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GriffinGunner
28 Dec 2005, 01:31 PM
....and now on to a discussion of Carroll's "Through the Looking Glass."

;)
The pseudo-political commentary or the Freudian pedophilic angle?

Sounds as if modern generations are doomed, jaded by our improved knowledge of how the mind works and about the context of times surrounding classic literature. :D

KevTheGooner
28 Dec 2005, 01:38 PM
....and now on to a discussion of Carroll's "Through the Looking Glass."

;)

Ahh, yes, Freudian allegory. Now there's something more appropriate for this thread title!! ;)

GriffinGunner
28 Dec 2005, 01:48 PM
Re: Animal Farm
a) Loved the book and thus anxiously awaited the TNT movie version that came out some time ago. The result was further proof that there will always be a few stories which should never leap from the pages.

b) Someone wrote a paper not long ago comparing modern Europe to the pigs. Obviously not something that Orwell could have accounted for (although...!) but it was very well done. Perhaps such literature should be standard reading for every new elected official around the globe, no?

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From the CNN headlines today

- " 'Time to Make the Donuts' actor dies" Well, I guess there are worse things to be remembered for, right Mr. Federline?

- "Canada blames US for exporting gun violence" How does this affect the GDP? Did anyone think we'd have to import this industry?

- "Fitness experts: 'Don't let kids hibernate' " a) How? b) Why not? Obviously these fitness experts don't have kids of their own.

- "EU launches Galileo satellite" Provided it doesn't prove too costly or a setback for science, it would be all too perfect if the French and/or Italians lose this thing. Which was launched from Kazakhstan ("When you think Europe...") which is described by Lonely Planet as a place for those who'd love "remoteness, wide open spaces, lunar landscapes, long hypnotic train rides and horse sausage."

surfcam
28 Dec 2005, 01:57 PM
BINGO! In this man's opinion there is no toy on earth greater than Lego's, particularly the classic ones!

I loved the knights series and we'd play with those endlessly. I'd practically give up playing soccer again* if I could have every knights lego set ever made for me and my boy. And hell yes I'd be playing with him all day - screw cable/satellite TV! That's what lured me into architecture to begin with.

(* = author accepts the fact age, health and reality suggests he may never play organized soccer again anyway. Side note: My father was among the founding members of Georgia's Adult Soccer Program, a way for parents and coaches to acquaint themselves with the game in the 70's. Yes, it adopted a new name/acronym once the GSSA took it over.)

Space Legos are the bomb!!! I made all kinds of intergalactic ships with plenty of secret compartments and break-away ships! Yes, I am an engineering nerd. :D

phishy
28 Dec 2005, 01:58 PM
Space Legos are the bomb!!! I made all kinds of intergalactic ships with plenty of secret compartments and break-away ships! Yes, I am an engineering nerd. :D

moi aussi~

surfcam
28 Dec 2005, 02:00 PM
By all means, please do.....the more the merrier.......:)

Btw, one of my favorite final paragraphs in any book......

"Twelve voices were shouting in anger, and they were all alike. No question, now, what had happened to the faces of the pigs. The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which."

I haven't read Orwell in quite some time. May need to pick some up again at the library soon! Another good animal-man works is Animals by Pink Floyd! :D

arsenalgirl30016
28 Dec 2005, 02:02 PM
Anyone been to the Legoland place in California? I think that would be a cool place to visit!

phishy
28 Dec 2005, 02:05 PM
i am seriously going to freak out... no idea how im going to deal with tomorrow at work... this day has been a nightmare... dragging.
*stares at clock*
*anticipating the weekend way too much*

GriffinGunner
28 Dec 2005, 02:09 PM
Space Legos are the bomb!!! I made all kinds of intergalactic ships with plenty of secret compartments and break-away ships! Yes, I am an engineering nerd. :D
Yes, those, too. I remember when they came out with the facemasks that flipped up, which seemed like the most awesome thing at the time. Too many pieces on the modern kits are specialized that some don't feel like Legos at all. The original Lego castle was yellow and all bricks, no pre-fab wall pieces or anything, meaning it took forever and a day to build. (For a kid, anyway.) But that was part of the allure and it meant you could make so many variations. Loved the instructions with no words.

After the knights and space sets you had to also love the fire stations and trucks. Every boy would make the next Lego 'Towering Inferno' and send umpteen trucks and troops to put out the blaze. (Which was often started by those nasty Shogun Warriors, but that's another story...)

My father actually found a bag of my Legos that he handed off this weekend. No brochures or anything with it but judging by the volume of grey and blue peices these are from the space line. Need to find some old boxes and catalogs. Kudos to the man/woman that finds a log of all the classic Lego kits.

GriffinGunner
28 Dec 2005, 02:10 PM
Anyone been to the Legoland place in California? I think that would be a cool place to visit!
Been to the shop in Mall of America. Stayed there for an hour or so while my wife and Mother-in-law shopped.

GriffinGunner
28 Dec 2005, 02:11 PM
i am seriously going to freak out... no idea how im going to deal with tomorrow at work... this day has been a nightmare... dragging.
*stares at clock*
*anticipating the weekend way too much*
Want to borrow my Legos?

Do this High Fidelity style. Top five distractions from real work?

GriffinGunner
28 Dec 2005, 02:14 PM
Here you go Phishman: My daughter also got a joke book for Christmas.
Where do you find a turtle with no legs?




















Where you left him... :D

phishy
28 Dec 2005, 02:16 PM
Here you go Phishman: My daughter also got a joke book for Christmas.
Where do you find a turtle with no legs?




















Where you left him... :D

how do you render a successful businessman utterly useless?
































make him work the few days before new years eve~

GriffinGunner
28 Dec 2005, 02:44 PM
how do you render any businessman utterly useless?



make him work between Christmas and New Years Eve~
;)

yossarian
28 Dec 2005, 02:51 PM
The pseudo-political commentary or the Freudian pedophilic angle?

Sounds as if modern generations are doomed, jaded by our improved knowledge of how the mind works and about the context of times surrounding classic literature. :D

The pseudo-political/philosophical commentary, of course.

GriffinGunner
28 Dec 2005, 03:04 PM
All hail the King!
http://img.lugnet.com/display.cgi?set/new/upload/375-2-970092862.jpg

feej92
28 Dec 2005, 03:50 PM
I haven't read Orwell in quite some time. May need to pick some up again at the library soon! Another good animal-man works is Animals by Pink Floyd! :D

speaking of the Floyd,

This is a simple legend to verify; first, buy Dark Side of the Moon. Its been suggested that you use the digitally remastered and repackaged Dark Side of the Moon with the solid prism / triangle on the cover rather than the hollow prism / triangle from the original cover of the album. Both covers by Storm Thorgerson / Hipgnosis®

Then, get The Wizard of Oz. Again, Its been suggested that you make sure to use the digitally remastered THX® 50th Anniversary edition.

Put the two together, and mush them all around, out comes an eerie relationship between the monumentous album and classic film.

Transitions between scenes are often perfectly timed with musical changes.

Turn the sound of the film all the way down, and turn the sound of the album up as high as you can stand.
It will probably take you a few tries to get the sync lined up just right so be patient. First load the Dark Side of the Moon CD into your CD player and hit PLAY (>) and then immediately hit PAUSE (II) so it is cued up and ready to roll. Be sure also to set your CD player to continuous replay. This in most CD players is done by hitting the "REPEAT" button twice. Hitting it once will usually repeat only the presently playing track so hit the button two (2) times and it will replay the CD over and over. The CD will play roughly two and a quarter times through the entire length of the movie.

Now start the video and fast forward past all the preview junk (about five minutes worth on the THX version) at the beginning and watch for the THX Digital logo to pop up. Now get the tape to the very beginning where the BLACK & WHITE MGM lion roars. After the BLACK & WHITE MGM Lion roars for the THIRD (3rd) time IMMEDIATELY hit the play button on the CD player.

The credits begin to roll, and the ambient noise that opens the album begins. You know the synchronicity will work if the music kicks in just as Produced by Mervyn Leroy pops up.

Now, we would suggest you stop reading here and experience it first. It is much more fun to watch it without knowing, ahead of time, what you are going to see. Otherwise, from here, we are going to take you on a step by step tour of the scenes and music as they occur.
The coincidence eeirily begins when the album says, "... Look around ..." which prompts Dorothy to look around.
As the line "balanced on the biggest wave" from Breathe is uttered, Dorothy teeters on the rail of the pig-sty.
She then breaks into a trot just as the line "No one told you when to run" from Time is heard.
The chimes in Time go off at the appearance of Mrs Gulch (Wicked Witch of the West) on the bicycle and the chimes stop when she gets off the bike. "I've got a bike. You can ride it if you like. It's got a basket, a bell that rings and things to make it look good ..."
"... Home, home again ..." as Professor Marvel tells Dorothy that she needs to go back home.
The Great Gig in the Sky begins as the tornado appears and lasts exactly the length of the storm. On the record, this song is the end of the first side of the album and ironically, as Dorothy slowly pushes open the door, the black and white portion of the film ends, Oz appears in brash color, and "cha-ching," Money begins exactly on cue.
The munchkins begin to dance to the tempo of Money.
Before the Wicked Witch appears in a cloud of smoke, dressed in her black dress, just as the word "Black" is uttered in Us and Them.
Then the scene changes as Dorothy leaves Munchkin Land at the same time that "Us and Them" changes to "Any Colour You Like" The Scarecrow starts dancing just as "The lunatic is on the grass" is heard.
"... And everyone you meet..." is uttered as Dorothy meets the Tin Woodsman.
And the album ends with a slowly beating heartbeat, which comes just as Dorothy bangs on the Tin Man's chest to see if he's got a heart.

Now, if you've set up your CD player to repeat, the coincidences continue from here. Unfortunately, due to replay speeds, it is more difficult to match the album to the movie. But here are a few of the scenes you might catch!

When "... and high you fly ..." is spoken during Breathe, the Wicked Witch stands on top of the house with her flying broom.
On the Run then presents "... Shorter of breath and one day closer to death..." as Dorothy and Cowardly Lion appear to be dead.
This time, Money plays while they are in the Emerald City - "Cha-Ching" is heard as the Wicked Witch writes "Surrender Dorothy" in the sky.
"... Down and out ..." has the flying monkeys swoop down to capture Dorothy, and then fly out of the woods with her in their hands.

Believe it or not, the CD replays for a 3rd time (about half way through) and the coincidences continue! But we'll stop here for now to let you find the rest on your own!
As you find them, be sure to click here to email us or visit our message board to discuss ideas.

Now, get the album, pick up the video and then go back to The Garden to catch up on more rumors, facts, and fictions!


By the way at the end of Dark Side of the Moon, after you hear "There is no dark side of the moon really. As a matter of fact it's all dark ..." you can faintly hear some music playing. Strangely enough it's an orchestral version of The Beatles' Ticket to Ride. Both Pink Floyd and The Beatles recorded at Abbey Roads Studios and they, at times, contributed to each other in one fashion or another; certainly, at times tapes would have been erased and reused. Anyone know why they chose Ticket to Ride?

GriffinGunner
28 Dec 2005, 04:13 PM
Which means the Dark Side of the Moon is an allegory of American Capitalism and the Free Silver movement as well? Okay, maybe that's too much to ask.




Isn't it? ; )

feej92
28 Dec 2005, 04:18 PM
Which means the Dark Side of the Moon is an allegory of American Capitalism and the Free Silver movement as well? Okay, maybe that's too much to ask.




Isn't it? ; )

i agree. and dont forget that Paul is Dead. He blew his mind out in a car, he didn't notice that the lights had changed. :D

(here's another clue for you all...the Walrus was PAUL!)

GriffinGunner
28 Dec 2005, 04:46 PM
And I am Spartacus!

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Nearing 5 o' here, and seeing as NOTHING has been done today, I'll pack that up and head home for some foobaw on TV. Adios, amigos.