Will Kikin fonseca rise up to the challenge?

[Pottermaniac]

It is no ones suprised that the only World class striker that we have is C. Blanco, Borgetti is good, but lets face it, if Blanco hadn't decided to pull a Ronaldo and not go to the confederations cup, Borgetti will still be stucked with pachuca.

another striker that might give a good performance for mexico is franco, but i just wouldn't feel the same if a naturalized player scored the winning goal.

so our faith lies mainly in fonseca, personally i think that once him and blanco team up, he will shine. On the other hand he did not performed at its best in Cruz azul, mainly cause of the high expectations and because chelito delgado outshine him. another reason would be that Hugo was not there with him. :D

so do you think, he will rise up to the challenge?

[Violationgd]

It is no ones suprised that the only World class striker that we have is C. Blanco, Borgetti is good, but lets face it, if Blanco hadn't decided to pull a Ronaldo and not go to the confederations cup, Borgetti will still be stucked with pachuca.

another striker that might give a good performance for mexico is franco, but i just wouldn't feel the same if a naturalized player scored the winning goal.

so our faith lies mainly in fonseca, personally i think that once him and blanco team up, he will shine. On the other hand he did not performed at its best in Cruz azul, mainly cause of the high expectations and because chelito delgado outshine him. another reason would be that Hugo was not there with him. :D

so do you think, he will rise up to the challenge?

dude... i've liked most of your posts, but my dislike of Blanco and that old man's decaying style of play is too much, you can not think that he's better than borgetti is in the form that borgetti is in right now.
But back to the topic, I definitly think fonseca can rise up the challenge. On fifa.com they called him Mexico's Lion. I know it's only their opinion, but they are fifa and they do get paid to analyze soccer, so there has to be at least a little truth in that. He scored against Hungary. He scored against germany. He scored against japan. When it comes down to it, fonseca is pretty damn consistent. I think teams like Iran and Portugal will focus a lot on Borgetti because he plays in Europe, and that will give Fonseca the opportunity to shine, not with Blanco though. I do not think Blanco is much of a team player, especially now. He didn't go to the confederations cup and he's too prideful, you can't do that to El Tri, that's not right, it's not good for team spirit, he's the last thing el tri needs.

[Pottermaniac]

dude... i've liked most of your posts, but my dislike of Blanco and that old man's decaying style of play is too much, you can not think that he's better than borgetti is in the form that borgetti is in right now.
But back to the topic, I definitly think fonseca can rise up the challenge. On fifa.com they called him Mexico's Lion. I know it's only their opinion, but they are fifa and they do get paid to analyze soccer, so there has to be at least a little truth in that. He scored against Hungary. He scored against germany. He scored against japan. When it comes down to it, fonseca is pretty damn consistent. I think teams like Iran and Portugal will focus a lot on Borgetti because he plays in Europe, and that will give Fonseca the opportunity to shine, not with Blanco though. I do not think Blanco is much of a team player, especially now. He didn't go to the confederations cup and he's too prideful, you can't do that to El Tri, that's not right, it's not good for team spirit, he's the last thing el tri needs.

thanks for your comment about my posts, i'm flattered ;)

but back to the topic, remind me again, who was the one that too Mexico to the world cup '02, when we were close to missing out? and yes i now aguirre had a big part in it, but lets face it, Blanco pulled all the weight he might not be as good as he was 4 years ago the same way that 4 years ago we didn't had the good team we have now, but Blanco can still contribute. ALOT.
lets not forget that in 2004 he singlely took a crappy team like Veracruz into being the super leader and on his return to america he became champion.

[Milosartisian]

dude... i've liked most of your posts, but my dislike of Blanco and that old man's decaying style of play is too much, you can not think that he's better than borgetti is in the form that borgetti is in right now.
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Cuauh is the best mexican player, period. He is actually playing better now than 4 years ago. In the 2002 cup he was one year out his injury, an he was still a little bit slow.
But even if you dislike Temoc you have to recgnize that he is a genius with the ball, if some plays that he does would have been done by an Argentinean or a Brazilean you would have tons of videos floating around comparing him with some legends.

I ould have to add that he plays very well with the green one, just unlike Hugo Sanchez.

Just forget about his personalty and focus in his game. It is like when people compare Pele with Maradona and say "well Maradona was probably better, but he was a junky, so I pick Pele as the best player ever", what kinf od logic is that ???

[Pottermaniac]

Cuauh is the best mexican player, period. He is actually playing better now than 4 years ago. In the 2002 cup he was one year out his injury, an he was still a little bit slow.
But even if you dislike Temoc you have to recgnize that he is a genius with the ball, if some plays that he does would have been done by an Argentinean or a Brazilean you would have tons of videos floating around comparing him with some legends.

I ould have to add that he plays very well with the green one, just unlike Hugo Sanchez.

Just forget about his personalty and focus in his game. It is like when people compare Pele with Maradona and say "well Maradona was probably better, but he was a junky, so I pick Pele as the best player ever", what kinf od logic is that ???

Maradona was in speed, that's why he played so well. but then again, there was no doping tests back in pele's time. :D

[El Guero Naco]

All I remember is two years ago how everybody was wondering who would accompany Jared up front. Kikin has won that spot. Thankfully it wasn't Bofo or Omar Bravo.

Kikin is the man. He had a good Confederations Cup with a goal against Japan, and he's now the future of Mexican strikers. This will be his opportunity to shine in front of the world.

[Violationgd]

Have you seen America's line-up? You can't simply contribute their championship to blanco, even i could look good on that team. it's easy to look super when your teammates are super. i'm not denying he's a good player, but i do doubt his team ethic. he was tryin to negotiate with the national team and players shouldn't do that. i know he's cocky, but come on, that's a bad thing for the team cohesiveness and i'm going to stand by that. your right though, he was damn good 4 hours ago, but that was a long time ago. Now the Mexican National team is better, so he'll fade away among them. Personally, i think someone faster is needed at the attacking mid. position. but i'm glad we all agree Kikin will come up big next summer.

[Solid444]

Blanco is the second best Mexican player, period (After Marquez)! All the people undermining his skill need to be slapped some sense. Cuau might hurt the national team with his presence? Are you crazy? He has played two world cups and the last thing he has done for the team is hurt it. He had the same attitude then (maybe worse) than he does now. We have sh1t like Zinha, Chato and Israel playing on El Tri and all i hear is "Blanco can hurt the team, Blanco doesnt have it anymore". Give me a break. In the last year and a half, He single handedly took Veracruz to the best record, won the Championship with America and lead the way to the best undefeated streak in the history of Mexican futbol. And people still have the nerve to come in here and question his ability. wow, the ignorance

[Violationgd]

Blanco is the second best Mexican player, period (After Marquez)! All the people undermining his skill need to be slapped some sense. Cuau might hurt the national team with his presence? Are you crazy? He has played two world cups and the last thing he has done for the team is hurt it. He had the same attitude then (maybe worse) than he does now. We have sh1t like Zinha, Chato and Israel playing on El Tri and all i hear is "Blanco can hurt the team, Blanco doesnt have it anymore". Give me a break. In the last year and a half, He single handedly took Veracruz to the best record, won the Championship with America and lead the way to the best undefeated streak in the history of Mexican futbol. And people still have the nerve to come in here and question his ability. wow, the ignorance

whatever, veracruz and america were hardly single handed efforts. Like i said before though, America has a damn good line-up, to say it was Blanco alone is ridiculous and quite frankly, that right there is the ignorance. Besides, club play is vastly differently than international play. I donno if his attitude then or now is worse, but the big difference between now and then is not if he is worse, but the fact that lavolpe is coach and they hate each other and that will come through in training and consequently in games. You can call this ignorance if you want, but i prefer to think of it as observations and analysis that you have yet to consider. consider how el tri will play with a subordinate Blanco in practice. haven't thought about that? wow, the ignorance...

[Violationgd]

All I remember is two years ago how everybody was wondering who would accompany Jared up front. Kikin has won that spot. Thankfully it wasn't Bofo or Omar Bravo.

Kikin is the man. He had a good Confederations Cup with a goal against Japan, and he's now the future of Mexican strikers. This will be his opportunity to shine in front of the world.

My bad for getting off topic... no more of that for me, but yea Kikin has won that spot, at least i hope he has. His performance at confed cup was solid. But i think Omar bravo would be good off the bench, mainly for his speed. I think that lavolpe is probably looking for second string forwards right now, to give mexico some depth, unfortunately though, none of the forwards except for kikin did much against Hungry... So i guess he'll have to keep looking

[Pottermaniac]

whatever, veracruz and america were hardly single handed efforts. Like i said before though, America has a damn good line-up, to say it was Blanco alone is ridiculous and quite frankly, that right there is the ignorance. Besides, club play is vastly differently than international play. I donno if his attitude then or now is worse, but the big difference between now and then is not if he is worse, but the fact that lavolpe is coach and they hate each other and that will come through in training and consequently in games. You can call this ignorance if you want, but i prefer to think of it as observations and analysis that you have yet to consider. consider how el tri will play with a subordinate Blanco in practice. haven't thought about that? wow, the ignorance...

Please tell me, who was Veracruz before and after Blanco was there?

[El Guero Naco]

Eh, Lavolpe seems that his mind is made up and will take Alberto Medina as a backup striker, I don't see Bravo being picked. He'll probably even throw Guille Franco on there as the 4th striker just to piss everyone off.

Remember people, it's not Blanco's decision or not whether to be there. It's all going to come down to if Lavolpe has the huevos to call him up or not.

[jmarquez1976]

I think you guys are missing LaVolpe's A-style, here are the choices for next summer:

CF: Borgetti or Kikin

2nd FW: Kikin, Bravo, Medina, Cabrito, R Morales, Guardado (depends on the matchups on the wings)

#10: Temoc, Bofo or Franco

[Milosartisian]

whatever, veracruz and america were hardly single handed efforts. Like i said before though, America has a damn good line-up, to say it was Blanco alone is ridiculous and quite frankly, that right there is the ignorance. Besides, club play is vastly differently than international play. I donno if his attitude then or now is worse, but the big difference between now and then is not if he is worse, but the fact that lavolpe is coach and they hate each other and that will come through in training and consequently in games. You can call this ignorance if you want, but i prefer to think of it as observations and analysis that you have yet to consider. consider how el tri will play with a subordinate Blanco in practice. haven't thought about that? wow, the ignorance...

Dude, America has always been filled with stars and nothing happened. Cuau is playing his tops (as a creative), before the 2002 he was more of an striker.

[Milosartisian]

Blanco is the second best Mexican player, period (After Marquez)!

mhh, I don't know. Frankly Marquez is not a trigger for changing the outcome of a game. I don't blame Marquez, in his position is very tough to be the most decisive player in a team, that's why when you talk about the best players in the history you always end up talking about creative guys and sometimes scorers.

Also I would add that Marquez maturity level is not there yet, we criticize Temoc for his attitude, but he doesn't gets expelled anymore. Marquez, on the other hand, keeps receiving red cards in important games. Just food for thought

[Violationgd]

Please tell me, who was Veracruz before and after Blanco was there?

who was veracruz before and after kleber was there? i'm not saying it was kleber, but i'm just trying to show that same silly argument could be made in his name instead of blanco's

[El Yucateco]

Have you seen America's line-up? You can't simply contribute their championship to blanco, even i could look good on that team. it's easy to look super when your teammates are super. i'm not denying he's a good player, but i do doubt his team ethic. he was tryin to negotiate with the national team and players shouldn't do that. i know he's cocky, but come on, that's a bad thing for the team cohesiveness and i'm going to stand by that. your right though, he was damn good 4 hours ago, but that was a long time ago. Now the Mexican National team is better, so he'll fade away among them. Personally, i think someone faster is needed at the attacking mid. position. but i'm glad we all agree Kikin will come up big next summer.

Did you actually watch America's games though? Everything on the offensive side of the ball starts with or goes through blanco. Yes, with Piojo Lopez and Kleber, Blanco has some very good teammates, but it is most often blanco that creates the most dangerous chances to score for the team.

[Pottermaniac]

who was veracruz before and after kleber was there? i'm not saying it was kleber, but i'm just trying to show that same silly argument could be made in his name instead of blanco's

everybody knows that it was blanco who lead veracruz to the liguilla, if pumas hadn't been in their way and the directiva hand't dont so much stupid sh1t, they would have won the championship.

[Violationgd]

Look guys, this is quickly becoming me against the world. Honestly, I am stubborn, i have watched the games, and yes i think he's good. But if you go back and read some of the posts i have put up, one of the big points i've been making is that he and lavople do not get along and that will affect the team. aside from the fact that he is old, his relationship with lavolpe will be more thanenough to hurt el tri. Honestly, i think we should stop this argument though, because i will never be convinced that Blanco should be on el tri, and unfortunately for all of you guys, the coach (the person whose opinion matters) probably feels the same way. This thread is about whether or not kikin will step, so it's futile to argue with me, because A) you'll never convince me otherwise, and B) even if you did convince me, it won't matter cuz Blanco still won't get called to el tri...

Kikin will though, so let's talk about how good he is and how many goals he'll score against portugal after everyone tries to shut down borgetti

[Pottermaniac]

Look guys, this is quickly becoming me against the world. Honestly, I am stubborn, i have watched the games, and yes i think he's good. But if you go back and read some of the posts i have put up, one of the big points i've been making is that he and lavople do not get along and that will affect the team. aside from the fact that he is old, his relationship with lavolpe will be more thanenough to hurt el tri. Honestly, i think we should stop this argument though, because i will never be convinced that Blanco should be on el tri, and unfortunately for all of you guys, the coach (the person whose opinion matters) probably feels the same way. This thread is about whether or not kikin will step, so it's futile to argue with me, because A) you'll never convince me otherwise, and B) even if you did convince me, it won't matter cuz Blanco still won't get called to el tri...

Kikin will though, so let's talk about how good he is and how many goals he'll score against portugal after everyone tries to shut down borgetti

Lavolpe has made it clear that he will be called up. :D