Johnny Damon

[jwaldman11]

Doesn't make up for the theft of Fever Pitch. :mad:
That last one might require me to go buy that "Boston Sucks" t-shirt I saw in the mall here the other day.

[DoctorK]

That last one might require me to go buy that "Boston Sucks" t-shirt I saw in the mall here the other day.

Albany's Crossgates? Careful, that's the only mall where you can get arrested for wearing a peace sign!

Boston Sucks shirts are ideal attire for casual Fridays. :D

[PsychedelicCeltic]

So, what's the general feeling among Arsenal fans who also love the hardball about Johnny Damon's defection to the Yankees?

I think it's absolute garbage and proof that 90% of American athletes (and probably most European athletes, too) are only loyal to money. Damon's represented by Scott Boras, also known as The Antichrist, also known as Hideous Leech, who is responsible for many of the ridiculous contracts in baseball over the past decade.

Damon has given a massive middle finger to the organization that he won the World Series with just 14 months ago and it's hurtful to baseball, because it proves that there is no loyalty and ultimately no rivalry outside of the fandom.

This is close to an equivalent to Henry or Bergkamp going to farking Spurs or ManUre.

Or Sol Campbell going to Arsenal?

Sports is about money. Life is about money (anybody here who wouldn't leave a company if a rival company was providing more is a liar). If you haven't noticed, Johnny Damon was signed as a free agent because Dan Duquette gave him $32 million.

[Ian Lozada]

So, what's the general feeling among Arsenal fans who also love the hardball about Johnny Damon's defection to the Yankees?

I think it's absolute garbage and proof that 90% of American athletes (and probably most European athletes, too) are only loyal to money. Damon's represented by Scott Boras, also known as The Antichrist, also known as Hideous Leech, who is responsible for many of the ridiculous contracts in baseball over the past decade.

Damon has given a massive middle finger to the organization that he won the World Series with just 14 months ago and it's hurtful to baseball, because it proves that there is no loyalty and ultimately no rivalry outside of the fandom.

This is close to an equivalent to Henry or Bergkamp going to farking Spurs or ManUre.

As Derrick Coleman once said, "Well, whoop-de-damn-do."

The Red Sox made no effort to sign the guy. It's not like Varitek last year, was it? They made Varitek know from the start he was their most important priority. The Sox showed Damon that they could take or leave him, so he got the message.

I mean, have you read the Sports Guy's column (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/051223) on this? Just get a damned grip, kid.

[Ian Lozada]

Yankees actually make the revenue they throw back in the team,so it's not fair to compare them to Chelsea. He's made more revenue from tickets and TV so he's put it back into his team. That is a GOOD thing. The fact that other owners can't do it or won't do it is moot. Its not the Yankees fault that baseball doesn't have a salary cap. This is a players union issue. the Yankees are doing this by the book. To hold a grudge against the Yankees in this matter is completely wrong. They have a huge payroll but they also pay a huge luxury tax that goes into the kitty. At the end of the day it only matters if they spend smart. Spending 15 million dollars on Kevin Brown last year didn't affect anybody.

Especially when you consider than in terms of personal wealth, George Steinbrenner is decidedly in the bottom half of MLB owners. Not anywhere near the net worth of say, Carl Pohlad, for one.

[PsychedelicCeltic]

I'm a Red Sox fan, but I'm increasingly able to empatheize with those that hate Red Sox fans. There is some very self-content, self-important whining going on in Red Sox Nation.

A great amount of venom towards ex-players too. Red Sox fans aren't very good at being able to let go. Instead they seem to rather wish hurt upon ex-players, which is lame.

[yossarian]

I'm a Red Sox fan, but I'm increasingly able to empatheize with those that hate Red Sox fans. There is some very self-content, self-important whining going on in Red Sox Nation.

A great amount of venom towards ex-players too. Red Sox fans aren't very good at being able to let go. Instead they seem to rather wish hurt upon ex-players, which is lame.

Thanks for Renteria, by the way.......;)

Hopefully his return to the senior circuit will see his play return to the level it was two years ago.

Marte is a great prospect for you guys.....I was sorry to see him go.

[PsychedelicCeltic]

True, but Chipper was blocking him so he was useless to you guys. We'll live..

[Bluto11]

Or Sol Campbell going to Arsenal?

Sports is about money. Life is about money (anybody here who wouldn't leave a company if a rival company was providing more is a liar). If you haven't noticed, Johnny Damon was signed as a free agent because Dan Duquette gave him $32 million.
plus Damon played with the Royals for 7 years and Oakland for 1 year before moving to Boston for 4 years. It's not like he was born and raised in Boston, walked out of the stands and into centerfield, and then just decided to piss off to New York.

[Howard Zinn]

So who's going to play CF and SS for the Red Sox now that both Damon and Renteria are gone. Have they made some signings I haven't kept up with? :confused:

[PsychedelicCeltic]

plus Damon played with the Royals for 7 years and Oakland for 1 year before moving to Boston for 4 years. It's not like he was born and raised in Boston, walked out of the stands and into centerfield, and then just decided to piss off to New York.
We had a guy like that once.

We didn't offer him a contract on time because our owner wanted his kid to play catcher, so he went to Chicago instead.

********** you Fisk - YOU TRAITOR!!!!

[Bluto11]

We had a guy like that once.

We didn't offer him a contract on time because our owner wanted his kid to play catcher, so he went to Chicago instead.

********** you Fisk - YOU TRAITOR!!!!
good ole Pudge.

:)

[yossarian]

We had a guy like that once.

We didn't offer him a contract on time because our owner wanted his kid to play catcher, so he went to Chicago instead.

********** you Fisk - YOU TRAITOR!!!!

It happens. After Glavine left the Braves a few years ago, I wasn't surprised by Damon leaving Boston.

[Howard Zinn]

It happens. After Glavine left the Braves a few years ago, I wasn't surprised by Damon leaving Boston.


Damon took the money and ran, plain and simple. I don't blame him at all.


Hey yoss, since you seem to be a Braves fan, I was wondering if you think the south will ever get another baseball team. We've got the Braves and Marlins, and maybe the Nats if you want to count them, but I've always thought Tennessee could get one in Nashville. It would be centrally located, and I think well supported. The south needs another team so everyone isn't forced to support the Braves. (lol no offense :D )

[otterulz]

I mean, have you read the Sports Guy's column (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/051223) on this? Just get a damned grip, kid.
Exactly.

[yossarian]

Damon took the money and ran, plain and simple. I don't blame him at all.

Yes, he did....which only reinforces my point. The Braves offered Glavine a contract that wasn't significantly worse than the one offered by the Mets....yet Glavine still took it....despite all his talk about his loyalty to the Braves. After that, nothing surprises me.


Hey yoss, since you seem to be a Braves fan, I was wondering if you think the south will ever get another baseball team. We've got the Braves and Marlins, and maybe the Nats if you want to count them, but I've always thought Tennessee could get one in Nashville. It would be centrally located, and I think well supported. The south needs another team so everyone isn't forced to support the Braves. (lol no offense :D )

I don't know enough about the inner workings of baseball politics to say one way or another. I wouldn't really care per se. I will say though that I'm a bit of a purist when it comes to baseball. I hate the wildcard and the 3 divisions in each league, hate interleague play also.

[Howard Zinn]

Yes, he did....which only reinforces my point. The Braves offered Glavine a contract that wasn't significantly worse than the one offered by the Mets....yet Glavine still took it....despite all his talk about his loyalty to the Braves. After that, nothing surprises me.


I don't know enough about the inner workings of baseball politics to say one way or another. I wouldn't really care per se. I will say though that I'm a bit of a purist when it comes to baseball. I hate the wildcard and the 3 divisions in each league, hate interleague play also.


Yeah, that was a bit of a shock when Glavine left, though with the way he's pitched with the Mets I really don't think you would have wanted him in Atlanta the past couple of years anyway.

I actually forgot the Devil Rays in my southern team count, although that is understandable. :D I propose forcing the horrible DRays ownership to sell to a group that would ship the team to Nashville. No new teams, the DRays get better ownership and get put in a better market, and Tampa Bay gets rid of the embarrasment that is the DRays. Everybody wins. :D

[PsychedelicCeltic]

Nowhere in the South is really close to being a future MLB market. Charlotte is probably the closest, but the reality is it's going to need another half million people as right now it's only as big as the smallest MLB markets.

Nashville isn't even on the radar - it's a smaller market than Providence by several hundred thousand people, and frankly Providence would have a stronger case, being in an area that has traditionally supported baseball, and the reality is Providence isn't anything more than a strong Triple-A market.

[prymetyme]

Johnny Damon has lost all respect ive ever had for him and i speek as a Sox fan and many others feel this way it would be different if he went somewhre like arizona just for the money, but he went to the yanks which is a cardinal sin and all i can say is I hope i have tickets for the 1st game when he comes back to boston because hes going to get booed so bad.

[Howard Zinn]

Nowhere in the South is really close to being a future MLB market. Charlotte is probably the closest, but the reality is it's going to need another half million people as right now it's only as big as the smallest MLB markets.

Nashville isn't even on the radar - it's a smaller market than Providence by several hundred thousand people, and frankly Providence would have a stronger case, being in an area that has traditionally supported baseball, and the reality is Providence isn't anything more than a strong Triple-A market.


How are you determining market size? :confused: I've got census numbers in these links:

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/44/4459000.html

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/47/4752006.html

Plus, Providence would get crushed in between the two largest fan bases in baseball (Red Sox and Yankees). Nashville would be all alone.