According to Amy at US Soccer

[JBigjake]

... Are you really suggesting that because I didn't have the means or time to attend qualifiers that now I should step aside for others? You are being an elitist snob and no, I won't excuse you... piss off and I don't give a rats ass if you get a ticket or not.
I read through post #100 before replying to this post #64, so I've also seen post #84.. Obviously, I've touched a nerve with you & some others. I've also seen some intelligent suggestions, especially the comments on season tickets, which Mike Lastort started in jest. But frankly, that's my point.
I have season tickets for teams in three sports. It would be four if I had more money. I would be willing to buy season tickets for the USMNT, moreso if it was a partial package, i.e. 6 games, to reserve my place for WC tickets.
I've been a NY Giants fan since 1963; I can't get season tickets. If they "qualify" for the playoffs this year, should those tickets be sold in a lottery? First come, first serve, based on faxes to some # in Chicago? Should Super Bowl tickets be sold in the same manner?
If one of the teams for which I hold season tickets "qualifies" for the playoffs, should I be happy to see those tickets sold via lottery or lucky fax to people who have never attended a single game? But they're planning to visit friends too! I can't be "elitist" about this!
For those who question the English FA's preference system, read the new Wembley plan below. People can buy a seat license & are required to buy a dozen tickets annually, which includes National team games, the FA Cup final & both semi-finals & even rugby.
I hope that everyone who wants USMNT tickets for the World Cup gets them, even you. If I don't get them, I'm going anyway & will scalp them. If you're there, maybe we'll meet & talk further. You don't have to agree with my position, but you should respect the fact that others hold opinions different than yours, and those people are "good fans", too.
http://worldsoccer.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.wembleystadium.com
Seat license approx. $6,700; Season ticket approx. $2,300 for 12 events.

[MikeLastort2]

My wife and I went to about a half dozen qualifiers during 2000 and 2001 because we knew we weren't going to Japorea. We only went to two this time around because we are going to go to Germany and wanted to save up travel money for that trip.

I guess I better contact USSF and tell them to remove my application from consideration since we didn't attend enough US games this time around.

:rolleyes:

[Bill63]

I read through post #100 before replying to this post #64, so I've also seen post #84.. Obviously, I've touched a nerve with you & some others. I've also seen some intelligent suggestions, especially the comments on season tickets, which Mike Lastort started in jest. But frankly, that's my point.
I have season tickets for teams in three sports. It would be four if I had more money. I would be willing to buy season tickets for the USMNT, moreso if it was a partial package, i.e. 6 games, to reserve my place for WC tickets.
I've been a NY Giants fan since 1963; I can't get season tickets. If they "qualify" for the playoffs this year, should those tickets be sold in a lottery? First come, first serve, based on faxes to some # in Chicago? Should Super Bowl tickets be sold in the same manner?
If one of the teams for which I hold season tickets "qualifies" for the playoffs, should I be happy to see those tickets sold via lottery or lucky fax to people who have never attended a single game? But they're planning to visit friends too! I can't be "elitist" about this!
For those who question the English FA's preference system, read the new Wembley plan below. People can buy a seat license & are required to buy a dozen tickets annually, which includes National team games, the FA Cup final & both semi-finals & even rugby.
I hope that everyone who wants USMNT tickets for the World Cup gets them, even you. If I don't get them, I'm going anyway & will scalp them. If you're there, maybe we'll meet & talk further. You don't have to agree with my position, but you should respect the fact that others hold opinions different than yours, and those people are "good fans", too.
http://worldsoccer.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.wembleystadium.com
Seat license approx. $6,700; Season ticket approx. $2,300 for 12 events.


I see your point Jake and I wouldn't like it if I got cut out as you illustrate, but with your option, I'd spend each year trying to scalp tickets. In a small country, I'd be with you. I don't see how we could make it work here. It would be great if I lived in LA or Boston, but what percentage of games get South? It's not high per year. Travel makes your idea problematic. But I see your point. I would agree with the pecking order if: we really had a manner of establishing attendance(which is impossible), and we had a clearing house that gauranteed I could unload those tix I couldn't use because the game is on the other coast or up North

[roadkit]

I read through post #100 before replying to this post #64, so I've also seen post #84.. Obviously, I've touched a nerve with you & some others. I've also seen some intelligent suggestions, especially the comments on season tickets, which Mike Lastort started in jest. But frankly, that's my point.
I have season tickets for teams in three sports. It would be four if I had more money. I would be willing to buy season tickets for the USMNT, moreso if it was a partial package, i.e. 6 games, to reserve my place for WC tickets.
I've been a NY Giants fan since 1963; I can't get season tickets. If they "qualify" for the playoffs this year, should those tickets be sold in a lottery? First come, first serve, based on faxes to some # in Chicago? Should Super Bowl tickets be sold in the same manner?
If one of the teams for which I hold season tickets "qualifies" for the playoffs, should I be happy to see those tickets sold via lottery or lucky fax to people who have never attended a single game? But they're planning to visit friends too! I can't be "elitist" about this!
For those who question the English FA's preference system, read the new Wembley plan below. People can buy a seat license & are required to buy a dozen tickets annually, which includes National team games, the FA Cup final & both semi-finals & even rugby.
I hope that everyone who wants USMNT tickets for the World Cup gets them, even you. If I don't get them, I'm going anyway & will scalp them. If you're there, maybe we'll meet & talk further. You don't have to agree with my position, but you should respect the fact that others hold opinions different than yours, and those people are "good fans", too.
http://worldsoccer.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.wembleystadium.com
Seat license approx. $6,700; Season ticket approx. $2,300 for 12 events.

I wouldn't be averse to some sort of season ticket arrangement for USSF, although I probably wouldn't buy one - my work schedule just does not permit me to attend that many games. My soccer fix is primarily through watching DC at RFK. However, I do donate money every year to the USSF. I'm not stating that to tell you how great I am, but I contribute to several groups a year, both because I believe in what they do and I can use the tax deduction, so it's not a completely altruistic endevour. ;) But I would submit that dollar for dollar they get more from my charitable contribution that they would get for a similar amount spent on tickets.

Anyway, my point is there are lots of ways to support the USSF and MNT, besides going to games although that is the preferred method from a fan's standpoint.

So if there was a scheme to provide supporters a preference (beyond the one you get for logging into USSF), then it should apply equally to the various types of support that the USSF gets.

But I still think it should just be first come, first served, and you can all just get in line behind me. :D

[apog]

Hi. A couple of comments regarding short term and long term. Regarding the WC 06, the ticket rules don't include
previous MNT ticket purchase / attendance history as a factor for obtaining tickets. From a fairness perspective
regarding this particular event, I'd be upset if any of the ticket allocation rules (ie first come, first served) are changed
after the process has begun.

Regarding events in the future, it would be fine by me if the USSF decides to issue some sort of 'season' ticket to MNT
events and uses that as a factor in future WC ticketing. It would be even better if there was some magical means to
give precedence to those who actually attended events (as opposed to just buying a ticket). I'm on board with the
big picture that it would be cool to reward the hard core fans. If I were one, I think I'd be lobbying hard with the USSF to
see if something could be done in the future.

[NASL Fan]

How about this loyalty "test"? Answer five or more affirmative, and you get to go to the head of the tickets line ;)

1. Have you ever crossed state lines to see the US National team play?

2. Have you ever worn a hopelessly outdated US nats replica jersey, such as the infamous candy stripes of the 94 WC?

3. Do you weep tears of nostalgic joy when you remember the first time you saw the Nats beat Mexico?

4. Can you recite, as if it were yesterday, where you were when Brian McBride headed in the third against Portugal in 2002?

5. Do you troll the internet more than five hours a week at obscure websites such as BigSoccer.com in search of news of potential or current nats playing in the English lower divisions?

6. Can you name ten current or former members of the US National team who have at one time or the other plied their trade in Germany?

7. Have you ever watched a US nats game narrated entirely in Spanish because there was no English language broadcast available?

8. Can you recite at least one malapropism uttered by Ty Keough or some other ESPN/ABC soccer color man?

9. Have you ever attended a US nats game at Cal State Fullerton's Titan Stadium or some other obscure college venue, or attended a practice?

10. Can you name at least two teams against which Jovan Kirovski scored a goal for the nats?

I score 9 out of 10.

Tickets please! ;)

[Adam Zebrowski]

does the yale bowl count as an obscure venue..

or new britian...

if so, I'm a 10...

[FC Tallavana]

How about this loyalty "test"? Answer five or more affirmative, and you get to go to the head of the tickets line ;)

1. Have you ever crossed state lines to see the US National team play?

2. Have you ever worn a hopelessly outdated US nats replica jersey, such as the infamous candy stripes of the 94 WC?

3. Do you weep tears of nostalgic joy when you remember the first time you saw the Nats beat Mexico?

4. Can you recite, as if it were yesterday, where you were when Brian McBride headed in the third against Portugal in 2002?

5. Do you troll the internet more than five hours a week at obscure websites such as BigSoccer.com in search of news of potential or current nats playing in the English lower divisions?

6. Can you name ten current or former members of the US National team who have at one time or the other plied their trade in Germany?

7. Have you ever watched a US nats game narrated entirely in Spanish because there was no English language broadcast available?

8. Can you recite at least one malapropism uttered by Ty Keough or some other ESPN/ABC soccer color man?

9. Have you ever attended a US nats game at Cal State Fullerton's Titan Stadium or some other obscure college venue, or attended a practice?

10. Can you name at least two teams against which Jovan Kirovski scored a goal for the nats?

I score 9 out of 10.

Tickets please! ;)

1. Yes
2. No - No jerseys in my closet...I'm a t-shirt guy.
3. No - Not much for crying. I prefer to use my inner monologue.
4. Yes
5. Yes
6. Yes
7. Yes
8. Yes
9. Yes
10. Yes

[JBigjake]

I guess I better contact USSF and tell them to remove my application from consideration since we didn't attend enough US games this time around.
I'm forwarding this excerpt to Amy!
OTOH, much like FIFA, we could base your ranking, in part, on performances in past World Cups. A weighing system is being devised! Just don't be surprised if some Mexican is in front of you!

[nowherenova]

9 out of 10 here. Although if you've seen Legion Field lately, that may count as an "obscure college venue", so I might be 10 for 10. I was at the game in Jax when he scored against Deutschland. Sweet shot from downtown!

[FC Tallavana]

If drunks from Leeds want to keep new fans away from the English national team, then we should definitely take a page from his book and keep new fans away from the US national team.



Look, it's pretty simple. If people want to pay the money and come to ANY US game, they should be able to. Regardless of who was there before them. What some of you are proposing is a system that would only let new fans go to games when old ones die off or something. It's ludicrous.

We obviously just disagree.

[JBigjake]

1. My soccer fix is primarily through watching DC at RFK.
2. I do donate money every year to the USSF.
3.But I still think it should just be first come, first served, and you can all just get in line behind me. :D
1. You have my sympathy!
2. Bless you, my son.
3. Bastard!

[FC Tallavana]

9 out of 10 here. Although if you've seen Legion Field lately, that may count as an "obscure college venue", so I might be 10 for 10. I was at the game in Jax when he scored against Deutschland. Sweet shot from downtown!

Jacksonville is home to three college football games per year (FL/GA-ACCCHAMP-GATORBOWL) so it might just count. ;)

[JBigjake]

1. From a fairness perspective regarding this particular event, I'd be upset if any of the ticket allocation rules (ie first come, first served) are changed after the process has begun...

2. Regarding events in the future, it would be fine by me if the USSF decides to issue some sort of 'season' ticket to MNT events and uses that as a factor in future WC ticketing. It would be even better if there was some magical means to give precedence to those who actually attended events (as opposed to just buying a ticket). I'm on board with the big picture that it would be cool to reward the hard core fans. If I were one, I think I'd be lobbying hard with the USSF to see if something could be done in the future.
1. How about faxing to other numbers?
2. I'm in agreement with this. However, I don't foresee as large a demand for tickets to South Africa '10, so this may be moot. Of course, we could be Cup Holders! (but would still have to qualify!) This issue could/should have been foreseen at the conclusion of WC'02 & some plans made to allocate even just a portion of the Cat 3s to die-hards. As I've said elsewhere, I'm not against new blood, I just believe that there should be some consideration for the core supporters.

[JBigjake]

How about this loyalty "test"? Answer five or more affirmative, and you get to go to the head of the tickets line ;)
I refuse to self-report my score for this test on the grounds that it may tend to incriminate me at a "soccer nerd". Even if it moves me up in line! Even almost to the front!

[NASL Fan]

Legion Field definitely counts for purposes of #9. As do games in Albuquerque, New Mex., and Richmond, Va.

And we now have an optional sub for #9: "Have you attended at least one match of a youth national team?"

And yeah, JBigJake: soccer nerd is what people wrote in my high school year book 25 years back. I've done pretty well though...

[Galaxian]

How about this loyalty "test"? Answer five or more affirmative, and you get to go to the head of the tickets line ;)

1. Have you ever crossed state lines to see the US National team play?

2. Have you ever worn a hopelessly outdated US nats replica jersey, such as the infamous candy stripes of the 94 WC?

3. Do you weep tears of nostalgic joy when you remember the first time you saw the Nats beat Mexico?

4. Can you recite, as if it were yesterday, where you were when Brian McBride headed in the third against Portugal in 2002?

5. Do you troll the internet more than five hours a week at obscure websites such as BigSoccer.com in search of news of potential or current nats playing in the English lower divisions?

6. Can you name ten current or former members of the US National team who have at one time or the other plied their trade in Germany?

7. Have you ever watched a US nats game narrated entirely in Spanish because there was no English language broadcast available?

8. Can you recite at least one malapropism uttered by Ty Keough or some other ESPN/ABC soccer color man?

9. Have you ever attended a US nats game at Cal State Fullerton's Titan Stadium or some other obscure college venue, or attended a practice?

10. Can you name at least two teams against which Jovan Kirovski scored a goal for the nats?

I score 9 out of 10.

Tickets please! ;)
8 out of ten for me . I'm only fifteen , so I dont have an old USA jersey , but in a while , the current one will be old school :D and and I can only name 5 that have played in Germany . Off the top of my head :cool: Lol is an 80% good enough for tickets ? lol cut me some slack , youve been following soccer longer than ive been alive. I guess 7 because I didnt really cry , just jumped around my house for like a week

[JoeSoccerFan]

I'm forwarding this excerpt to Amy!

Don't worry, I already called her claiming to be Mike and canceled my order. I told her that I didn't mind the surcharge! :eek: ;)





1. My soccer fix is primarily through watching DC at RFK.
1. You have my sympathy!


I guess English may not be your first language. As a metros fan, I guess you mean't "You have me envious"! :D


are you from england?
I assume you are questioning my use of "ARSEHOLE". Well, if I used **************, BS would edit it. Therefore, I'm willing to state arsehole but I've seen others use a$$hole, assh0le, asshat, a-s-s-h-o-l-e, etc. To each his own.

Alternatively, you may be stating that I must be english because I'm an arsehole. If this is your contention, I would willing to consider it. However, I believe it's possible to be an arsehole without being english. Whereas you seem to contend that all the english are arseholes. If so, please send all hatemail to Drsmoo c/o BS :D


I can only name 5 that have played in Germany .

NASLFAN thanks for giving me something to think about while I "watched" the treadmill run.

my answers below (highlight to read)

I have Donovan, Reyna, dolo, Keller, mathis, hejduk, sanneh, wynaldo, mason, wagner, berhalter, someone else that I forget now.

[NASL Fan]

Ah yes, add to your excellent list of American Nats in Germany these...

McBride, Twellman, Agoos, Joe-Max Moore, Conor Casey, Lapper, Deering, Dooley, Kirovski, Henderson, Brian Bliss, Chris Sullivan (those last two go WAY back) and Caliguiri (who was the first to make it big)

With your 11, that makes 25 so far...

[JoeSoccerFan]

Ah yes, add to your excellent list of American Nats in Germany these...

McBride, Twellman, Agoos, Joe-Max Moore, Conor Casey, Lapper, Deering, Dooley, Kirovski, Henderson, Brian Bliss, Chris Sullivan (those last two go WAY back) and Caliguiri (who was the first to make it big)

With your 11, that makes 25 so far...


yup - dang. surprised on a few of those!