosophical discussions should be included.
christopher d
05 Jan 2006, 11:16 PM
No offense, but it is pretty sophomoric to put morality with the other two.
None taken.
Atheists and agnostics may not see ethical issues as related to religion, while those of a religious bent often derive their sense of ethics from their religion.
If you have a different view, please feel free to elaborate.
chad
05 Jan 2006, 11:45 PM
None taken.
Atheists and agnostics may not see scientific issues as related to religion, while those of a religious bent often derive their sense of science from their religion.
If you have a different view, please feel free to elaborate.
Fixed your post to help you.
christopher d
05 Jan 2006, 11:53 PM
I'm of a religious bent, and I don't derive my sense of science from religion. I know lots of other religious people, and not a one of them derives their sense of science from religion, but that's besides the point.
This is more on point: You swapped "ethics" for "science". Why?
Chicago1871
06 Jan 2006, 12:13 AM
On Morality.
In an earlier discussion there was an article linked to where the author said something along the lines of "the last thing we want is to take away the external moral compass of billions of people who don't believe they have an internal one."
YankHibee
06 Jan 2006, 12:33 AM
how 'bout moral/ethical phenomenology. we'll have a BS abbreviation of mep. that should get really obnoxious fast. or just morality. most of us are not smart enough to be philosophy profs. morality will do for a soccer board (Chad if I were in one of your classes or teaching a philosophy course I'd be arguing along your side).
christopher d
06 Jan 2006, 12:54 AM
On Morality.
In an earlier discussion there was an article linked to where the author said something along the lines of "the last thing we want is to take away the external moral compass of billions of people who don't believe they have an internal one."
Which poses an interesting question: do those who consider themselves religious (as opposed to "spiritual, but not religious", for whom the answer is much more clear) believe they draw their moral compass internally or externally? Perhaps other religious folks (of whatever persuasion) can comment.
Personally, the religion of my youth had much to do with forming that moral compass, but the compass itself was (and is) kept internal. My current religious leanings give but one moral maxim: "Harm none". That leaves plenty of room for one's own interpretation by one's own moral compass. Of course, your experience and results may vary.
argentine soccer fan
06 Jan 2006, 07:15 AM
No offense, but it is pretty sophomoric to put morality with the other two.
Sophomoric? Not really. It's all in Kant's writings.
I'm still trying to figure out exactly what he meant, though. :D
chad
06 Jan 2006, 09:19 AM
Sophomoric? Not really. It's all in Kant's writings.
I'm still trying to figure out exactly what he meant, though. :D
Quite clearly you are, since you are completely wrong.
I'll leave it at this: the forum title is stupid and uneducated. Keep it if you must, but I don't see any good reason for doing so.
Mel Brennan
06 Jan 2006, 01:15 PM
No offense, but it is pretty sophomoric to put morality with the other two.
This is correct.
Yankee_Blue
07 Jan 2006, 05:28 PM
Quite clearly you are, since you are completely wrong.
I'll leave it at this: the forum title is stupid and uneducated. Keep it if you must, but I don't see any good reason for doing so.
Sorry. You are wrong.
chad
07 Jan 2006, 07:13 PM
Sorry. You are wrong.
Wrong about what?
YankHibee
07 Jan 2006, 07:23 PM
Wrong about what?
Darn Socratic method.:rolleyes:
chad
07 Jan 2006, 07:26 PM
Darn Socratic method.:rolleyes:
If you know what he was talking about, please tell me.
YankHibee
07 Jan 2006, 07:32 PM
If you know what he was talking about, please tell me.
No idea. You're right, I just think the point is lost here.
spejic
08 Jan 2006, 08:11 AM
No offense, but it is pretty sophomoric to put morality with the other two.Why? The title of the forum simply lists the topics that can be discussed in that forum. For example, there is a "Business and Media" forum. That does not mean those topics cannot be discussed separately, only that those are the two possible focuses of the posts in that forum. For a forum that can cover all sorts of religious and moral topics, this title is perfectly suitable.
MikeLastort2
08 Jan 2006, 08:44 AM
Why? The title of the forum simply lists the topics that can be discussed in that forum. For example, there is a "Business and Media" forum. That does not mean those topics cannot be discussed separately, only that those are the two possible focuses of the posts in that forum. For a forum that can cover all sorts of religious and moral topics, this title is perfectly suitable.
I don't want to speak for Chad, but I think his point is that the forum should've been named "religion and spirituality."
chad
08 Jan 2006, 11:59 AM
I don't want to speak for Chad, but I think his point is that the forum should've been named "religion and spirituality."
Exactly.
bigredfutbol
08 Jan 2006, 01:21 PM
Anybody notice that CNN has added a "Faith & Values" correspondent lately?