View Full Version : Just a question from a Yank.
GonjaJuice
14 Jan 2003, 10:43 AM
Until fairly recently I have not followed the England Nat team so I just had a few questions. Why haven't I seen Fowler on any of the Nat. teams during the World Cup and after? Is he always injured or something? Also, seeing as that England sometimes has problems scoring goals why isn't MacManaman at least on the bench?
Prenn
14 Jan 2003, 10:55 AM
Originally posted by GonjaJuice
Until fairly recently I have not followed the England Nat team so I just had a few questions. Why haven't I seen Fowler on any of the Nat. teams during the World Cup and after? Is he always injured or something? Also, seeing as that England sometimes has problems scoring goals why isn't MacManaman at least on the bench?
Fowlers been injured and out of form. He's been in and out of the England team for years. Sven prefers Heskey and Owen up front. I would personally like to see Fowler play up front with Owen.
If you ever get chance to see footage of England matches where McManaman has played you'll see why he's not in the team. Goal scoring is not normally a problem and when it is it's due to the tactics rather than the players.
GonjaJuice
14 Jan 2003, 11:30 AM
MacManaman doesn't seem to have the same problems with Real Madrid as with the Nat. team...it just seems that with the problem of not having a consistent person to play on the left he should be given another shot as a substitute. Other than the Belgium game England really had a problem scoring in the World Cup and was not especially impressive in the friendly against Portugal, although I would agree with you somewhat with the tactics. Sven definitely needs to get someone else with Owens because Heskey is just not cutting it (not even in the Premiership).
Prenn
14 Jan 2003, 05:15 PM
Belgium? I think you mean Denmark. Remember that we scored in every game but one, and kept clean sheets in three. Goal scoring wasn't the problem until the 2nd half against Brazil.
The Portugal friendly was just another chance to experiment.
We had the chances to beat Macedonia, I'm still amazed how they only conceeded two but that's just the way it goes.
I'll say again, goal scoring is not our problem and even if it was Mcmanaman would be a long way down the list of things to solve it. England's problem is most definately tactical. I don't know why Sven insists on bypassing the midfield with longballs to a striker who isn't very big. We need to play it through the middle, we have the players to do it.
I'd love to see England with a Spanish coach.
Matt Clark
15 Jan 2003, 08:44 AM
Like who? I can't think of a Spanish coach good enough for the position of England manager. And if there are any - why aren't they managing Spain?
Prenn
15 Jan 2003, 03:06 PM
Originally posted by Matt Clark
Like who? I can't think of a Spanish coach good enough for the position of England manager. And if there are any - why aren't they managing Spain?
Manuel, from Fawlty Towers.
skipshady
15 Jan 2003, 03:19 PM
Originally posted by Matt Clark
Like who? I can't think of a Spanish coach good enough for the position of England manager. And if there are any - why aren't they managing Spain? The only name at the club level that comes to mind is Hector Cuper. Although he hasn't won any hardware in Serie A, his Inter side is tied atop the table with Milan and they're making good progress through Champion's League. And it's hard to argue with his success at Valencia.
Also Camacho did a decent job in the past World Cup, or at least he was adequate enough to avoid the usual early exit. And if they weren't so unlucky vs Korea, I believe Spain would have beaten Germany and challenged Brazil in the Final.
I don't know if either would be better than Eriksson, but there are capable Spanish coaches.
sidspaceman
15 Jan 2003, 03:58 PM
Hector Cuper is a Argentine.
skipshady
15 Jan 2003, 04:01 PM
Originally posted by sidspaceman
Hector Cuper is a Argentine. Oops.
There were websites that referred to him as a Spaniard. Liars.
But wouldn't that be something, England coached by an Argentine?
goyoureddevils
15 Jan 2003, 04:21 PM
I have to say the idea of a spanish coah is laughable to me......... what have spanish coach's done for Spain's National team lately. Don't tell me that it's a lack of talent either. They are stacked!
No, you would have to attribute it to the type of system they've been playing, and that's all the coach's fault.
How about a Frenchie coach for the english? It has worked great for Arsenal...... oh wait that's not really an english team is it?
El_Maestro
15 Jan 2003, 04:33 PM
You also have Real Madrid's Del Bosque, although that team pretty much manages itself.
sidspaceman
15 Jan 2003, 09:18 PM
Originally posted by skipshady
But wouldn't that be something, England coached by an Argentine?
That is exactley what I was thinking when I read your recomondation of Culper.
sinner78
16 Jan 2003, 05:21 AM
Originally posted by sidspaceman
That is exactley what I was thinking when I read your recomondation of Culper.
Cuper would play a similar defensive system to the one that sven plays .They both seem to have the same kind of dull personality as well .
the next coach should be someone like steve mcclaren or maybe steve bruce!!!.
Matt Clark
16 Jan 2003, 05:24 AM
Bruce? LOL! Yeah - appointed England manager on Tuesday, ups sticks to manage Wales on Friday, Scotland by a week on Wednesday and a fortnight after he walked through the doors at Lancaster Gate he's left his "dream job" managing Northern Ireland and is touting about for work in the Caribbean.
sinner78
16 Jan 2003, 05:29 AM
It was just a suggestion that I wanted to share among fellow england fans..
Non england fans shouldnt be bothered by the suggestion or even interested.
Bruce is one possible name that might be in the frame for the job.
Maybe even platty will get the job.
Matt Clark
17 Jan 2003, 08:06 AM
Personally, I think Curbishley would be an interesting successor to SGE.
sidspaceman
17 Jan 2003, 12:27 PM
Originally posted by sinner_ronald_monk
Cuper would play a similar defensive system to the one that sven plays .They both seem to have the same kind of dull personality as well .
the next coach should be someone like steve mcclaren or maybe steve bruce!!!.
Your 100% correct SRM and Culper might be duller than Sven.
Toon³
18 Jan 2003, 04:27 PM
i think England should sack SVG right now. He does not get the best out of a team with some much talent in its ranks. It seems that he can not get them working as a team and what England need is a motivator as manager. Barry Fry is a prime example he gives 100% to what ever team he is managing. I don't think we should sit around with a manager that has publicly said that he will go back to Italy someday.
BARRY FRY FOR ENGLAND
Matt Clark
19 Jan 2003, 08:26 AM
:rolleyes:
Better still, let's give Keggers another crack. You never know, maybe he was just sort of unlucky last time.
Clan
19 Jan 2003, 08:44 AM
Since we've already gone with the "non English" route, i wonder how Martin O'Neill would do?