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Howard Zinn
25 Dec 2005, 06:53 PM
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=21583&cc=5901
Doesn't look he's doing as well, 2 G's in 10 games.
But look at Convey: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=33093&cc=5901
Not that bad though he's not the offensive, creative forward that Beasley is.
It appears that he isn't having the season he had last year. Shame. I didn't know that PSV used him as a striker though. I always assumed that he was an attacking left winger, unless they are playing that 4-3-3 formation with him on the left up top.
Convey looks to be doing well, but he is in a lower league than Beasley which may account for the difference.
Clan
25 Dec 2005, 07:31 PM
Convey looks to be doing well, but he is in a lower league than Beasley which may account for the difference.
Don't let the fact that he's in the coca-cola league take away from his performances.There are many fine teams in the coke league, Reading are doing quite well, if he wasn't turning in quality performances, he wouldn't be starting.
Howard Zinn
25 Dec 2005, 07:36 PM
Don't let the fact that he's in the coca-cola league take away from his performances.There are many fine teams in the coke league, Reading are doing quite well, if he wasn't turning in quality performances, he wouldn't be starting.
I'm not knocking Convey playing in the coca-cola, but clearly that level of play can not be compared to Beasley winning the Dutch League and making it far in the Champions League last season.
BED-STYPUNDIT
25 Dec 2005, 07:40 PM
Just because I want Monkee to slag us constantly so he can eat those same words in June! Plus it gives me another reason to avoid the entire USA area of this board and all the mongo's that populate it.
Here's my preferred formation for the WC
---------------Keller--------------
Lewis--Onyewu--Cherundolo--Albright
--------------Reyna--------------
Donovan------------------Beasley
-------------Dempsey-------------
------McBride------Twellman------
Though i appreciate the love for Twellman since he hasn't fairlly had a chance to prove his quality by playing with the FULL FIRST TEAM, a big difference for all you Twellman haters, to put our best wingback in the central where no one remembers him ever playing that position along with Twellman ahead of a possibly healthy and back in form Eddie Johnson, to go with a talented, but unproven Dempsey in the lineup is absolutely silly, no insult intended.
Walter3000
25 Dec 2005, 07:47 PM
It appears that he isn't having the season he had last year. Shame. I didn't know that PSV used him as a striker though. I always assumed that he was an attacking left winger, unless they are playing that 4-3-3 formation with him on the left up top.
Convey looks to be doing well, but he is in a lower league than Beasley which may account for the difference.
Beasley plays on the right up top for PSV, Farfan plays on the left.
Donovan is playing in MLS, as is Eddie Johnson and a few others, but they will be starters, should they not be due to their league strength?
Beasley should start on the right for us, solving our biggest problem, Convey on the left.
yossarian
25 Dec 2005, 07:49 PM
You know what...I confused Berhalter and Cherundolo. I was sitting here wondering why everyone is getting all over me about that and how small he is so I looked them up on USSoccer.com and found:
Cherundolo: 5-6 145
Berhalter: 6-1 175
My bad!
Now this makes much more sense. Cherundolo is the small fellow that plays for Hannover.
Howard Zinn
25 Dec 2005, 07:52 PM
Beasley plays on the right up top for PSV, Farfan plays on the left.
Donovan is playing in MLS, as is Eddie Johnson and a few others, but they will be starters, should they not be due to their league strength?
Beasley should start on the right for us, solving our biggest problem, Convey on the left.
But Beasley is left footed isn't he? :confused:
I never said that Convey shouldn't be starting. I just said that you can't say Convey is outperforming Beasley without mentioning that Beasley is doing it at a tougher level of play (especially Champions League). I do believe my later post explains this.
yossarian
25 Dec 2005, 07:55 PM
But Beasley is left footed isn't he? :confused:
I never said that Convey shouldn't be starting. I just said that you can't say Convey is outperforming Beasley without mentioning that Beasley is doing it at a tougher level of play (especially Champions League). I do believe my later post explains this.
I'm with you.....I thought Beasley usually plays on the left. I know last season when Arsenal played PSV in the CL, he was on the left because Lauren was marking him and gave him a kick or two.
Clan
25 Dec 2005, 07:56 PM
I'm not knocking Convey playing in the coca-cola, but clearly that level of play can not be compared to Beasley winning the Dutch League and making it far in the Champions League last season.
True.
Although, given the strength of the Dutch league, outside of the top 3, a comparison between club play is not at all wide of the mark.
Clan
25 Dec 2005, 07:58 PM
You know what...I confused Berhalter and Cherundolo. I was sitting here wondering why everyone is getting all over me about that and how small he is so I looked them up on USSoccer.com and found:
Cherundolo: 5-6 145
Berhalter: 6-1 175
My bad!
Perhaps you do need to mingle with the...er........;)
Howard Zinn
25 Dec 2005, 08:04 PM
I'm with you.....I thought Beasley usually plays on the left. I know last season when Arsenal played PSV in the CL, he was on the left because Lauren was marking him and gave him a kick or two.
I actually think that he did play on the left last season, but that was when they had Park on the right. Park got sold :D , so I suppose they put Beasley on the right, which may have resulted in what appears to be his current lack of form. He may just be uncomfortable in the position.
JoshDB
25 Dec 2005, 08:28 PM
Park got sold :D
To who?
Howard Zinn
25 Dec 2005, 08:38 PM
To who?
<---------- ;)
Walter3000
25 Dec 2005, 08:45 PM
I'm with you.....I thought Beasley usually plays on the left. I know last season when Arsenal played PSV in the CL, he was on the left because Lauren was marking him and gave him a kick or two.
When all players are fit, now that Farfan has come into his own, it is Beasley on the right, farfan on the left. At least that is how it has been this season(I have followed them more closely than last), and last season against Milan, Beasely was also on the right before being subbed off for JVOH.
I think last season he was in a rotation with Farfan, Park, and himself. Now with Park gone, he and Farfan get most of the starts together.
Yes, DMB is left footed, but that isnt stopping his performance for PSV, nor is it stopping Duff or Robben when they play out right for Chelsea(not saying he is on there levels).
JoshDB
25 Dec 2005, 08:52 PM
<---------- ;)
Yeah, I know. :D
yossarian
25 Dec 2005, 08:54 PM
When all players are fit, now that Farfan has come into his own, it is Beasley on the right, farfan on the left. At least that is how it has been this season(I have followed them more closely than last), and last season against Milan, Beasely was also on the right before being subbed off for JVOH.
I think last season he was in a rotation with Farfan, Park, and himself. Now with Park gone, he and Farfan get most of the starts together.
Yes, DMB is left footed, but that isnt stopping his performance for PSV, nor is it stopping Duff or Robben when they play out right for Chelsea(not saying he is on there levels).
Fair enough. Although I distinctly recall him playing on the left in both of the matches against Arsenal.
Walter3000
25 Dec 2005, 10:13 PM
Fair enough. Although I distinctly recall him playing on the left in both of the matches against Arsenal.
Beasley started the first matchup between those two teams, Farfan did not.
Farfan started the second matchup, Beasley did not.
BED-STYPUNDIT
26 Dec 2005, 03:08 AM
Has DaMark had anytime on the flanks this year in the league with PSV, cause it seems like they still want to use him as a just a forward?
Walter3000
26 Dec 2005, 06:31 AM
Has DaMark had anytime on the flanks this year in the league with PSV, cause it seems like they still want to use him as a just a forward?
He's playing forward in a 4-3-3, still similarities to a winger.
Alan D
26 Dec 2005, 06:41 AM
You have to include Reyna in the US starting line-up for World Cup. Is he the captain for USA?