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Sempre
03 Jan 2006, 01:02 AM
Tuesday, we are told, Antonio Cassano will be officially
unveiled as a new Real Madrid signing.

Reports in the GDS and Marca are suggesting as much,
anyway.

If this is true he will join a new wave of young Madrid
purchases: Sergio Ramos, Cicinho, and Robinho having
come before him.

Here on BS the signing would no doubt be greeted with
over-reactions both positive and negative, misinformation,
hype, and hysteria.

This I can say because I have read comments of posters
on the Madrid boards and the Roma boards as well. He is
surely a player that excites strong reactions, yet what is
badly needed for partisan fans and neutral observers alike
is a thread offering some fair-minded perspective on the
player, who may soon enter the limelight at Madrid and for
the Azzurri at the World Cup.

That would be useful in the coming weeks, when Cassano
could well be the subject of close scrutiny.

Here then are some facts and figures for the curious to
refer to:

1. Cassano is 23 years old and has compiled these goal-scoring
statistics:

http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=281511

The Gazzetta dello Sport analyzed his numbers and concluded
the following: By the age of 22, Cassano had scored more goals in
Serie A (43), than any other Italian fantasista (that's a creative
forward, operating as play-maker or support striker) before him at
the same age.

That list of forwards includes Del Piero, Totti, Rivera, S. Mazzola,
Baggio, Vialli, Zola, Ravanelli, and Antognoni. (In all cases these
comparisons are meaningful except for Baggio's, who suffered a
horrific knee injury at 18 and had not played nearly as many games
as Cassano had by 22.)

2. These numbers need to be looked at carefully.

His haul of 60 goals from 181 appearances indicates his scoring
ratio is below that of the top strikers, who usually can average
a goal per two games.

Yet Cassano is not a pure goal-scorer. He is an inventive dribbler
and passer who likes to notch assists as much as he likes to score
goals. I have not found a full record of Cassano's assists, but last
season he notched 9 for Roma and the season before that 13 for
the same club. (In seasons where he scored 9 and 14, respectively.)

It is also notable that in a large number of cases Cassano had
not played 90 minutes in an appearance and was either subbed
or used as a sub when scoring a goal or making an assist. This
was the case both at Bari and in his seasons at Roma.

3. Cassano has scored against the best opposition he's faced:
Juventus, Milan, Inter, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Poland, Sweden,
Bulgaria. He's beat Buffon, Blanc, Seamen, Toldo, Isaakson, Dida,
Cannavaro, Casillas, Panucci, Cordoba, Dudek . . . . And many
others.

A close look at his scoring record shows that in the more
prestigious tournaments, Cassano has raised his game:

a) 5 goals in 11 appearances in the Champions League, 4 goals
in 3 appearances in the UEFA Cup, 3 goals in 6 appearances for
Italy.

b) yet in the minor Coppa Italia, just one goal in 8 appearances;

At Euro 2004, Cassano played the equivalent of 2 full games
and notched 2 goals and 1 assist, where Italy's total offense
for entire tournament (3 games) was 3 goals and 3 assists.

4. All of these numbers are useful in combatting the following
notions: Cassano is 'unproven'; 'inexperienced'; 'untested at
international level'; 'inconsistent'. And the like.

5. Now posters who will try to defend Cassano's behavior by
saying he's merely been a bit thick or inclined to the occasional
tantrum are wrong.

Cassano is a veritable headcase: he has fought with, and fallen
out, with every coach he's played for except Giovanni Trappatoni
and his mentor at Bari. Here's a list of his antagonists: Rudi Voeller;
Claudio Gentile; Luciano Spalletti; Gigi Del Neri; Bruno Conti.

If Cassano loves and respects Fabio Capello, it doesn't mean he
didn't cause Capello woe at Roma. On more than one occasion
Cassano wouldn't answer his phone, did not show up at training,
threw a fit when subbed, and fought with fellow teammates.

6. Cassano is undisciplined as a player, hates tactics, demands
total freedom to improvise, will not defend, is moody, emotional,
and absolutely unpredictable. When given freedom to operate as
he likes, though, he terrorizes defenses and produces goals and
assists. On the other hand he has never shown the ability to
conform to team play as coaches so often demand.

This then is Antonio Cassano's profile by the numbers and by
past behavior.

What it indicates for me is that Cassano is well-qualified to play
as a forward for Madrid, has all the talent to succeed, has already
proven that his talent is of international class, and may, in due
time, become the best Italian player and one of the very best
creative forwards in world soccer.

So that, if he fails at Madrid, it would very likely be for reasons
other than lack of experience or proven skill.

Here is a link to a biography of Cassano:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Cassano

Here is a link to a compilation showing some of Cassano's
goals and at times outrageous skills:

http://www.soccerpulse.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=60071&hl=antonio+cassano

Serb
03 Jan 2006, 11:25 AM
Great thread.

Antonio Cassano is a good player, but I don't get why they are getting so many similar players. They should get a good central midfielder, and some good defenders.

Teso Dos Bichos
03 Jan 2006, 11:40 AM
It will be interesting to see how he slots in. I certainly hope he gets a game.

Sempre
03 Jan 2006, 11:49 AM
This report says the deal is all but done:

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jan3i.html

LordR
03 Jan 2006, 11:54 AM
Are Real planning to introduce a new 2-3-5 system or what do they need Cassano for? :confused:

Bertje
03 Jan 2006, 11:56 AM
I'd say getting rid of players is Real's first priority now.

Dark Savante
03 Jan 2006, 01:13 PM
I have to admit to not seeing the sense in this move. Cassano's direct rival for a starting spot will be none other than the prince of Madrid..who plays no matter whether he is on form or not.. Cassano as Sempre's point 6 intimated, is not one who will tolerate sitting on the bench or being subbed out..but, sitting is surely what he can expect when up against Madrid's demi-god.

Are Madrid about to change their system or personnel? I mean, Robinho, Zidane, Raul and Cassano? All vying for the 2 creative spots in the team? Something has got to give, surely. One would figure Zidane is on his way out and Raul is injured for the time being so that leaves Cassano and Robinho. Will they play together, one in midfield the other at SS, or are we going to see some kind of hybrid system to fit them all in to work with and around Ronaldo?

On a personal note, I wonder if Cassano can cope with the intense spotlight playing for RM is going to bring with it. One outburst and he'll have he world press on his back.. how would he react to that?

nicephoras
03 Jan 2006, 01:34 PM
Zidane is gone at the end of the season, so he's a moot point.
The only way Real can reload rather than tearing it all down and rebuilding is if they get Ballack on a free.

Bertje
03 Jan 2006, 01:59 PM
And lose Perez in the proces. ;)

Sempre
03 Jan 2006, 02:06 PM
Are Madrid about to change their system
or personnel? I mean, Robinho, Zidane, Raul and Cassano?
All vying for the 2 creative spots in the team? Something has got
to give, surely. One would figure Zidane is on his way out and Raul
is injured for the time being so that leaves Cassano and Robinho.
Will they play together, one in midfield the other at SS, or are we
going to see some kind of hybrid system to fit them all in to work
with and around Ronaldo?

On a personal note, I wonder if Cassano can cope with the intense
spotlight playing for RM is going to bring with it. One outburst and
he'll have he world press on his back.. how would he react to that?

1. Bronzetti spoke of Cassano's proven "goal-scoring" ability.
So I take it he'd play in place of Raul and Ronaldo when either
are unfit (both are injury-prone, increasingly). And if Ronaldo
and Raul are fit perhaps he'll slot Cassano in a play-making
role (in place of Zidane). Cassano did that, and impressively,
when Totti was suspended last season. The only problem was
that he held the ball too long. But he can pass, and his vision
is good. He needs to add a little finesse to that part of his game.

2. I don't believe that the atmosphere (press/ fans) in
Madrid is any worse than in Rome. Actually, I happen to
think the atmosphere is better. Based upon what players
say about working in the two cities . . . By all accounts
Roma is hell for anyone not named Francesco Totti.

3. The real problem is dealing with authorities. Coaches,
directors, presidents. Cassano has never been able to
do this gracefully.

Dark Savante
03 Jan 2006, 02:26 PM
1. Bronzetti spoke of Cassano's proven "goal-scoring" ability.
So I take it he'd play in place of Raul and Ronaldo when either
are unfit (both are injury-prone, increasingly). And if Ronaldo
and Raul are fit perhaps he'll slot Cassano in a play-making
role (in place of Zidane). Cassano did that, and impressively,
when Totti was suspended last season. The only problem was
that he held the ball too long. But he can pass, and his vision
is good. He needs to add a little finesse to that part of his game.

2. I don't believe that the atmosphere (press/ fans) in
Madrid is any worse than in Rome. Actually, I happen to
think the atmosphere is better. Based upon what players
say about working in the two cities . . . By all accounts
Roma is hell for anyone not named Francesco Totti.

3. The real problem is dealing with authorities. Coaches,
directors, presidents. Cassano has never been able to
do this gracefully.
1. That would be all good, but what about Robinho?

2. In a new country where he doesn' speak the language and everyone has eyes on I'm inclined to disagree. Cassano hasn';t shown he can handle that kind of envrionment in Italy let alone a new country.

3. Yep

Sempre
03 Jan 2006, 05:00 PM
That would be all good, but what about Robinho?

I don't know how Madrid will organize all of its players. I can
imagine Cassano playing off of Ronaldo, Robinho as a winger,
and Zidane in midfield (supposing Raul is injured). But I'm sure
there will be lots of shuffling. Zidane, Raul, and Ronaldo are
all fairly injury-prone, and as nice said Zidane is probably on
his way out soon ....

Dominican Lou
03 Jan 2006, 08:00 PM
Are Toni and Gilardino that much better than him?

Why don't you hear about him on Italy's NT more?

Teso Dos Bichos
03 Jan 2006, 08:02 PM
He refused to sign a new contract at Roma, so they effectively suspended him. Italy refused to select him unless he was playing regularly.

Cassano
03 Jan 2006, 08:21 PM
Are Toni and Gilardino that much better than him?

Why don't you hear about him on Italy's NT more?

Teso hit the nail on the head, I'm just adding that Cassano, for all his talent, has made few appearances with the National Team. Part of this was due to the fact that before Euro 2004, he was still eligible for the U-21's, and Trappatoni was waiting to see if the Italy U-21 coach Gentile would call him up. He didn't and Trappatoni gave him a debut against Poland (March or April, I can't seem to remember at the moment). Then, he played at Euro 2004 and after that played 2 qualifiers and that was about it. Injuries and his Roma situation hindered his appearance count.

pc4th
03 Jan 2006, 09:45 PM
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=354085&cc=5901

Cassano, who is expected to be paid a net salary of in excess of £2.6million-a-year, is only the second Italian to sign for Real.

Spanish media reported that Real had paid around £4million for Cassano who had been embroiled in a dispute with the Italian club over his contract which was due to expire at the end of the season.

The Italian, who has a reputation as a difficult character, cost Roma £15million when he signed from Bari in 2001.

Part of the Italy side at Euro 2004, he has been capped eight times and scored three goals.

Azzurri coach Marcello Lippi has frequently expressed his admiration for the striker's abilities but says he wants him to be playing regular football before he can be taken to the World Cup.

So he will be making about the same money as Rooney. $4.6-$4.7 million a year.

If Real Madrid sells him a year from now for $11 million, they would have Cassano for FREE (not even paying for salary).

Henry Porter
03 Jan 2006, 10:57 PM
With an attidude like this, I can't imagine why he has issues with coaches.

http://goliat.dbase.hu/DATA/kepek/hirek%20kepei/humor/Cassano.jpg

Sempre
04 Jan 2006, 12:16 AM
Are Toni and Gilardino that much better than him?

Why don't you hear about him on Italy's NT more?

No; Cassano is better than Toni and Gilardino. Those
two are center-forwards who bang in goals. Cassano's
a special talent though.

squadra_azzurri
04 Jan 2006, 12:23 AM
No; Cassano is better than Toni and Gilardino. Those
two are center-forwards who bang in goals. Cassano's
a special talent though.


like i mentioned before in other posts Cassano has something to prove to MArcello Lippi the Italy NT coach soo excpect him to go crazy out there. Not only does he hav to prove he is good enough to make the team but also show Lippi he can be a possible starter.. Cassano is the best and i just cant get enough of that picture ahahahaha.

benito camelpene
04 Jan 2006, 12:32 AM
I love the way Cassano plays. I had the chance of watching him and totti put on a masterful display last year at the stadio olimpico. He's a special talent that adds a unique dimension to the Italian national team and hopefully now with Real Madrid. I wish him all the best.