Team Payrolls

[Chadwell]

Its probably been asked a hundred times, but I'll make it a hundred and one...

Are EPL team payrolls made public knowledge? And if so, is the information online anywhere?

Thanks.

[Devilish Red]

Its probably been asked a hundred times, but I'll make it a hundred and one...

Are EPL team payrolls made public knowledge? And if so, is the information online anywhere?

Thanks.

No.

Fooball is very secretive. Most of the numbers you see for salaries, transfers are guesswork. There is however, a fooball finance review.

Top 20 Clubs (2003/4) - Turnover

1 (1) Man Utd £171.5m
2 (4) Real Madrid £156.3m
3 (3) AC Milan £147.2m
4 (10) Chelsea £143.7m
5 (2) Juventus £142.4m
6 (7) Arsenal £115m
7 (13) Barcelona £110.1m
8 (6) Inter Milan £110.3m
9 (5) Bayern Munich £110.1m
10 (8) Liverpool £92.3m
11 (10) Newcastle £90.5m
12 (11) Roma £72m
13 (18) Celtic £69m
14 (16) Tottenham £66.3m
15 (15) Lazio £65.8m
16 (-) Man City £61.9m
17 (14) Schalke £60.5m
18 (-) Marseille £58.3m
19 (-) Rangers £57.1m
20 (-) Aston Villa £55.9m

[leg_breaker]

How on earth are Newcastle, Spurs, City and Villa so high?

[Toon³]

How on earth are Newcastle, Spurs, City and Villa so high?

Because we have 49,000 season tickets at an average of £560. That is a lot of money, plus TV money, shirt sales and other crap.

Even though we haven't been in europe this season our turn over rose to £92million, but we lost £13 million after taxes and expenses. :rolleyes:

[pookspur]

How on earth are Newcastle, Spurs, City and Villa so high?

loads of support - loyal and stupid enough to dig into their (our) pockets whether they're offered quality or crap.

[Toon³]

loads of support - loyal and stupid enough to dig into their (our) pockets whether they're offered quality or crap.

Mainly crap.

[pookspur]

Mainly crap.

... and thus the inspiration for leg_breaker's query.

[musicl]

How on earth are Newcastle, Spurs, City and Villa so high?Something tells me you only started watching football about 5 years ago.....

They are big clubs unlike Bolton.

[King-James]

I don't get why, with the EPL being so rich, they don't (yet) show relative dominance in Europe.

I have to wonder if the jackasses that run the clubs ever have meetings about this sort of thing. "We have the big turnover, and these poorer clubs in Europe keep beating us. How do we fix this?"

[musicl]

It all goes back to when English clubs were banned from Europe for 5 years. In that time European football moved on and its only now that they are catching up.

[leg_breaker]

What I meant is, how can they be so rich yet so low down in the table? Especially Newcastle, £90 million a year turnover and they're more likely to be relegated than qualify for Europe.

Compare that to say PSV or Porto who aren't even in the table.

[leg_breaker]

I don't get why, with the EPL being so rich, they don't (yet) show relative dominance in Europe.

I have to wonder if the jackasses that run the clubs ever have meetings about this sort of thing. "We have the big turnover, and these poorer clubs in Europe keep beating us. How do we fix this?"

English teams used to dominate Europe from 75 to 85, with three teams winning it, and 7 wins in 8 seasons, 8 finalists in 10 years. Then we got banned, and have never recovered.

Also it's generally not poorer teams who beat English teams, it's often teams like Milan, Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, hardly broke.

[musicl]

What I meant is, how can they be so rich yet so low down in the table? Especially Newcastle, £90 million a year turnover and they're more likely to be relegated than qualify for Europe.

Compare that to say PSV or Porto who aren't even in the table.Its all about what teams have done the past - it builds up your support. Just because a team hasnt been to well lately doesnt mean that the support they had built up over the period before doesnt just stop supporting. Like for Spurs who were one of the top team from the 50s to the 80s built up big support and then because they had a crap 90s doesnt mean the support just stops.

If Man Utd got relegated they probally would still be top of the list.

[King-James]

English teams used to dominate Europe from 75 to 85, with three teams winning it, and 7 wins in 8 seasons, 8 finalists in 10 years. Then we got banned, and have never recovered.

But financially they certainly have recovered. It just doesn't seem that those excess millions of pounds haven't translated in up to date management and tactics.

Also it's generally not poorer teams who beat English teams, it's often teams like Milan, Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, hardly broke.

Yeah, lately. Though in some cases it doesn't seem right. ManU finished last in their group behind three clubs that probably have far lower turnovers. I wonder what Villareal's turnovers are compared to Everton. They're starting to show for their wealth, but it has taken a while.

[Toon³]

Yeah, lately. Though in some cases it doesn't seem right. ManU finished last in their group behind three clubs that probably have far lower turnovers. I wonder what Villareal's turnovers are compared to Everton. They're starting to show for their wealth, but it has taken a while.

Villareal are owned by millionare floortile baron.

[RichardL]

I don't get why, with the EPL being so rich, they don't (yet) show relative dominance in Europe.

I have to wonder if the jackasses that run the clubs ever have meetings about this sort of thing. "We have the big turnover, and these poorer clubs in Europe keep beating us. How do we fix this?"
On the whole, players here are overpaid for their level of ability. Newcastle have got overpaying players down to an art-form. That tends to eat up any wealth "advantage".

[leg_breaker]

Anyway, the English league is ranked second behind Spain in terms of European performance, and if it wasn't for the incredibly wealthy Real Madrid they'd probably be top.

[King-James]

Villareal are owned by millionare floortile baron.

How many first division Spanish clubs aren't owned by millionares?
I mean, does he have hundreds of millions, or just a few million? And does he 'donate' extra cash for players?

On the whole, players here are overpaid for their level of ability. Newcastle have got overpaying players down to an art-form. That tends to eat up any wealth "advantage".

I wonder why it's in England though.
All kidding aside, I don't consider the English to be dumber people. Unless maybe there is some sort of football cultural thing... where the people in charge are older and got there during the times that football was further from the mass popularity it has now.

[Toon³]

How many first division Spanish clubs aren't owned by millionares?
I mean, does he have hundreds of millions, or just a few million? And does he 'donate' extra cash for players?



Well Villareal itself is about . <that big so yeah he's got a few bob.

[superdave]

On the whole, players here are overpaid for their level of ability. Newcastle have got overpaying players down to an art-form. That tends to eat up any wealth "advantage".
That's it right there.