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Americans to face Poland(AP) (http://www.northjersey.com/page.php?qstr=eXJpcnk3ZjczN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXkxMzcmZmdiZWw3Zjd2cWVlRUV5eTY4NDM1NTcmeXJpcnk3ZjcxN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXk2)
A's owner + creativity = soccer and baseball in S.J.?-Mercury News (http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/soccer/13462587.htm)
Pro soccer team seeks public partner-Houston Chronicle (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/soc/3541446.html)
Houston wins big with new MLS team-Houston Chronicle (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/soc/3541362.html)
Honore de Ballsac
22 Dec 2005, 03:55 PM
A soccer-specific stadium also provides a much better venue to watch MLS games, Luck said.
"Sports are all about atmosphere," he said. "When you put 18,000, 20,000 or 22,000 people in Reliant Stadium, there is no atmosphere. It's like putting six people in a ballroom for dinner."
Well, not ALL about atmosphere Oliver.
MLS '06 will showcase teams in Gillette, Arrowhead, Invesco, Rice-Eccles, Giants Stadium... but you got a team 'cause Spartan wasn't good enough.
Jagermeister
22 Dec 2005, 05:24 PM
... but you got a team 'cause Spartan wasn't good enough.
Hey, you finally get it. Nice to see. Good for you.
PumaJohnny
22 Dec 2005, 09:06 PM
No doubt. If SJ fans would have spent as much time getting their friends to buy tickets as they have whining, they may still have a team.
(Negative rep doesn't make this any less true)
okcomputer
22 Dec 2005, 10:11 PM
A soccer-specific stadium also provides a much better venue to watch MLS games, Luck said.
"Sports are all about atmosphere," he said. "When you put 18,000, 20,000 or 22,000 people in Reliant Stadium, there is no atmosphere. It's like putting six people in a ballroom for dinner."
Well, not ALL about atmosphere Oliver.
MLS '06 will showcase teams in Gillette, Arrowhead, Invesco, Rice-Eccles, Giants Stadium... but you got a team 'cause Spartan wasn't good enough.
I actually felt sorry for you guys when you first lost your team but the constant whining is making almost happy.
Goodsport
22 Dec 2005, 10:18 PM
If SJ fans would have spent as much time getting their friends to buy tickets as they have whining, they may still have a team.
That's never been fans' responsibility - it's the front office's.
Though attendance had nothing to do with the move. Otherwise, almost the entire league would've been moved.
-G
Jagermeister
22 Dec 2005, 10:28 PM
That's never been fans' responsibility - it's the front office's.
Though attendance had nothing to do with the move. Otherwise, almost the entire league would've been moved.
-G
Exactly. It's the situation. The attendance, ad nauseum has been pretty good.
Why does everybody want to look at everything except the actual reasons this happened?
Guess it's easier to live in lala land. That's pretty much what all us sports fans do most of the time.
denver_mugwamp
22 Dec 2005, 10:35 PM
I actually felt sorry for you guys when you first lost your team but the constant whining is making almost happy.
Amen, brother. God help those folks if they need Don Garber's help in getting an expansion team because they're doing a pretty good job of trashing him. It would also be fitting if the deal for a new stadium needed AEG's backing because it might not be forthcoming.
Jagermeister
22 Dec 2005, 10:41 PM
Amen, brother. God help those folks if they need Don Garber's help in getting an expansion team because they're doing a pretty good job of trashing him. It would also be fitting if the deal for a new stadium needed AEG's backing because it might not be forthcoming.
AEG's priority is Houston now. Until that stadium deal is done I doubt SJ exists their mind. It wasn't a priority before, so it won't be now.
They did LA
Then Chicago
Got DC off their books
Then NY
Now it's Houston
okcomputer
23 Dec 2005, 01:37 AM
I think its pretty scary that AEG now owns the 4 biggest markets in the country and influence like that never is optimal but it is what it is. If other billionaires were stepping forward to either promote soccer or use it to build entertainment venues than I would be mad but from what I have have seen none of them are.
Honore de Ballsac
23 Dec 2005, 02:27 AM
Hey I was countering one point the guy made, with a valid point of my own. If that's whining get used to it. I'm certainly used to the flood of a-holes on BigSoccer.
ElJefe
23 Dec 2005, 03:06 AM
I think its pretty scary that AEG now owns the 4 biggest markets in the country...
Houston is the fourth largest city, but only the 10th largest metro area.
ElJefe
23 Dec 2005, 03:13 AM
Hey I was countering one point the guy made, with a valid point of my own.
It was valid up to the point where you brought up five stadiums. However, two of those stadiums (Giants Stadium and Invesco Field) definitely have lame-duck status. One of those stadiums (Rice-Eccles Stadium) is getting closer and closer to being lame-duck. And a fourth one (Arrowhead Stadium) is more or less lame-duck because the team occupying it will either get a new stadium of their own or they'll get moved out of town.
So really, only one of those stadiums (Gillette Stadium) is even worth mentioning. Yeah, I guess technically you're right, but your point was still pretty weak.
Jagermeister
23 Dec 2005, 08:05 AM
It was valid up to the point where you brought up five stadiums. However, two of those stadiums (Giants Stadium and Invesco Field) definitely have lame-duck status. One of those stadiums (Rice-Eccles Stadium) is getting closer and closer to being lame-duck. And a fourth one (Arrowhead Stadium) is more or less lame-duck because the team occupying it will either get a new stadium of their own or they'll get moved out of town.
So really, only one of those stadiums (Gillette Stadium) is even worth mentioning. Yeah, I guess technically you're right, but your point was still pretty weak.
Which is why people were calling him out as a whiner. His statement was Trecker-esque.
Technically correct, but convienently not writing about the flip side of the issue becuase that would destroy the whole point he was trying to make, or raise a lot more questions.
Partial truth, to fit a persons viewpoint, is better than the whole truth.
Then again, this is pretty much how our whole news system in this country works now.
bbsbt
24 Dec 2005, 01:39 PM
Partial truth, to fit a persons viewpoint, is better than the whole truth.
Then again, this is pretty much how our whole news system in this country works now.You got that right.
Honore de Ballsac
25 Dec 2005, 01:20 AM
I'm certainly used to the flood of a-holes on BigSoccer.
Et voila.
It's like putting out a salt lick.
Jagermeister
25 Dec 2005, 08:31 AM
Hey I was countering one point the guy made, with a valid point of my own. If that's whining get used to it. I'm certainly used to the flood of a-holes on BigSoccer.
Seems to me the aholes as you call them are the ones whose "valid" points are only partial in their descritpion.
Yours was certainly one sided and impartial. Yet, you sit there in some grandiose manner on some sort of pedestal while your "valid" facts are easily shot down and as flawed as they come.
As someone pointed out in a very professional honest manner.
Of course, an ahole can't deal with stuff like that.
They just use their half truth and then get upset, and blame and degrade others when called out.
That is a true ahole.
Viola.
Stan Collins
25 Dec 2005, 01:30 PM
The cynic gets raised to a higher standard because the cynic thinks he knows more than everybody else to begin with. So, if you're going to be cynical, attention to detail is crucial.
Frankie Boy
25 Dec 2005, 01:32 PM
On a happier note-I am at my inlaws in Mexico this Christmas morning (a nice 75 degree day, BTW)-and on Sky Satellite TV, they have a channel showing nothing but 2002 World Cup games...
The game of the day (in Mexico, no less!!!) is USA-MEX from Korea !!!!!
They are showing it 4TIMES today (12/25!!!)
Of course, I have told my in-laws "Feliz Navidad"!!
This is like showing the 1972 USA/Soviet Union basketball game on ESPN Classic on Christmas in the USA!
Pure torture to the Mexicans, do you think?
Honore de Ballsac
26 Dec 2005, 08:27 PM
Seems to me the aholes as you call them are the ones whose "valid" points are only partial in their descritpion.
Yours was certainly one sided and impartial.
Lap it up. And learn some more English.