Defoe is Better the Owen

[Neo¹]

And shoud partner Rooney for England at the World Cup.

Discuss...

[OrlandoSPUR]

I'm a bit bias so what do you think Neo?

Especially considering something I read about you wanting Defoe in a gooner shirt :p So I suppose you have a similar opinion on Defoe as I do. I reckon he will start to go on a bit of a run after his goal against Pompey. And even if the Arse* wanted him I doubt Levy and Jol would ever do that.

..its obvious Defoe is better, Owen needs a couple of new hamstrings for Christmas :D

[Colm]

And shoud partner Rooney for England at the World Cup.

Discuss...I'm a spurs fan and he's not better than Owen. Owen record of international and club speaks for itself. Owen is a certain starter, you'd be a mug to drop him.

[shazfazam]

yeah maybe. but its def seems that sven has his favorites and Owen is def one of them.

On the domestic scene, currently its hard to say who's better cause Owen has been out injured and Defoe hasnt scored very much.

but on the international seen i'll still give Owen the nod only cause of those 2 goals against argentina, that pretty much sealed his ticket to Germany :)

[michaec]

And shoud partner Rooney for England at the World Cup.

Discuss...What have you been smoking Neo? Defoe can't get into the Spurs team ahead of Robbie Keane at the moment and Owen is in a completely different league to both of them.

[Matt Clark]

This again, eh?

Let's all not be silly. Defoe needs to get a regular game at club level, prove he's worth it for a season or three and then we can sit down and talk about whether or not he's worthy of being on the same team bus as Owen. Who knows - in another seven or eight years, when Owen is reaching his mid-Thirties, there might even be cause to consider swapping them in the England starting line-up.

[tino11]

I always find it strange why they let people in asylums use the internet given how much dangerous stuff there is out there :rolleyes: Defoe better than Owen???? WTF??? Would Dafoe have scored both of Owen's extremely good finished against Argentina (given that Owen did nowt for 88 minutes), lest not forget he also had one disallowed early on!! I think not. On current form and in the getting games stakes, Bobby Zamora would be in the squad ahead of Dafoe!! Happy Christmas ;)

[Charlie Beagle]

I have a beagle named Charlie

[sendorange]

At domestic level I would take Defoe, far less injury prone and more capable of scoring goals out of nothing, which you need these days against the 4-5-1 physical hacking teams.

At International level I would take Owen, his record speaks for itself. World class goalscorer who can put them away against anybody, whether its a minnow or the world's best.

[tino11]

At domestic level I would take Defoe, far less injury prone and more capable of scoring goals out of nothing, which you need these days against the 4-5-1 physical hacking teams.

At International level I would take Owen, his record speaks for itself. World class goalscorer who can put them away against anybody, whether its a minnow or the world's best.

I'm confused :(

[Matt Clark]

more capable of scoring goals out of nothing,

LOL! Come on ... I mean, seriously.

[sendorange]

LOL! Come on ... I mean, seriously.
I am completely serious. Owen in the old days could do it, but I have certainly not seen him in some time go on a run from outside the area, beating two or three defenders and then putting it in. Or going on a run from the halfway line and smacking one in from 25 yards.

Still a great poacher of goals and now a very good header of the ball as well, but not an explosive player who can do it all on his own.

[tino11]

I am completely serious. Owen in the old days could do it, but I have certainly not seen him in some time go on a run from outside the area, beating two or three defenders and then putting it in. Or going on a run from the halfway line and smacking one in from 25 yards.

Still a great poacher of goals and now a very good header of the ball as well, but no longer an explosive player.

We will see. He has a far better temprement than Rooney, and I genuinely think he may be the star of the WC.

[Matt Clark]

I have certainly not seen him in some time go on a run from outside the area, beating two or three defenders and then putting it in. Or going on a run from the halfway line and smacking one in from 25 yards.

He never did that anyway. Any goals from deep were chasing down balls over the top and beating defenders for pace.

That's not "creating goals out of nothing". Creating goals out of nothing is the sort of thing he did against West Brom, that sort of instinctive flicked finish that would not even occur to other players, Defoe included.

Beyond that, there's little or no scope for arguing that Defoe is all that hot at doing what you're talking about either.

[sendorange]

He never did that anyway. Any goals from deep were chasing down balls over the top and beating defenders for pace.

That's not "creating goals out of nothing". Creating goals out of nothing is the sort of thing he did against West Brom, that sort of instinctive flicked finish that would not even occur to other players, Defoe included.

Beyond that, there's little or no scope for arguing that Defoe is all that hot at doing what you're talking about either.
Yes there is scope, although not when you are blinkered or have seen little of Defoe. His goal against Middlesborough earlier on this season, even his goal against Portsmouth on monday was a classic example of a forward with the ability to produce a quality goal when it looks like the chance has ended or there's nothing on.

As for that flicked finish, good goal but nothing all that special about it, especially as he was only 6 yards out. Even Crouch would have buried it.

[tino11]

Yes there is scope, although not when you are blinkered or have seen little of Defoe. His goal against Middlesborough earlier on this season, even his goal against Portsmouth on monday was a classic example of a forward with the ability to produce a quality goal when it looks like the chance has ended or there's nothing on.

As for that flicked finish, good goal but nothing all that special about it, especially as he was only 6 yards out. Even Crouch would have buried it.

This really does not do your argument any favours ;)

[Toon³]

Yes there is scope, although not when you are blinkered or have seen little of Defoe. His goal against Middlesborough earlier on this season, even his goal against Portsmouth on monday was a classic example of a forward with the ability to produce a quality goal when it looks like the chance has ended or there's nothing on.

As for that flicked finish, good goal but nothing all that special about it, especially as he was only 6 yards out. Even Crouch would have buried it.

Lets not go nuts.

[Matt Clark]

Yes there is scope, although not when you are blinkered or have seen little of Defoe. His goal against Middlesborough earlier on this season, even his goal against Portsmouth on monday was a classic example of a forward with the ability to produce a quality goal when it looks like the chance has ended or there's nothing on.

As for that flicked finish, good goal but nothing all that special about it, especially as he was only 6 yards out. Even Crouch would have buried it.

Oh do come on ... I mean, I know the "Player X, when you think about it and twist your little melon into a thousand painful contortions, is better than Owen" game is an enduringly popular one, but must we really?

There's fewer than 10 players in the world that can score the sort of goals Owen scores - and Defoe's not one of them. Nor is he ever likely to be.

[The Double]

This again, eh?

Let's all not be silly. Defoe needs to get a regular game at club level, prove he's worth it for a season or three and then we can sit down and talk about whether or not he's worthy of being on the same team bus as Owen. Who knows - in another seven or eight years, when Owen is reaching his mid-Thirties, there might even be cause to consider swapping them in the England starting line-up.

You're just a racist. A dirty, Liverpudlian racist.

;) :D

I love Jermain, I do, but he doesn't have the goalscoring ability that Owen has on the international level (yet.)

[musicl]

Owen is better.