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bsas
09 Jan 2006, 08:51 AM
Continuing on the "What are our NT assets?" vibe:) I just saw a video of Messi's plays in the Barça-Espanyol game, and I must say this guy is a phenomenon, not that I didn't know it, but you just get reminded of it when you see him play.

I can't wait to have him integrated in the NT, whether a dwarf or not...

JuveFE
09 Jan 2006, 10:01 AM
Continuing on the "What are our NT assets?" vibe:) I just saw a video of Messi's plays in the Barça-Espanyol game, and I must say this guy is a phenomenon, not that I didn't know it, but you just get reminded of it when you see him play.

I can't wait to have him integrated in the NT, whether a dwarf or not...
i know what you mean. the fact that he's only a kid and looks this good and is only gonna get better, brings a smile to everyones face

Xeneize12
10 Jan 2006, 10:17 PM
So...having said all that, what's our NT missing?

megamac20817
11 Jan 2006, 05:05 PM
It seems the consensus is: Backups for the defence, and a better Goalkeeper.

acmilan_barcelona
12 Jan 2006, 12:45 PM
It seems the consensus is: Backups for the defence, and a better Goalkeeper.

True, surely a better goal keeper, Lux and Aboondanzieri are good but prone to mistakes some times. The defence needs some help not because it lacks quality but because of the injuries. Ayala is still one of the best and Heinze but they are on and off with injuries. Samuel is having a brilliant season, perfect timing for the world cup but he will need some help. Coloccini needs to play regularly club wise while the ever green Zanetti also needs a high quality understudy in case he is suspended or injured.

El viejo Matias
12 Jan 2006, 03:27 PM
Aside from Goal keepers I think we are pretty stacked, it is just a matter of finding a "team" that works well together... I mean we really have not a set core yet or formation. We are also short a bit in the LB and RB position as well as the "true" striker position, but that can be worked with, the worries lie in the fact that aside from Sorin, Zanetti, Riquelme, Ayala, Crespo we still don't know whom else will join the list as "for sure" starters . With 5 months to go it is a growing concern!!:(

in da soup
12 Jan 2006, 04:39 PM
tevez, samuel, mascherano, heinze if fit. these guys are certain to start. pato too. that makes ten of the eleven. the last place in midfield goes to lucho/messi/aimar/cambiasso.

El viejo Matias
12 Jan 2006, 07:28 PM
Heinze won't be fit, sorry, I think we should all give up that dream. Samuel should not start with Ayala, Rodriguez should, so that I think is not certain. Tevez is sure to be the fan fave, but is it Pekermann's choice?? I think Lucho is not certain either,,, in reality is Pato certain:eek: :confused: , so in truth maybe if we stretch it we have 7 or 8 certain and that is hoping they are all fit and ready!!:(

benni...
12 Jan 2006, 09:38 PM
Ok, what are the chances of Sergio Aguero making it to the world cup squad? Has he had any caps at youth level?

COBRA007
12 Jan 2006, 10:24 PM
What's this NT missing?

For my taste, it's missing a caudillo (enforcer). Think back to last WC or even 98 - you had el Cholo Simeone there---first one to be in the opponents face, arguing, pressuring. Today, our national team is missing such a character. For example, think back to the game against Uruguay, where Tevez and others were getting their legs broken by every member of the Celeste (I see nothing wrong with this - they were fighting to get into the WC). During this game, there was no one stepping up tp protect our players - not even in a collective fashion. If our team is going to succeed we will need this type of player. I see this as one of the biggest components missing from our team.

Your thoughts?

maradona

Futballer
12 Jan 2006, 11:22 PM
Crespo, Riquelme, Zanetti, Tevez, Sorin, Gonzalo, Ayala, Aimar, Mascherano should all start.

in da soup
13 Jan 2006, 08:25 AM
Ok, what are the chances of Sergio Aguero making it to the world cup squad? Has he had any caps at youth level?

he has had caps at youth level and in my opinion he should go.

COBRA007
13 Jan 2006, 09:05 AM
he has had caps at youth level and in my opinion he should go.

go to world cup in place off who ?

El viejo Matias
14 Jan 2006, 01:10 PM
Aguero is good, but exactly who would he go in place of. We need to take 3 keepers that leaves us with 20 outfield players. We need at least 6 defenders if not 7, 4 strikers or 5 if e want a more ecletic mix that leaves us with about 8 midfeild positions.. so Aguero is not eady yet when we consider the talents of Messi , Palacio and the speed of Saviola, Crespo, height of Cruz, Aimar's explosiveness, Riquelme, Lucho, Cambiasso, Mascherano, Demichelis, Sorin, Zanetti, Ayala, Samuel, Milito, Gonzo Rodriguez, Quiroga or Collocini or Placente, Solari or Maxi or Killy or Bilos or Castroman, and maybe either another defensive pesene in the likes of Battaglia or another mid creator like D'Allesandro or possibly a wing player like Delgado... after this it is all keepers, I can't see room for Aguero.

megamac20817
14 Jan 2006, 01:52 PM
Agüero definately should go in over Castroman.

scorpion09
14 Jan 2006, 09:47 PM
what are the chances for Claudio "El Piojo" Lopez to go to the world cup:confused:

shaf-argentina
14 Jan 2006, 11:40 PM
slim to nil, with the latter being a very high possibility :)

megamac20817
15 Jan 2006, 12:36 AM
Killy isn't going. He isn't playing enough right now. But he would be a good choice in Left Mid, in case Sorin ever gets injured. Or maybe Solari could be called up again.

ooops...
Claudio Lopez is definately not going. With Aguero, Tevez, Crespo, Cruz, Saviola, Castroman, Figueroa and Messi all ahead of him.

scorpion09
15 Jan 2006, 03:45 AM
Killy isn't going. He isn't playing enough right now. But he would be a good choice in Left Mid, in case Sorin ever gets injured. Or maybe Solari could be called up again.

ooops...
Claudio Lopez is definately not going. With Aguero, Tevez, Crespo, Cruz, Saviola, Castroman, Figueroa and Messi all ahead of him.

but out of those players you mentioned how many of them play left forward?
i think he deserves to go to the world cup(at least to play as a replacement)
I would prefer el piojo more than Figueroa(just my opinion):D

megamac20817
15 Jan 2006, 03:48 AM
As left forward I'd much rather have Saviola tried out there, or Chelito Delgado tbh.