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superdave
26 Dec 2005, 10:51 PM
ManU are ahead, but 'Pool have the games in hand. 'Pool are in better form, and the club is more stable. OTOH, ManU being out of Europe should keep their players fresher.

superdave
27 Dec 2005, 09:02 AM
Um, voters, you're allowed to explain your vote here. :o

terp fan
27 Dec 2005, 09:44 AM
It has to be Liverpool due to their consistency with clean sheets and recent run of form. Man U pulls the occasional stinker out of the blue and won't be consistent enough over the remainder of the season. In fairness though Chelsea will not be caught...they are by fair the class of the league again this year, they proved it again yesterday without playing well but still won.

prymetyme
27 Dec 2005, 01:17 PM
if man utd stays steady and keeps improving like they have lately i think it has to be man utd

Matt Clark
27 Dec 2005, 01:53 PM
Impossible to say at this stage. Judge teams when they're in the midst of a normal run of form, not an exceptional one. Just as writing us off in the early part of the season was daft, annoiting us Chelsea's heirs apparent now would be equally unrealistic. Same applies to United.

Having said that, United's current position and form, compared to any of the past 10 seasons or so, is bloody good. The fact that Chelsea are blowing them away anyway and Liverpool are matching them comfortably says more about the competitiveness of the Premier League than it does about United. News of their premature demise has been grossly overstated, they're in rude health. The European exit was amusing, but not ultimately significant when it comes to league action.

superdave
27 Dec 2005, 03:34 PM
Having said that, United's current position and form, compared to any of the past 10 seasons or so, is bloody good. The fact that Chelsea are blowing them away anyway and Liverpool are matching them comfortably says more about the competitiveness of the Premier League than it does about United.
Um, wouldn't that say something about the LACK of competitiveness in the EPL???

nicephoras
27 Dec 2005, 04:14 PM
Um, wouldn't that say something about the LACK of competitiveness in the EPL???

If there was a lack of competitiveness we'd be undefeated and leading our rivals by a larger margin.

shazfazam
27 Dec 2005, 06:51 PM
Man U has a better chance cause they have actually beaten Chelsea in the EPL this year while Liverpool lost.

Whats up with Chelsea and Manchester? Last year chelseas only league loss was to Man City. :confused:

FlanInTheFace
27 Dec 2005, 06:54 PM
liverpool has been very good lately
i honestly believe they will be close if not win the title next season

Colm
27 Dec 2005, 06:55 PM
Hard to say really. Both are on very good form, It will be very tight. Though with Liverpool playing more games i believe they'll tire out at some stage with might lead to United to take advantage.

OrlandoSPUR
27 Dec 2005, 07:05 PM
...to be honest I can't see anyone taking Chavski's title for a few years, like the United teams of the late 90's and the Pool teams in the 80's, Chavski will go on a role for a bit, but that's just football. Other team's may not be able to compete financially with the Russian Don, but football tends to have a dominant side, but at some point another team will come and knock em off their perch.

GOYA-GOYA
27 Dec 2005, 07:06 PM
I hate to say it, but the only team that is going to catch them is Chelsea themselves. They will need to implode for this to happen, and I don't see it happening.

It really bothers me when the state of the game is influenced by a billionaire that wants to buy cups. Doesn't he know that he can go to Tiffany's to buy them? He doesn't have to denegrate the foundation of the game for his own pleasure.

:mad:

superdave
27 Dec 2005, 09:26 PM
If there was a lack of competitiveness we'd be undefeated and leading our rivals by a larger margin.
You've lost one match, so I guess the EPL is a hypercompetitive league. :rolleyes:

Look, Matt's argument was backwards. To have one team with a nearly unblemished record halfway through the season, yet have two teams within striking distance, tells you that relative to the rest of the league, the good teams are REALLY good. There's a lack of parity. That's not a value judgment, it's a fact. Admit reality and move on.

nicephoras
27 Dec 2005, 09:54 PM
You've lost one match, so I guess the EPL is a hypercompetitive league. :rolleyes:

How many have ManUtd lost?

Look, Matt's argument was backwards. To have one team with a nearly unblemished record halfway through the season, yet have two teams within striking distance, tells you that relative to the rest of the league, the good teams are REALLY good. There's a lack of parity. That's not a value judgment, it's a fact. Admit reality and move on.

There's a lack of parity overall, not at the top. That was Matt's point. As always happens, when someone new begins setting the standard, others will work harder to achieve that standard. That's what's being asked of ManUtd now. But since when is parity in the EPL a good thing?

Howard Zinn
27 Dec 2005, 09:56 PM
Of course, I voted Man U, and I would just like to add that I hate scousers. :D

I really don't think Chelski will be caught, but Rooney is the sort of special player that can strap a side on his back and carry them to great things. He is the difference between us and 'pool.

superdave
28 Dec 2005, 12:56 AM
How many have ManUtd lost?

I dunno. You brought up Chelsea's record, not ManU's. :rolleyes:

Anyway, you're implying a definition of "competitiveness" that suggests that the SPL was the most competitive league in the world in whichever season there was the greatest gap between 2nd and 3rd.

But since when is parity in the EPL a good thing?

If only I had written something like:

There's a lack of parity. That's not a value judgment

Then it would be plain I wasn't giving an opinion on whether or not parity was a good thing. :rolleyes:

Matt Clark
28 Dec 2005, 05:00 AM
Um, wouldn't that say something about the LACK of competitiveness in the EPL???

No - United and Liverpool have both put together runs that would have won them the league five years ago, but Chelsea have put together an even better run. Ergo, the league is more of a competition now than it ever has been. Or, to put it another way, you want to win it, you've got to be more competitive than ever before.

Matt Clark
28 Dec 2005, 05:02 AM
Of course, I voted Man U, and I would just like to add that I hate scousers. :D

S'funny, I don't think we've ever given a second thought to people from Tennessee. What a strange preoccupation you've got going there ...

sinner78
28 Dec 2005, 06:07 AM
ManU are ahead, but 'Pool have the games in hand. 'Pool are in better form, and the club is more stable. OTOH, ManU being out of Europe should keep their players fresher.


same as last season..

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The Potter
28 Dec 2005, 08:16 AM
same as last season..

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