Lavolpe hace su primera convocatoria

[LMvCP]

http://www.elnorte.com/deportes/articulo/276220/


Oswaldo Sánchez Guadalajara Portero
Moisés Muñoz Morelia Portero
Salvador Carmona Toluca Defensa
Duilio Davino América Defensa
Alberto Salinas América Defensa
Joel Sánchez Guadalajara Defensa
Héctor Altamirano Santos Defensa
José Antonio Castro América Defensa
Pável Pardo América Mediocampista
Carlos Morales Morelia Mediocampista
Israel López Toluca Mediocampista
Ramón Morales Guadalajara Mediocampista
Jesús Arellano Monterrey Mediocampista
Diego Martínez Necaxa Mediocampista
Luis Pérez Monterrey Mediocampista
Juan P. Rodríguez Atlas Mediocampista
Eduardo Rergis Atlante Mediocampista
Cuauhtémoc Blanco América Delantero
Fernando Arce Veracruz Delantero
Jared Borgetti Santos Delantero
Jesús Olalde Tigres Delantero
Braulio Luna Necaxa Delantero

[Various Styles]

Oswaldo Sánchez Guadalajara Portero
Moisés Muñoz Morelia Portero

Good Choice in Keepers. Sanchez is the obvious first pick while Muñoz has shown to be a promising player. Despite what Lavolpe said about not calling Cruz Azul and Pumas players because of Copa Libertadores i dont think El Conejo will be starting keeper for the new Tri. Lavolpe who used to be a keeper is from the old school that keepers with good height have a better advantage.

Salvador Carmona Toluca Defensa
Duilio Davino América Defensa
Alberto Salinas América Defensa
Joel Sánchez Guadalajara Defensa
Héctor Altamirano Santos Defensa
José Antonio Castro América Defensa

Will Castro and Salinas be the next Villa and Lara. I am sure that the new Americanistas are more talented but i dont think they have done anything so far to merrit a call up to the National Team. I would have liked to see Maragarito Gonzales.


Pável Pardo América Mediocampista
Carlos Morales Morelia Mediocampista
Israel López Toluca Mediocampista
Ramón Morales Guadalajara Mediocampista
Jesús Arellano Monterrey Mediocampista
Diego Martínez Necaxa Mediocampista
Luis Pérez Monterrey Mediocampista
Juan P. Rodríguez Atlas Mediocampista
Eduardo Rergis Atlante Mediocampista

Decent list of Midfielders especially considering the fact that Lavolpe called up his boys from Atlas. It will be interesting to see if Pardo and Juan P can get back to their old form.

Cuauhtémoc Blanco América Delantero
Fernando Arce Veracruz Delantero
Jared Borgetti Santos Delantero
Jesús Olalde Tigres Delantero
Braulio Luna Necaxa Delantero

Arce and Olalde dont convince me.. I would have prefered to see De Nigris and Bautista or even Mendoza !!!

[LMvCP]

Originally posted by Various Styles
Good Choice in Keepers. Sanchez is the obvious first pick while Muñoz has shown to be a promising player. Despite what Lavolpe said about not calling Cruz Azul and Pumas players because of Copa Libertadores i dont think El Conejo will be starting keeper for the new Tri. Lavolpe who used to be a keeper is from the old school that keepers with good height have a better advantage.

I am not worried about this position. We have good experienced keepers in Sanchez & Perez.. and some good up and coming keepers in Becerra, Martinez, and Muñoz

Will Castro and Salinas be the next Villa and Lara. I am sure that the new Americanistas are more talented but i dont think they have done anything so far to merrit a call up to the National Team. I would have liked to see Maragarito Gonzales.

Not defending them because they are Americanistas, but they have done more than de Nigris or even Bofo when they got called up to the national team.

America has had the best and probabaly most consistant defence in the MFL for the past 2-3 seasons. This will be Castro's 4th season as a big leaguer and Salinas' 3rd season as a big leaguer.

America allowed 14 goals last season.. the fewest goals in the league.. I am not surprised Davino, Salinas, and Castro are on the team.


Decent list of Midfielders especially considering the fact that Lavolpe called up his boys from Atlas. It will be interesting to see if Pardo and Juan P can get back to their old form.

I hope so

Arce and Olalde dont convince me.. I would have prefered to see De Nigris and Bautista or even Mendoza !!!

Its not that Olalde doesnt impress me, its that his days are numbered. I ould like to see Arce. I dont think we should judge him because he plays for a subpar team.. lets see what he has... if not.. i will be the first one to boot him

[Monkeyboy2000]

I thought the list wasn't supposed to be out until Thursday.

I must say, I'm quite happy with this group. I would maybe sub Palencia for Arce but I'm all for giving others a chance to shine.

Good choices on goal and in the midfield. It's also good to see more speed on defence. Damn, I may go to LA to watch these guys play Argentina.

[Various Styles]

Not defending them because they are Americanistas, but they have done more than de Nigris or even Bofo when they got called up to the national team.

De Nigris had established himself as one of the most promising players in the MFL by beign in the top 5 goal scorers list which besides Borgetti was made up of mostly foreigners.. No other young Mexie came close. Too bad De Nigris got a Prima Donna attitude.

America has had the best and probabaly most consistant defence in the MFL for the past 2-3 seasons. This will be Castro's 4th season as a big leaguer and Salinas' 3rd season as a big leaguer.

To me this has more to do with how Club America plays as a Whole as opposed to having really good defenders. Lapuente has allways fielded extremely defensive sides.

I still think Margarito Gonzales and Melvin Brown are more talented and better prepared to be in the National team than Salinas or Castro.

[efernandez9]

pense que parejita seria llamado, a ganar experiencia con el grp. (ups.... ya vi lo del acuerdo por copa libertadolares)

5 aguilas?
2 de morelia y 3 chivas
2 de santos y 2 necaxistas
2 de monterrey (buen balance, pero sacarle 5 de un golpe al pelon lapuente?)

[el mofles]

Funking Anti-Pumistas :). I call Unam discrimination on this. Anyone else want to back me up?

[EvilRick]

Originally posted by rdl674

Moisés Muñoz Morelia Portero

Este Chico me da... muy buena impresion.

Alberto Salinas América Defensa
Joel Sánchez Guadalajara Defensa

Don't like them. I don't see anything special about Salinas and Joel is pased his prime.

Héctor Altamirano Santos Defensa

About time!

José Antonio Castro América Defensa

Just the usual quota stablished by Telerisa

Pável Pardo América Mediocampista
The Atlas conection.

Juan P. Rodríguez Atlas Mediocampista
WTF? This guy has been crap in Atlas.

Jesús Olalde Tigres Delantero
Won't be there for long.

[goburn]

Originally posted by el mofles
Funking Anti-Pumistas :). I call Unam discrimination on this. Anyone else want to back me up?

Yes, I'm surprised he didn't call at least one from UNAM. Los problemas personales son algo aparte. Que no se le olvide a Lavolpe.

[Levante]

Originally posted by rdl674
http://www.elnorte.com/deportes/articulo/276220/


Oswaldo Sánchez Guadalajara Portero
Moisés Muñoz Morelia Portero

This was expected

Salvador Carmona Toluca Defensa
Duilio Davino América Defensa

Good veteran defenders that deserved to be called. Duilio has played well the last season. I do have some concerns with his speed, but he seems to position himself well.


Alberto Salinas América Defensa

I agree with VS here. Castro is a lock in the defense, but I would have liked to have seen Melvin Brown or Margarito Gonzalez. Gonzalez is bad ass.

Joel Sánchez Guadalajara Defensa
Older and experienced, but he should of gone to the last World Cup (instead of De Anda) and it should have been his last caps

Héctor Altamirano Santos Defensa
To Quote Evil Rick "About Time"

José Antonio Castro América Defensa
A Badass

Pável Pardo América Mediocampista
I hope he gets back to his old form.....I'm a betting man and I'm betting that he will.

Carlos Morales Morelia Mediocampista
Israel López Toluca Mediocampista
Nice to see new blood on the team.

Ramón Morales Guadalajara Mediocampista
Jesús Arellano Monterrey Mediocampista
These two are no brainers....

Diego Martínez Necaxa Mediocampista
We'll see what he has to offer. Will probably sit on the bench

Luis Pérez Monterrey Mediocampista
This is the Kid that I wanted to see in el tricolor.

Juan P. Rodríguez Atlas Mediocampista
Let's hope that he gets back on track, If Lavolpe doesn't get him back on track, no one will.

Eduardo Rergis Atlante Mediocampista
Will probably sit on the bench, but who knows. Saw him play this past weekend and he did ok..

Cuauhtémoc Blanco América Delantero
Ya llego Papa.....

Fernando Arce Veracruz Delantero
I'd like to see what he has to offer.

Jared Borgetti Santos Delantero
Glad to see that he's on board. We need a striker.

Jesús Olalde Tigres Delantero
???????? Why not a young guy here like Iniguez? He or Juan Carlos Cacho will take this spot in the future.

Braulio Luna Necaxa Delantero
He and Cuauhtemoc will be feeding the ball to Borgetti...

[Levante]

Sanchez
Duilio
Altamirano Carmona

Pardo/Arellano R. Morales

L. Perez
J.P. Rodriguez

B. Luna
C. Blanco

Borgetti :D

[LMvCP]

Originally posted by Various Styles
I still think Margarito Gonzales and Melvin Brown are more talented and better prepared to be in the National team than Salinas or Castro.

you say Castro and Salinas havent done enough to get a call?

Why? Because Gonzales has scored 3 times from a fixed position? Or because Brown was a rookie when they played the Copa Libertadores.


sorry man, but you shot yourslef on the foot on that one...because Salinas and Castro have done more than your 2 before getting the first call up (brown, not gonzales since he has not been on the team)

Salinas was also in his first season when he played the Copa Libertadores.

Aside from the international tournies they played, look at what they have done in the league? 14 goals in 19 games last season? Can you blame Lavolpe for wanting to use Davino, Castro, and Salinas?

[LMvCP]

Originally posted by el mofles
Funking Anti-Pumistas :). I call Unam discrimination on this. Anyone else want to back me up?

Well, lavolpe did say no players from pumas or Cruz azul because they will participate in the Copa Libertaodres...for the time being

[LMvCP]

Originally posted by Various Styles

De Nigris had established himself as one of the most promising players in the MFL by beign in the top 5 goal scorers list which besides Borgetti was made up of mostly foreigners.. No other young Mexie came close. Too bad De Nigris got a Prima Donna attitude.

And America allowing the fewest goals in the Copa libertadores and regular season is not merit enough? According to you, de nigris was in the top 5 in scoring. De nigris is a forward and his job is to score.. well allowing less goal..isnt that what a defender does?

To me this has more to do with how Club America plays as a Whole as opposed to having really good defenders. Lapuente has allways fielded extremely defensive sides.

a 20 goal difference?...they didnt play defensively, they were just well balanced.

I still think Margarito Gonzales and Melvin Brown are more talented and better prepared to be in the National team than Salinas or Castro.

And what has Gonzales done? I guess Salinas and Castro passed out towels. sorry, but salinas and castro have done more in the league and internationally. Gonzales is a good young defender and I would have liked to see him over Sanchez.

[LMvCP]

Originally posted by efernandez9
5 aguilas?
(buen balance, pero sacarle 5 de un golpe al pelon lapuente?)

acuerdate de mi.... pero le van a quitar a de Nigris y a Rojas quien jugo un partido con la seleccion chilena hace una semana. Osea en total len van a quitar 7 jugadores. Y si va quierer utilizar Rios quien es el mejor portero en dia de Mexico... podra ser 8. Rios tiene 35 años, pero no se nota su edad. Tiene una fisica de primera. No digo que lo van a tomar en cuanta para 2006, pero para una copa america o copa oro...podra ser convocado.

Pero esta bien. es por eso que Lapuente llamo 3 jovenes al equipo mayor (un portero de 17 años, un volante de 18 años, y un delantero de 19 años) Tambien ha jugado otros jovenes la temporada pasada.

[Various Styles]

Originally posted by rdl674
you say Castro and Salinas havent done enough to get a call?

Why? Because Gonzales has scored 3 times from a fixed position? Or because Brown was a rookie when they played the Copa Libertadores.

I firmly believe that the best players in each position should go to the National Team. At the Moment i dont rate either Salinas or Castro as the best. Salinas doesnt convince me and Castro has the potential to be a real good player but to me they are not there yet. Margarito Gonzales has been a revalation since last season. Not only does he have a powerfull shot but he has great ball controll as well. The fact that he can score goals is also a plus. If you think he can only score from fixed positions then you didnt see last seasons game where he destroyed Atlas.


sorry man, but you shot yourslef on the foot on that one...because Salinas and Castro have done more than your 2 before getting the first call up (brown, not gonzales since he has not been on the team)

I believe Melvin Brown had an overall better Copa Libertadores than both Castro and Salinas. He went from a rookie to beign an important player in the team. Margarito Gonzales is becoming one of Mexicos best defenders since Rafa Marquez.

[LMvCP]

Originally posted by Various Styles
I firmly believe that the best players in each position should go to the National Team.

Yeah, but we cant call up on Torrado or Marquez. Also, Lavolpe wont call upon any one from Pumas and Cruz Azul.

At the Moment i dont rate either Salinas or Castro as the best.

Its amazing what a jersey will do.

Whats the difference between Castro or Salinas playing well in the Copa Libertaodres and Melvin Brown playing well in the Copa Libertadores? Castro and Salinas are younger then Brown. But Ill be honest, Brown has not done shyt lately. He is too prissy and has been since last season. I think he got a little too comfortable

Salinas doesnt convince me and Castro has the potential to be a real good player but to me they are not there yet.

If their performance in league and copa libertaodres isnt enough, then I dont know what will

Margarito Gonzales has been a revalation since last season. Not only does he have a powerfull shot but he has great ball controll as well. The fact that he can score goals is also a plus.

Castro also has scored goals. In fact he scored a goal against Morelia in the Copa libertaodres when they played with 10 men down for 85 minutes. A game they won 2-0. They let thier nuts drop into thier sack and bucked up.

If you think he can only score from fixed positions then you didnt see last seasons game where he destroyed Atlas.

And I guess you didnt see America... thats right... you dont watch America and you have said it yourself many times also... its amazing what a jersey will do

I believe Melvin Brown had an overall better Copa Libertadores than both Castro and Salinas. He went from a rookie to beign an important player in the team.

America allowed the fewest goals and Salinas and Castro had much to do with that. And those 2 are key players for America.

Margarito Gonzales is becoming one of Mexicos best defenders since Rafa Marquez.

whoaaa dont get premature on me..

[LMvCP]

http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=24703&perpage=15&pagenumber=1

I think its funny that no one ever mentioned Margarito's name when they had thier chance. He scores a nice little goal, then gets some decent reviews from the TV Azteca puppets and now he is more deserving than some other players....


HMMMMMMMMMMM mmm mm

I think he is a good defender and will have his day in the sun soon...but to say he has done more is not right and is not true from a statistical standpoint

[Don Boppero 3000]

Various Said

Salinas doesnt convince me and Castro has the potential to be a real good player but to me they are not there yet.

RDL responded with

If their performance in league and copa libertaodres isnt enough, then I dont know what will.




What if you give them a shot during a meaningless friendly and firgure out if they can hang. I agree with RDL on the Various hating the jersey thing.

[Various Styles]

Originally posted by rdl674

I think its funny that no one ever mentioned Margarito's name when they had thier chance. He scores a nice little goal, then gets some decent reviews from the TV Azteca puppets and now he is more deserving than some other players..

Margarito plays in a Queretaro which not only is a recently promoted Club but very few of us follow. Not only that but Gallos Blancos coverage on TV and the Press is very little. I first caught the attention of Gonzalez after his game with Atlas, after that i didnt get to see him untill he scored that bad ass goal last week..

http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=22663

I think he is a good defender and will have his day in the sun soon...but to say he has done more is not right and is not true from a statistical standpoint

He may not have done more but i am willing to bet that he is an Overall better player.