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Rewinder
05 Jan 2006, 10:39 AM
Have you ever taken a Conference north/south team to the CL? I've heard of people taking them to the Prem but can't say I remember anybody getting one into europe. The last guy I remember that said he did was found to have cheated. I'd love to see real proof of an original conference south team in the CL...without any cheating of course. That would deserve a http://bestsmileys.com/bowing/1.gif

Is that a challenge? I still have a week before i return to college, so it sounds like an interesting idea. Though you may be right about the problems hardcoded into them. With such tiny stadiums you will never be able to get a decent enough wage budget. Transfer funds wont be so much of a problem as there are alot of good cheap players, and when you develop your reputation you can sign players free on bosmans a lot. If there was a way around the wage budget once you got to the premiership it would be a relatively doable task.

One possibility would be to edit their potential stadium capacity in the editor to about 40000-50000 so when you make it to the big time, you can expand and sustain the kind of team you need. I'd recommend doing this in a group challenge though as it may be ridiculosly easy with a bigger stadium.

Cannon
05 Jan 2006, 11:03 AM
Is that a challenge? I still have a week before i return to college, so it sounds like an interesting idea. Though you may be right about the problems hardcoded into them. With such tiny stadiums you will never be able to get a decent enough wage budget. Transfer funds wont be so much of a problem as there are alot of good cheap players, and when you develop your reputation you can sign players free on bosmans a lot. If there was a way around the wage budget once you got to the premiership it would be a relatively doable task.

One possibility would be to edit their potential stadium capacity in the editor to about 40000-50000 so when you make it to the big time, you can expand and sustain the kind of team you need. I'd recommend doing this in a group challenge though as it may be ridiculosly easy with a bigger stadium.Any editing (or use of scout programs) is cheating in my book so that wouldn't work for me. I know where you're coming from on the stadium max size issue. I've bugged SI people about it for years. My favorite FM club Haarlem has a tiny stadium in the game (smaller than the real one :rolleyes: ) and is a real nightmare to expand. So I get Haarlem into the top Dutch league but have trouble pushing on to win that league and do anything in europe because of the small stadium and finance problems.

I've tried ConfN/S clubs and always jumped boat when I got them to the coke league. My rep is fine then for a club jump and I get sick of dealing with the hardcoded limitations by then. There were some remaining bugs in fm05 that made it even worse. I haven't tried it in Fm06 yet.

Rewinder
05 Jan 2006, 11:13 AM
For the most part I havent encountered any real bugs yet. One change I have noticed though is that there definately is a bigger gap between worldclass players and poor players. When going up against a much better opposition, your players will make a tremendous amount of game costing errors, even when you give them no creative freedom, and all team and player instructions are set to counter that.

I've taken yeovil to the premiership, but as tight as I can keep the game, I can't stop players who are a tier or two below their counterparts from making terrible backpasses, or having central defenders get tangled with the ball for a few seconds, then be tackled and have the opponent go 1 on 1 with my keeper. Its really frustrating, and I'm getting the feeling that teams are given coefficients that determine the outcome of the match moreso than the players and tactics, so even a mediocre squad with poor tactics from a big club will be able to beat a decent team with good tactics from a small club.

michaec
06 Jan 2006, 05:09 AM
I've never taken a Conference South team to the Premiership, let alone the Champions League. However, I play the game a bit more natural than just sticking with the one club. If I get an offer to become manager of a bigger club, I'll usually take it, I'm obviously angling to get my reputation up high enough for Arsenal to offer me the job :D. I might try sticking with the one club one day and see how it goes.

Rewinder
06 Jan 2006, 08:50 AM
A 70 yard goal! Had to save that match. A CL game against Real so it was all the more sweeter.

michaec
09 Jan 2006, 08:58 AM
A 70 yard goal! Had to save that match. A CL game against Real so it was all the more sweeter.
See it is realistic, Alonso scored from about the same distance against Luton on Saturday :D

Cannon
09 Jan 2006, 11:04 AM
See it is realistic, Alonso scored from about the same distance against Luton on Saturday :DYeah that was an exact copy of a goal I scored against Fulham with Wolves a few games back. Keeper caught up field and a long range shot from my half. Nice way to seal the points/advance.

One of my favorite goals was when this slow old keeper took a free kick from right in front of their box. My striker stayed high. The kick is straight at my guy. The ball bounces back past the keeper and slowly rolls into the net as the keeper scrambles to reach it. Too funny.

JoshDB
09 Jan 2006, 07:02 PM
Yeah that was an exact copy of a goal I scored against Fulham with Wolves a few games back. Keeper caught up field and a long range shot from my half. Nice way to seal the points/advance.

One of my favorite goals was when this slow old keeper took a free kick from right in front of their box. My striker stayed high. The kick is straight at my guy. The ball bounces back past the keeper and slowly rolls into the net as the keeper scrambles to reach it. Too funny.

In the World Cup finals, as England and vs. Brazil, Robinson scored the winning goal.

Something like the 80th minute, Robinson has a goal-kick. He takes it long. WAY long. It bounces on the '18 as Dida runs out to get it, over him, and into the goal. Sweet. :D

Bluto11
12 Jan 2006, 04:10 PM
Arsenal unbeaten in 24 matches in all competitions.

I think Reyes is going to be leaving, he's unhappy and whiny, so the first 19 million quid offer I get, he's gone.

Bently is coming back from injury soon and I signed some Belgian dude from Club Brugge who is 24 and pretty good. I think his name is Blondel or something like that. He score twice on his debut!

I was also offered the England job, so now I'm manging Arsenal and England. It's January 2006 (i'm playing WWSM 2005) so i've got the World Cup this summer.

Bluto11
13 Jan 2006, 04:16 PM
no offers for Reyes and only 1 week left in January. I was getting two offers a week when had him set to "reject all offers"!

I also signed Theo Wolcott :)

since he's 16 I got him for 200 quid a week and 600,000 quid to Soton.

Rewinder
16 Jan 2006, 11:09 PM
I thought they got rid of super players in the last 2 games.
Look who I ran into in a friendly against the scousers:

18 years old!
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/236/awright1uw.jpg

Bluto11
19 Jan 2006, 11:04 PM
won the league on the last day of the season. I drew at Bolton and United had to win at Spurs to win the league, but it was a draw so I won by 2 points!

now, the CL final against Real and the FA Cup final against Chelsea await.

Milkman
20 Jan 2006, 09:49 AM
Aren't they releasing this game on XBox 360? I'll be all over it... sounds awesome.

Cannon
20 Jan 2006, 10:21 AM
I got Notts Co promoted to League One and am now well on my way to back to back promotions. Haven't done well in the cups but I did get some cash that helped me buy a few cheap but talented guys.

I'm trying to sign Bergkamp. Arsenal want to sell him for next to nothing but he isn't keen on moving to Notts Co. Tried to loan some Arsenal kids too but they all went to Coke league teams. Oh well.

The best thing I did was sign a striker from a lower division team in Scotland. He has been a goal machine scoring a goal a game in all competitions and accounted for more than half my team's goals. Only bad news is that some bigger clubs are starting to come after him and I've got no reliable replacement.

Toon³
22 Jan 2006, 11:34 AM
An odd league table.

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/9517/fsscr000large1km.th.jpg (http://img235.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fsscr000large1km.jpg)

Boro top of the league?
Newcastle unbeaten and lowest goals conceeded. :confused:

Cannon
22 Jan 2006, 11:43 AM
Yeah FM can give you some funny results.

In my current game, Bolton get relegated the first season. It looks like the stamina issues in FM killed their old boys. Pompey and Everton are doing great and have iron walls for defenses with barely any new players. Liverpool survives a horrible second half of the season slump which took them from CL to just outside relegation and worst of all...Spurs are in the CL. Roma win the CL. Chelski spend another 100m but end in the UEFA Cup spots and win zippy. Lyon are a midtable club and miss out on europe.

Toon³
22 Jan 2006, 12:08 PM
The most recent patch has improved the game alot. Transfers are much better because clubs actually accept bids instead of rejecting them, in the release version there were only about 5 transfers over £5million in the first transfer window.

Mario Eggimann is the best bargin I've found so far.

£65K from Karlsruhe

Bluto11
23 Jan 2006, 12:24 AM
won the World Cup with England.

goal in the 3rd minute of Injury time from little Mikey Owen gave England a 0-1 victory over Brazil!

and I've just pulled a Sven, resigning after I won it all! I'm going to stick with just Arsenal for a little while longer. I was pissed at the National team call up system because 4 players I placed on the WC roster were not there, so I had a very young team!

michaec
24 Jan 2006, 05:47 AM
Started my first full season with Mansfield and we're mid-table after 8 games, in line with the board's expectations. I've just signed some young right winger called Theo Walcott from Southampton on three month's loan, I wonder whether he'll be any good? ;)

My main problem at the moment is that while I seem to have things sorted at the back, my strikers can't score, even though we're creating plenty of chances. It's hard to get a decent striker on Mansfield's budget, a loan signing seems to be my only hope at the moment.

Cannon
24 Jan 2006, 11:39 AM
My main problem at the moment is that while I seem to have things sorted at the back, my strikers can't score, even though we're creating plenty of chances. It's hard to get a decent striker on Mansfield's budget, a loan signing seems to be my only hope at the moment.Like I said earlier, I'd scout Scotland's lower divisions. There are some amazing strikers there that can be had for next to nothing. I bought my best striker (the goal a game guy) for about 5k and not all of that was up front and his wage demands were easily fit into my tiny budget once I dropped/sold the dead weight. There are also always some good (for lower league) strikers without clubs around at the start. In the lower divisions, finishing and heading are key. I find those characteristics way more important than pace until you've gone up a couple of times.

Loans for very decent strikers also work but I'd focus on kids from the Prem or Coke leauge since you'll have trouble getting older guys to join on loan. I've found that the kids from those clubs are usually a better bet than a more experienced striker from League one or two that you could also attract on loan.

In my current game (started in league two), I started with that goal a game Scot (a greater finisher, header, and very strong but slow guy) that I bought and a couple of fast kids strikers on loan from Prem/top Coke league clubs that I rotated with a free transfer old guy that was a jack of all trades forward but not great at any. Ended up getting on average a little more than 2 goals a game which was more than enough since I had by far the best defense/keeper in the league).

Good luck.