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El CHarro_NEgro....
14 Jan 2003, 03:29 PM
http://www.iffhs.de/main/ranking/weltclubtrainerakt/?sprache=englisch

1. Vicente del Bosque, Real Madrid CF
2. Arsène Wenger Arsenal, FC London
3. Sir Alexander Ferguson, Manchester United FC
4. Klaus Toppmöller, TSV Bayer Leverkusen
5. Nery Pumpido, FC Olimpia Asunción
6. Rafael Benítez, Valencia CF
7. Marcello Lippi, FC Juventus Torino
8. Christian Gross, FC Basel
9. Héctor Raúl Cúper, FC Internazionale Milano
10. Jair Picemi, AD São Caetano
11. Matthias Sammer, BV Borussia Dortmund
12. Gerard Houllier, Liverpool FC
13. Ottmar Hitzfeld, FC Bayern München
14. Bert van Marwijk, Feyenoord Rotterdam
15. Javier Irueta, Real Club Deportivo de La Coruña
16. Carlos Ancelotti, Milan AC
17. Fabio Capello, AS Roma
18. Luigi Del Negri, AC Chievo Verona
19. Rubén Dario Insúa, CA San Lorenzo de Almagro Buenos Aires
20. Víctor Fernández, Real Club Celta de Vigo
Manuel Lapuente, CA América Ciudad de México
Louis van Gaalm, FC Barcelona

Bauser
14 Jan 2003, 05:16 PM
You have to laugh at these rankings. Del Bosque's role at Real Madrid was the best performance by a coach last year? A third place in La Liga including 10 defeats. Sure, a CL title and the plastic cup in Tokyo makes him a candidate, but still...

If my Spanish was more fluent, even I and many other BigSoccer members could do fairly well with Figo, Ronaldo, Zidane, Raul and Roberto Carlos at our disposal.

The prize should go to a coach who has made impact because of HIS and not his PLAYERS qualities.

Toppmöller would be my choice.

Lawmill
14 Jan 2003, 10:10 PM
I'd pick Toppmoeller too, although someone at BL really dropped the ball when it came to buy-out clauses for Ballack and Ze Ruberto.

Elninho
15 Jan 2003, 02:39 AM
My choice would be Pumpido, with Toppmöller a close second.

Vicente del Bosque winning the award is a joke. If I had Casillas, Hierro, Roberto Carlos, Zidane, Figo, Ronaldo, and Raul, I don't think I would have done that much worse.

Even more of a joke is Alex Ferguson ranked 3rd. Third place in England, knocked out of the FA Cup in January, out of the Worthington Cup at the first hurdle, thoroughly unimpressive and lucky to reach the Champions League semifinal... and again most BigSoccer posters probably wouldn't do too badly with Ferdinand, Beckham, Giggs, Keane, Veron, and van Nistelrooy.

AFCA
15 Jan 2003, 05:45 AM
Bert van Marwijk.... hahaha

soccernutter
15 Jan 2003, 05:57 AM
LOL!!!

Gross is 8th. Just ask us Spurs fans how good he is (he's crap!)

No Trap? Away from his time for the Italian national team, he has been one of the greatest club managers. SGErikson all should be up there, minus his stay with England.

Elninho
15 Jan 2003, 06:08 AM
Oh, and I can't believe Louis van Gaal of BarçAjax got any votes at all...

mr magoo
15 Jan 2003, 06:20 AM
It's got to be wor Sir Bobby Robson. He's done a smashin job with the toon.

The Double
15 Jan 2003, 05:20 PM
Originally posted by mr magoo
It's got to be wor Sir Bobby Robson. He's done a smashin job with the toon.


I rank Sir Bobby as one of the best coaches in history.

Excape Goat
22 Jan 2003, 10:18 AM
My take:

Vicente del Bosque: You should give him credit for managing a team with so many big players and keeping egos in check. He is liked Phil Jackson in basketball.

But Toppmöller deserves the award more than he does.