Did I crack it?

[Wizhawk]

Go back and look at the numbers. A lot are chronological, but quite a few aren't. There are random 2s, 3s, and 8s mixed around.

[MinnesotaScouser]

I am not sure that those numbers are chronological. I have a receipt #84xx and my UPS was accepted at 7:21 AM.
What category tickets did you request?

[Palermo10]

There certainly is a pattern with the first digit of these numbers, but there is something up with the second number. It almost always is 0,1,2, or 3. Ocassional 5 but never higher. I don't think there are 8000 applications or tickets requested. I wonder if this digit represent what category you requested, I,II,III, or IV. And maybe 0 is if you agreed to take tickets in any category. Also, I wonder if your request for Sam's Army seating is somehow worked into the number. Who knows? Let's hope we're in the 800's and not the 8000's.


Very interesting.

I requested category 3 but I did in fact check the box for Sams Army, as well as I would take tickets in any category.

Most of the people on here seemed to have 0 as the 2nd, but some people had 85xx... so what would 5 be? :confused:

[asdf2]

I am not sure that those numbers are chronological. I have a receipt #84xx and my UPS was accepted at 7:21 AM.

I think there is some randomness in this. They probably hired some temps to key this stuff so it's not some perfect process.

[asdf2]

That post is as follows (sic):

Game .......Stadium Total...8% Available....Minus 500 Big Wigs and Sponsers
Chexico............43920...............3 514.............3014
Italy................37084.............. .2967.............2467
Ghana..............32341...............2 587.............2087
Rd 16 Winner.....36392...............2911..... ........2411
Rd 16 2nd Place..50276..............4022.......... ...3522


So if Palermo broke the code right, and you are #8500 it just depend on how many of the 7500 ticket requests in front of you are for the 2nd round through the finals. I'm guessing what, about 20%-30% of the requests are for later rounds?!?

There seem to be 9000 tickets available for the 1st round less Big Wigs. That Big Wig # seems to be a wild ass guess. Could be more. Could be less.

Also, are they charging credit cards? If not, than some orders, 10% or whatever (maybe less), will get rejected at that time.

Also there will be some fall out from people who didn't check the box to get any category of tickets that were available.

By the way, I hope they upsell us if we did check this box. For example if you requested cat 3 as I did they'd give me cat 1 or cat 2 if 3 is not available, even though it cost more.

[asdf2]

Look at the few (9) 3rd digits. They are weird too. All low #'s. Specifically:

0 - two
1 - three
2 - one
3 - one
4 - one
5 - one
6 - none
7 - none
8 - none
9 - none

[asdf2]

Also, check out the gap between these 2 data points:

# 61xx faxed at 11 p.m. CT, Monday
# 81xx sent via Fedex, arrived about 7am Tuesday

You think they sold 2000 tickets overnight? Possible in theory, if each order was 10-20 tickets that would be 100-200 faxes or say approx 20 per hour. That actually makes since.

But the fax was down that night or at least I was getting error messages, not a busy signal.

Man I'm just hoping my fax got through. They better not have been out of paper! They also better not punish me for getting one fax through and one DHL in.

[Ricky_DCU]

Do you think every soccer federation only gets 8% at each stadium?

According to FIFA, each fed gets 8% of the tickets to each of their matches. However, there have been reports in the British media that England will get an opportunity for additional tickets for the Trinidad and Paraguay matches as those two countries are not expected to sell their full allocation of tickets. So we might get more than 8% for the Ghana match- I'm sure the Czechs and Italians will use their full allocation.


By the way, I hope they upsell us if we did check this box. For example if you requested cat 3 as I did they'd give me cat 1 or cat 2 if 3 is not available, even though it cost more.

I'm pretty sure that's exactly what checking that box means- it means you'd be willing to get tickets in another category if your first preference is sold out; it doesn't matter if it would be cheaper or more expensive. At least that's how FIFA has been explaining it for their ticket sales.

[Ricky_DCU]

Man I'm just hoping my fax got through. They better not have been out of paper! They also better not punish me for getting one fax through and one DHL in.

According to another post on one of these threads, the faxes were being accepted via computer, so running out of paper wasn't a concern (i.e. even if it ran out of paper the computer still received and saved the fax).

As far as both faxing your order and shipping it, the instructions explicitly said that customers doing that risked either having both orders cancelled and thus getting no tickets, or being charged twice for duplicate orders. However, from what others have posted, it appears the USSF is letting this slide as long as it is clear to them that the duplicate order was sent because the customer was uncertain that their first order had been received.

[SnakeEyes]

Than what you are saying is that with a confirmation # of 8000, figuring the average person applied to 4 games (just a guess), is that you and your 3 buddies are approx #2000 on the pecking order.

That is not good news for someone like me who got a fax in mid-day Tuesday and a DHL in at 1028am Wednesday (signed by S.Polk) and has no confirm # yet. I'm screwed right? Because there are only 8% of the tickets allocated to the US for those matches and that means 8% x 41,000(?) average attendance is only approx 2400 tickets per game.

This means that depending on the stadium sizes for the 1st 2 games, and except for the US/Ghana game, which I'm thinking won't even sell out, this means I'm screwed, right???

It's late so I might not have read correctly but I think you are misunderstading a bit. An 8000 confirmation number could mean eight thousand tickets requested total. Not 8000 tickets for each game. For instance person one asks for four tickets to the first three games. That makes confirmation number 1012. Next person orders the same. Their confirmation number is 1024. That's 24 tickets, but only a total of 8 are for each match. Add a hundred more customers and you have confirmation number 2224 but only 424 tickets for the first match. Dramatic jump in confirmation number but not in numbers of tickets. And this only takes into account first round games not the conditional tickets others can/will request that will add to the confirmation number but not the tickets sold each match.

[Palermo10]

It's late so I might not have read correctly but I think you are misunderstading a bit. An 8000 confirmation number could mean eight thousand tickets requested total. Not 8000 tickets for each game. For instance person one asks for four tickets to the first three games. That makes confirmation number 1012. Next person orders the same. Their confirmation number is 1024. That's 24 tickets, but only a total of 8 are for each match. Add a hundred more customers and you have confirmation number 2224 but only 424 tickets for the first match. Dramatic jump in confirmation number but not in numbers of tickets. And this only takes into account first round games not the conditional tickets others can/will request that will add to the confirmation number but not the tickets sold each match.


You explained my theory better than I did.

[Palermo10]

If we want to work out averages, I'd say each applicant had maybe 3 tickets requested to each of the first round games. That would be 9 tickets per application. If there were 7000 tickets requested in the phase, that comes out to about...

2,333 tickets per match.



Therefore, I don't think anybody below 8500 should worry.

Those with numbers close to 10000 should start to be nervous, when the ticket total reaches 3,000,as that is about the average allocation we will be getting. (assuming we started at 1000 - which makes sense as the essential limit on tickets would be an approximate total of 10,000 for the first round)

[asdf2]

I understand the match despite my confusing late night posts. Oh and did I mention MLS just moved my club team to fxxxcking HOUSTON!

My # is going to be higher than 8,500 and likely higher than 10,000. But I'm thinking your theory (I'm hoping) is wrong since the 2nd and 3rd digits are all low #s.

[Palermo10]

I understand the match despite my confusing late night posts. Oh and did I mention MLS just moved my club team to fxxxcking HOUSTON!


Is that confirmed just now?

[Wizhawk]

The theory could be correct, just not to the scale Palermo thought if all the 2nd digits are low #s. The first number might signify the hundreds place, the 2nd # some sort of classification, and the last two numbers the part of the whole number. For example, 9245 might mean that is the 945 ticket requested and it is requested for Sam's Army category III and is flexible for Category.
I have nothing to base this on and no reason to believe it is true. Just a shot in the dark.

[Monarch Bay Beachbum]

What category tickets did you request?


Category one but will accept any others. For Italy, Ghana, Round of 16 and the Quarter-finals.

[taylor]

As much as I want to believe it, there is just no way that can be the case.

That would mean, USSF would have to process ticket orders of 8500 tickets in little less than two days.

I just don't have confidence that they are capable of sending out confirmation numbers in such a "sofistifacted" way.

No way.

[JBigjake]

Palermo: I'm emailing you my confirmation #, with info on # of tickets & matches sought. See how it fits into your calculations. IMO, others should do the same, if they want to help him out with the research.
I still think that these confirm #s are some sort of system, representing far less than 8,000 ticket seekers or even 8,000 tickets sought for all matches. I haven't seen any 70##s yet, so there's a gap. With the lack of 16##s and 38##s, there are probably other gaps. My dream is that everyone gets tickets! Think happy thoughts!